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Pakistan & ISRAEL, a possibly close Relationship?

The core of debate is should Pakistan forge relations with Israel according to its independent foreign policy and strategic needs. NOT should Pakistan take sides in Arab vs Israel or sacrifice its interests in the light of proving its Arab-Brotherhood.


pakistan should not. lets not forget our history with them. they tried to bomb our nuclear sites after all. and according to some people they help destablize parts of pakistan.
 
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pakistan should not. lets not forget our history with them. they tried to bomb our nuclear sites after all. and according to some people they help destablize parts of pakistan.

According to some people is not a valid source.
The hoax of bombing nuke sites was perpetuated by Nawaz Shariff.

Ignorance is a bliss! NOT!
 
they dont even look right together. you should be ashamed of your self as a pakistani.

According to some people is not a valid source.
The hoax of bombing nuke sites was perpetuated by Nawaz Shariff.

Ignorance is a bliss! NOT!

valid source? are high rankig members of the army not a valid source? especially when they are saying it to the media?
so your saying israel wasnt planning on bombing our nuclear sites? seriously? are you sure your pakistani? cuz thats not a rumor its the real deal.
if you hate arabs and islam then why you in saudia? go back to where your from.
 
they were planning on bombing our nuclear facilities and we sent pilots to shoot down their aircrafts.....whats in the past is in the past; i genuinely dont think that israel (which is surrounded by countries that dont like it) of today would want a larger Muslim country (with nukes) as an enemy and I dont think Pakistani establishent/"deep state" etc have an interest in creating another enemy either

im sure on both sides there are ill-wishers certainly and on an official level there'd be mistrust but i dont think they are mutual enemies at present

in fact we should establish a line of contact with them; it's better to talk than to remain mute and not acknowledge eachother's reality


and that's one thing we'll have to all accept eventually....Israel isnt going anywhere (nor is Pakistan)


but these are my personal views only
 
they dont even look right together. you should be ashamed of your self as a pakistani.



valid source? are high rankig members of the army not a valid source? especially when they are saying it to the media?
so your saying israel wasnt planning on bombing our nuclear sites? seriously? are you sure your pakistani? cuz thats not a rumor its the real deal.
if you hate arabs and islam then why you in saudia? go back to where your from.


Viva le ignorance and guilt of living in "Kaffiristan" while selling religion to others.

Despite the hostilities against each other, both countries are reported to have directorates to deal with each other at an intelligence level.[1] The history of Pakistan–Israel intelligence cooperation dated back to early 1980s, when Pakistan's President and Chief of Army Staff General Zia-ul-Haq allowed ISI to established a secret directorate to deal with Israel's Mossad.[24] Intelligence offices were set up at both countries embassies located at Washington D.C. where Mossad and ISI, with CIA, ran a decade year long anti-soviet Operation, codename Operation Cyclone.[25] Under this operation, Israel proliferated soviet made weapons to Mujaheddin, and some Israeli weapons to Pakistan Army.[25]
Wikileaks, in a disclosed United States diplomatic cable, revealed that ISI had secretly passed on intelligence data to Mossad. ISI had intercepted information that Israeli civilians may be targeted in a terrorist attack in India during September and November 2008 (following the 26 November Mumbai Terror Attacks that among its targets included a Jewish centre—the Nariman House).[26] It was reported that Pakistan's Lieutenant-General Ahmad Shuja Pasha was in direct contact with Israel's Mossad.[26]
Israel and Pakistan were both allied to the United States and the western bloc during the Cold War, while India was allied to the Soviet Union's bloc. India supported the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan and supported the pro Soviet Afghan leader Mohammad Najibullah. Pakistan and Israel opposed the Soviet invasion, with Israel supplying arms to Pakistan to give to the mujahideen. Israel had captured the weapons from Palestinian groups such as the PLO, who were supplied by the Soviets.[25]
 
Viva le ignorance and guilt of living in "Kaffiristan" while selling religion to others.

Despite the hostilities against each other, both countries are reported to have directorates to deal with each other at an intelligence level.[1] The history of Pakistan–Israel intelligence cooperation dated back to early 1980s, when Pakistan's President and Chief of Army Staff General Zia-ul-Haq allowed ISI to established a secret directorate to deal with Israel's Mossad.[24] Intelligence offices were set up at both countries embassies located at Washington D.C. where Mossad and ISI, with CIA, ran a decade year long anti-soviet Operation, codename Operation Cyclone.[25] Under this operation, Israel proliferated soviet made weapons to Mujaheddin, and some Israeli weapons to Pakistan Army.[25]
Wikileaks, in a disclosed United States diplomatic cable, revealed that ISI had secretly passed on intelligence data to Mossad. ISI had intercepted information that Israeli civilians may be targeted in a terrorist attack in India during September and November 2008 (following the 26 November Mumbai Terror Attacks that among its targets included a Jewish centre—the Nariman House).[26] It was reported that Pakistan's Lieutenant-General Ahmad Shuja Pasha was in direct contact with Israel's Mossad.[26]
Israel and Pakistan were both allied to the United States and the western bloc during the Cold War, while India was allied to the Soviet Union's bloc. India supported the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan and supported the pro Soviet Afghan leader Mohammad Najibullah. Pakistan and Israel opposed the Soviet invasion, with Israel supplying arms to Pakistan to give to the mujahideen. Israel had captured the weapons from Palestinian groups such as the PLO, who were supplied by the Soviets.[25]

just get out of my face you dont know what your talking bout. idk how you 9000 thanks.
 
just get out of my face you dont know what your talking bout. idk how you 9000 thanks.

Dude, how stupid are you?

Its fact that the ISI and Mossad cooperated with each other in Op Cyclone.

There is nothing wrong with having ties with Israel. Egypt, Jordan, & Bahrain do. How come Arabs are bitching about Kashmir? Wheres the "Muslim Brotherhood"?
 
we are fine like he said. we dont need relationships thieves, crooks, evil, heartless and cowards.not to mention who use kids as human shields, bomb populated areas on purpose, tried to bomb our nuclear sites and supported a country we fought against 4 times.
which angle is india fine compared to israel?
you got cannibals in india, your farmers commit suicide by the thousands, you got hiv problem, and dont give give me that crap about how india has a middle bigger the pakistans population cuz even if you do you people living in poverty are more the n 5 times pakistans population as well.
calm down mate chill
can say anything on topic
 
Thəorətic Muslim;4058262 said:
Dude, how stupid are you?

Its fact that the ISI and Mossad cooperated with each other in Op Cyclone.

There is nothing wrong with having ties with Israel. Egypt, Jordan, & Bahrain do. How come Arabs are bitching about Kashmir? Wheres the "Muslim Brotherhood"?

i didnt say that they didnt cooperate. what i said is that that guy doesnt know what hes talking about. sure we cooperated hewre and there but in the end they attempted to do more harm to us then good. the guy said that israel never tried to bomb our sites and basically trying to say they are better to us than the arabs.

are you stupid or something kasamey? what do you want the arabs to do about kashmir? invade india or something? they build roads in our country, they give us economic aid , they funded part of our nuclear weapons program. when have they ever chosen india over pakistan?

What he posted is not inaccurate

im not denying what he copy and pasted but israel is a snake they done more harm to us then good.
 
You people what DIPLOMATIC relations that is INDIA,S 2ND BIGGEST ARMS supplier.

spy satalites, drones, awacs SAMS radars & EW suites in the Billons $$$$

The Israelis have massacred arabs and OPRESSESD your brother ******* in palastine

THEY have battered most of the BOTHER arab armies to a PULP to the point THE ENTIRE arab/islamixc WORLD WONT DARE touch ISRAEL again..

WHAT WILL PAKISTAN GAIN ?????
 
You people what DIPLOMATIC relations that is INDIA,S 2ND BIGGEST ARMS supplier.

spy satalites, drones, awacs SAMS radars & EW suites in the Billons $$$$

The Israelis have massacred arabs and OPRESSESD your brother ******* in palastine

THEY have battered most of the BOTHER arab armies to a PULP to the point THE ENTIRE arab/islamixc WORLD WONT DARE touch ISRAEL again..

WHAT WILL PAKISTAN GAIN ?????


Storm becareful with your words once again lets not go back to your old dirty habit of trolling and hating plzz do not try to troll rem what has happend to you in the past .... there is much to gain then not to gain anything small steps lead to big ones only a dummie will always stay a enemy while a senseable person will try to offer a hand shake they have np with us nor we with them leave india out of it this is about for once this thread is Pakistan and Israel. We need relations if not anything more so lets leave it at that and hope and pray that both hands will skake in the near future we are all GOD's children and if you don't like peace in general then keep it to your self .
 
Israel is an enemy to all muslims and jews are snakes, when the muslim population of the holy land grows help them, degrade israel bit by bit
 
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