Pakistan may not buy the Chinese VT-4, but the cheaper Ukraine's T-84M or the Russian T-90S tank

[LKJ86]

Ztz or t99a2

It is called ZTZ-99A.
It is a heavy tank, and very expensive. China just has several hundreds of them.
Maybe it is not suitable for Pakistan. Does PA ask for it?

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

You got to differentiate dynamics of relationship between 12000 KM apart allies and allies that share border, benefits, potentials, possibilities and opportunities. USA could never be as helpful as a bordering country like China can be.

The only reason and the most important reason is we have common enemy india,other reason is secondary reason.
China does not own things to Pakistan,and sure Paksitan does not own things to China,it is national interests bring us together,CHina does not take Pakistani freindship as granted,i hope pakistani bros could realize it as well.
It is sad to see that a lot of people still thinks CPEC is all for good to China and nothing good to Paksitan when more than 300 000 local pakistanis has already been hired and dozens of new power generation and infrastructure projects has been built or under construction.
Yeah,China debt trap,why not,please build projects in my homeland Anhui province of China，we people from Anhui province like debt trap!!!

 

[Fawadqasim1]

The only reason and the most important reason is we have common enemy india,other reason is secondary reason.
China does not own things to Pakistan,and sure Paksitan does not own things to China,it is national interests bring us together,CHina does not take Pakistani freindship as granted,i hope pakistani bros could realize it as well.
It is said to see taht a lot of poeple still thinks CPEC is all for good to China and nothing good to Paksitan when more 300 000 local pakistanis has already been hired and dozens of new pwoer generation projects has been built or under construction.
Yeah,China debt trap,why not,please build projects in my homeland Anhui provine of China，we people from Anhui province like debt trap!!!

You are absolutely right and regarding CPEC you are responding to western propaganda.

 

[ARMalik]

The American running minion Australian is not worth to be discussed with.

How does Chinese 5G, tanks and other junk has anything to do with American running Australia? You are rumbling like a senile old man. At least post something that makes sense.

 

[LKJ86]

At least post something that makes sense.

Interesting...

Don't worry mate, in time these Chinese will line up as well like the rest. Pakistan would be able to close of CPEC trade route whenever it would want, and the Chinese wouldn't be able do a shi.t about it.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

How does Chinese 5G, tanks and other junk has anything to do with American running Australia? You are rumbling like a senile old man. At least post something that makes sense.

Becoz what you said and are saying can not be counted, what your master Americans say may be counted, so everything you say, just like Jap and S.korea and now iraq and lybia as well as Uk, are nothing but either bullshit or nonsenses.
I hope i made myself clear.

 

[帅的一匹]

i personally have no problem of Pakistan going for T90. why we shall be even borthered to care what make of tank Pakistan is going for? their country, their decision.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

Pakistani freindship as granted,i hope pakistani bros could realize it as well

We absolutely realise it and you don't know how much a common pakistani is proud of it treasures it. We need more people to people contact.. That you may know how much pakistanies value pak china friendship. Don't guage anything from this forum it can hardly be called pakistani

 

[LKJ86]

i personally have no problem of Pakistan going for T90. why we shall be even borthered to care what make of tank Pakistan is going for? their country, their decision.

Agree.

 

[帅的一匹]

one of the reason why VT4 is not cheap is becauae.the production quantity is.not big. enough to have economy of scale.

 

[LKJ86]

one of the reason why VT4 is not cheap is becauae.the production quantity is.not big. enough to have economy of scale.

In fact, VT-4 targets the mid- to high-end market.
There are VT-1, 2, 3, 4, and 5, facing different customers.

 

[帅的一匹]

but please keep.in.mind T99A IS also not cheap.

very expensive.

and you guys.should.know T90s is not same as T90A,T90s is a water down version.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

i personally have no problem of Pakistan going for T90. why we shall be even borthered to care what make of tank Pakistan is going for? their country, their decision.

t90 is just an illusion some of my countrymen very few living in western countries hallucinate from time to time the alternative is oplot m and that too an indigenously produced one

 

[Beast]

one of the reason why VT4 is not cheap is becauae.the production quantity is.not big. enough to have economy of scale.

VT-4 is expensive not becos its production quantity is small but the tech behind it. Please dont talk nonsense here and misled more pakistanis. I repeat again. VT-4 do not share much similarity with Al Khakid, MBT-2000 or Russian T-72/90. Its chasis engine layout is totally a generation ahead. Just like no matter how much you upgraded a 4th gen fighter jet with AESA or avionics. The body frame is still a 4th gen fighter.

The engine transmission, handling, maintenance and power are a generation ahead for VT-4.

 

[帅的一匹]

VT-4 is expensive not becos its production quantity is small but the tech behind it. Please dont talk nonsense here and misled more pakistanis. I repeat again. VT-4 do not share much similarity with Al Khakid, MBT-2000 or Russian T-72/90. Its chasis engine layout is totally a generation ahead. Just like no matter how much you upgraded a 4th gen fighter jet with AESA or avionics. The body frame is still a 4th gen fighter.

The engine transmission, handling, maintenance and power are a generation ahead for VT-4.

VT4 is good, but its not within Pakistan plan. you.should understsnd it. Ukraine offers lots of TOT package than we do, they are desperate for.new buyer.

pakistan is.thinking of making their own brand of tanks for export in the.near future, they need.engine and armor knowhow to make it.possible. why are are.you so stupid not.to.understand it?