Pakistan Navy's answer SM-2 for Brahmos.

[bloo]

I found this interesting


BRAHMOS hits bull's eye on the target from INS Teg :: BrahMos.com

dint know it could do that

Oh yes it can do that and much more.....

 

[Penguin]

I know i will be trolled for this,but the fact is that our 'freindly' neighbours are afraid of brahmos,especially the navies.Thats why you see these 'counter/answer to brahmos' threads popping up regularly.

Balony. You get such answer because of trying to make it sound like a Indian wunderwaffe, which is isn't. Its dangerous, but so is Oniks/Yakhont, Klub or Moskit. Also, there is a counter to every threat (and if there isn't now, one will soon be developed: this is the nature of military technology development)

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Of course therea re counters,but not in the neighbourhood,especially against salvo launches from air and sea.

 

[Viper0011.]

Of course therea re counters,but not in the neighbourhood,especially against salvo launches from air and sea.

That's an interesting assumption on your part. Hope you don't sit in Indian military's hq. Sentiments like these may cause a massive war to start that may not be stopped unless hundreds of millions of humans suffer. This region is a flashpoint.

 

[bloo]

Balony. You get such answer because of trying to make it sound like a Indian wunderwaffe, which is isn't. Its dangerous, but so is Oniks/Yakhont, Klub or Moskit. Also, there is a counter to every threat (and if there isn't now, one will soon be developed: this is the nature of military technology development)

Of course people will have to say that or their fear and monotony will kill them.
True there will always be methods of deterrence, but the fact is that "NOW" the BrahMos is a step ahead regardless of what anyone thinks.
As for tech development........
BrahMos2 has already been tested at mach 6.5

 

[IND151]

Of course people will have to say that or their fear and monotony will kill them.
True there will always be methods of deterrence, but the fact is that "NOW" the BrahMos is a step ahead regardless of what anyone thinks.
As for tech development........
BrahMos2 has already been tested at mach 6.5

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[bloo]

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Brahmos 2 Hypersonic missile production to complete by 2017 - Army Technology
Brahmos achieves Mach 6.5 speed during lab test - Indian Express
Brahmos achieves Mach 6.5 speed during test - India - IBNLive

 

[Penguin]

Of course therea re counters,but not in the neighbourhood,especially against salvo launches from air and sea.

Let me know when you are ready to be serious again.

Of course people will have to say that or their fear and monotony will kill them.
True there will always be methods of deterrence, but the fact is that "NOW" the BrahMos is a step ahead regardless of what anyone thinks.
As for tech development........
BrahMos2 has already been tested at mach 6.5

Fear and monotony? WTF?!@

 

[Penguin]

Fiscal Year 2000 activity included initial test flights for the DT at the White Sands Missile
Range. The DT consists of firing both control test vehicles (CTVs) and guidance test vehicles (GTVs). CTVs are ESSMs with inert guidance sections programmed to execute maneuver patterns. GTVs are ESSMs with guidance sections for homing on targets. The fourth CTV flight test was conducted in November 1999. The first GTV flight test was conducted as a combined CTV/GTV flight in March 2000. GTV-2 was fired at a sub-sonic target drone in July 2000. GTV-3 was fired at a supersonic target in August 2000. GTV-4 was fired at a maneuvering target drone in November 2000. GTV-5 was fired at a low altitude, close-range, sub-sonic target in December 2000.

http://www.dote.osd.mil/pub/reports/FY2000/pdf/00essm.pdf

TUCSON, Ariz., (March 27, 2002) Raytheon Evolved SEASPARROW missile intercepts supersonic target at sea

"The primary reason for developing the Evolved SEASPARROW is to defend against the modern supersonic threats. This test shows that the missile can intercept this type of anti-ship target," said Gary Hagedon, Raytheon's ESSM program director.

Raytheon Evolved SEASPARROW missile intercepts supersonic target at sea

On April 4, 2012, the Forbin Air Defense Destroyer destroyed a supersonic target simulating an antiship missile at very low altitude. The target, a GQM 163A Coyote, was launched from the French Military's Missile Test Center based on the island of Levant (French Riviera). The Forbin, head of Horizon class AAW Destroyer, intercepted the target in flight with its Aster 30 missile while Chevalier Paul, second ship of Horizon class, was tracking both the target and the missiles launched by Forbin.

French Navy's Air Warfare Destroyers successfully intercept supersonic sea-skimming target
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/actualit...e-cible-supersonique-evoluant-au-ras-de-l-eau.

France tests its ship defense with U.S. Navy’s Supersonic Sea Skimming Target

Apr 11, 2012

NAVAL AIR SYSTEMS COMMAND, PATUXENT RIVER, Md. – As part of a foreign military sales case, the U.S. Navy worked together with French military to execute France’s first aerial-target live-fire event using a GQM-163A Coyote Supersonic Sea Skimming Target (SSST), or missile, on April 4.

France’s military procurement agency Delegation Generale Pour L'Armement (DGA) worked with representatives from the Navy Aerial Target and Decoy Systems program office (PMA-208) and Orbital Sciences Corporation (OSC) of Chandler, Ariz., to provide the GQM-163A SSST for a live presentation on a military test range off the coast of France.

The foreign military sales case, which began in 2006, included procurement of one GQM-163A SSST, lease of support equipment and range integration. DGA, NAVAIR and OSC stood up the SSST launch capability on the Mediterranean island of Levant in 2011, one of only three GQM-163A launch sites worldwide.

“Such a complex test would not have been possible without the expertise and will of a whole and diverse team, made of people from NAVAIR, Point Mugu, Orbital, the U.S. Embassy in Paris, the French Navy, the French Missile test center, the French Embassy in Washington and many others,” said Col. Mathieu Fossat, assistant Defense Cooperation attaché for French naval and air systems.

During this highly technical test, a first for Europe, the target was used to simulate an anti-ship cruise missile threat whose speed and evasive maneuvers compress the amount of time a defense system has to react. Shortly after the target launched, a French air defense destroyer, Forbin, intercepted the Coyote target with an Aster 30 surface-to-air missile.

Clay Myers, PMA-208 FMS lead who witnessed last week’s launch, said he and the team received positive feedback from French representatives on site. The target was in the “green zone” for the duration of the flight, meaning it was where it was expected to be, he added.

“We are pleased the SSST presentation was useful to DGA’s evaluation effort and look forward to working with them in the future, said Capt. Dan McNamara, PMA-208 program manager. “The entire team of French and U.S. professionals who worked for the past five years to achieve this success should be congratulated.”

France tests its ship defense with U.S. Navy

 

[Penguin]

On February 21, 2008 at 3:26 am (UTC) the USS Lake Erie, a Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser, fired a single SM-3 missile, hit and successfully destroyed the satellite, with a closing velocity of about 22,783 mph (36,667 km/h) while the satellite was 247 kilometers (133 nautical miles) above the Pacific Ocean

RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Navy Hits Satellite With Heat-Seeking Missile | Space.com

mach 6 is ´only´about 7350 km/h

 

[bloo]

Fear and monotony? WTF?!@

Yes its exactly what I said.
And its not just the speed of the BrahMos that makes it unique, but also the advanced guidance system, ECCM features, advanced seeker, compatibility with real time C4I systems, intense maneuverability, various trajectories, robust AI et cetra.
So it is not just a dumb simulated target that an anti air system can simply take out, maybe a large salvo can.

FYI the intended speed of BrahMos-2 is mach-7 and will have scramjet engine.

 

[Gessler]

Balony. You get such answer because of trying to make it sound like a Indian wunderwaffe, which is isn't. Its dangerous, but so is Oniks/Yakhont, Klub or Moskit. Also, there is a counter to every threat (and if there isn't now, one will soon be developed: this is the nature of military technology development)

And the advent of a counter-measure does not nullify the effect of the weapon in question.

By the time PN possibly inducts and operationalises ESSM, you'll most probably see IN warships with
nice Mach 7 sustained speed SCRAMJET cruise missiles - most possibly difficult to detect with radar
too.

The only countries to have recieved Sea Sparrow thus far are very close in both military & economic
matters to the US. I dont think US will allow sale of ESSM to PN knowing it could lead to tech leaks into
China. Besides, US-Pak relations have not been going very nice since last couple
of years even to think US will sell such a sophisticated defence system that forms part of
the US Navy Aegis.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Arre most important question are they even getting sm-2?i have not seen a single link that definitively says so. I doubt very much coz usa knows technology will end up in chinese ships.

 

[Teeta]

And the advent of a counter-measure does not nullify the effect of the weapon in question.

By the time PN possibly inducts and operationalises ESSM, you'll most probably see IN warships with
nice Mach 7 sustained speed SCRAMJET cruise missiles - most possibly difficult to detect with radar
too.

The only countries to have recieved Sea Sparrow thus far are very close in both military & economic
matters to the US. I dont think US will allow sale of ESSM to PN knowing it could lead to tech leaks into
China. Besides, US-Pak relations have not been going very nice since last couple
of years even to think US will sell such a sophisticated defence system that forms part of
the US Navy Aegis.

Mach 7 is not scramjet speed....jus sayin

 

[bloo]

Mach 7 is not scramjet speed....jus sayin

Actually it depends on the parameters of the vehicle.
Besides BrahMos-2 will probably be a ramjet-scarmjet hybrid.