Pakistan need its own attack helicopter in order to counter Indian Threat

[Luftwaffe]

Never the less its an expensive platform, a single JFT costs around 17/20 Million while its costing $60M even if i take it $40M its too costly. I think Pak should wait for the economy before jumping to the decision..

There is room for 1 new platform either Z-10 for T-129 with it comes performance and price tag.
I believe Z-10 has better performance parameters then Cobras therefore it does and can fulfill role in Pak Army.
T-129 no doubt about its performance but it is a very expensive one.

 

[khurasaan1]

Do you mean 2020 for Pakistan to get Z 10s? By that time we would have a new attack helicopter in service. Serial production is occurring now and if Pakistan wanted them we could deliver them in less than a year. Weeks if needed in an emergency.

Remember those hundreds of C 602s we delivered in an emergency?

Yes! we should go for Z-10nz assoon as possible...

 

[krash]

I would take that under one condition if SAMS could be Deployed In High Mountain Terrains, And Todays Helicopters cannot be harmed by Manpads as LCH like any other helicopter in its class has advanced Self Protection Suite like IR/Laser missile jammer,Countermeasures dispensing system etc etc... And Such Platforms Would not be used in front line Combat where SAMS could Get Lucky bringing them down...

So your saying that helis are in fact a counter measure to other helis????

 

[IndianArmy]

So your saying that helis are in fact a counter measure to other helis????

A well trained Sniper team can Bring Down a Chopper , But When its Mountain Warfare, Your Enemy Leaves You No Chance of an Escape... LCH is Made for Such Roles, Clearing the Enemy Up there to Provide Cover up for Smooth Logistics and Troop movement...Anyways You never Meet the Chopper Right up your Nose when On Battle unless it has to rattle its Machine Guns towards the enemy positions...

 

[SBD-3]

@Topic
Its not necessary to have each and everything in house, We went for JFT with in house development because it was needed in large numbers. At the moment PA is not in need for 100 200 choppers. So It would not be a wise decision to build risk venturing both time and money for a machine which is needed is 1) small numbers 2) Available at economical price and free use from other countries. Look at Japan's F-2 program, they could buy an F-16 or let LMCO develop it, but they decided to go with it themselves and we saw costs overshooting.
@ Choice
PA was interested in T-129 and perhaps had some share in development as well, (as per some discussion here on the said topic) anyways whatever it was, PA was interested in T-129. May be they would have evaluated Z-10 but in this case T-129 would have come out as winner

 

[Desert Fox]

Do you mean 2020 for Pakistan to get Z 10s? By that time we would have a new attack helicopter in service. Serial production is occurring now and if Pakistan wanted them we could deliver them in less than a year. Weeks if needed in an emergency.

Remember those hundreds of C 602s we delivered in an emergency?

maybe our armed forces are so heavily influenced by America that they'll buy anything American even if its sanction prone. I just hope we do not buy more cobras. It would be better to get 60 Z-10's because they're less costly as compared to T-129's.

 

[F-16_Falcon]

Pakistan should work with Turkey & China for the contraction of its own attack helicopter in order to counter Indian HAL Light Combat Helicopter.As you know Pakistan has a very severe lack of Attack Helicopters.We only have 20 Obselete Cobra Gunships.Those Gunships are the primary firepower that has been deployed against Taliban and Al-Qaeda Terrorists. It has worked very well but the severe shortage of these Gunships prevent them from being deployed in a more forceful way.

There are not enough attack helicopters to cover the entire rugged terrain and when our Army moves in, we suffer heavy losses.

Pakistan also require heavy lift or transport helicopters, and should be the 1st priority, as we did lack em during the earth quake crisis.

We need 100 attack helicopter to keep India at bay and fighting terrorists at the same time. We should start developing our own attack chopper. If Pakistan can develop JF-17 than we can develop our own attack chopper within 4 years.

 

[farhan_9909]

we may nt get under license production of t-129

bt we can get it for z-10 if we want them in large numbers like 100

z-10 is totally chineese made
t-129 is 50% turkish

so i would go for z-10

 

[F-16_Falcon]

we may nt get under license production of t-129

bt we can get it for z-10 if we want them in large numbers like 100

z-10 is totally chineese made
t-129 is 50% turkish

so i would go for z-10

T-129 is less than 10% turkish. its actually italian.

we should go for our own attack helicopter. no dependence on others.

 

[Manticore]

 

[ovarel]

T-129 is less than 10% turkish. its actually italian.

Tusaş is the main contractor..and the sub-contractors are Aselsan(Turkish) and Agusta-Westland.

the heli will be the developed version of A-129 with the tech-transfer from italy..and when we regard the work shares,we can see that its approximately %60 Turkish..considering the great technologic capabilities of the heli,its normal to have some european help..

i share your hopes about pakistans military independence btw.

 

[emoriphious]

good...Pakistan should buy T-129 ASAP.

 

[Manticore]

mi28 inspection???

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

mi28 inspection???

There were rumours of PA showing interest in russian choopers.......
BUT
When did this happen?

Also when PM was in turkey i heard him talk abt getting jungi helicopter from turkey.......

So i wouldnt be surprised if we get the T-129 ATAK.

Also id like PAC guys to work on a medium lift heli similiar to the bell rangers..........Start now we can do tht easily in a few years say 2014-15 at max.

 

[TheIncredible]

guys what is the latest on attack helicopters... we need um baldy by the masses.... chinese or turkish seems to be the best choise, everyone else will screw us.


note that the navy is up to date with there helis... i think they use a chinese model which is a licensed copy of the eurocopter


either way... the need is there...

repliyazzzzz pleasa

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and what the hell... we should also look into indigenous helis... we got the mind and muscle to do it... just like JF-17