Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Donatello]

ohh man why should we move them in first place? its not only planes but many other things also be moved to weapons equipments ground crew and so much they are doing best at shahbaz . i agree with you as we seen flood times we move them to Samungli. or they were laned at Samungli before arrived to shahbaz . let these 18 stay at shahbaz man whats the issue here ? we agree in terms of US because we got so many nice things with these 18 like sniper pods DB-110 amraams JHMS GBUs JDAMs APG-68(V)9 radars CFTs new mavricks and USA take care of these items to fall in chines hands as they know well our relations with china .


New F-16 Block 52s Moved to Samungli Air Base Near Quetta


Three of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF)’s newest acquisitions Block 52 F-16 jet fighters – previously stationed at the Shahbaz airbase near Jacobabad – have been moved to the Samungli airbase near Quetta, sources told The Express Tribune on Saturday. The Shahbaz base was under the threat of being flooded in August. The exact date on which the jets were flown to Quetta could not be ascertained.However, an official said that the jets will be moved back to the Shahbaz airbase as soon the flood situation improves.The report said that some members of the technical support team from the Lockheed Martin (the aircraft manufacturer and other officials of the US Air Force, had left the Shahbaz airbase for Quetta, but other members are still there.

Over 22 water lifting pumps are dumping back the floodwaters from the canal back into the Indus River. The base is safe and secure because of this extraordinary safety plan, built with the financial and technical assistance of the US at a cost of millions of dollars.The fleet of F-16 aircraft arrived in June at the newly-upgraded base, which is under the PAF’s Southern Air Command. Earlier, the base, was being used as a Forward Operating Base by the PAF, but very recently it has been upgraded to house the new F-16 aircraft by installing equipment and radar system.
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New F-16s moved to air base near Quetta – The Express Tribune

Imran Saheb......what i said...you just worded it differently....kya baat hai apki!

Too much free time?

 

[Imran Khan]

Imran Saheb......what i said...you just worded it differently....kya baat hai apki!

Too much free time?

did i worded it wrong ? abut time yes i have these days .

 

[fatman17]

Quote of the Day

“Never fly the 'A' model of anything.”
-- Layton A. Bennett

 

[Last Hope]

Quote of the Day

“Never fly the 'A' model of anything.”
-- Layton A. Bennett

Fly the 'C'

 

[araz]

Fly the 'C'

the goss is that the guys prefer the MLUed As better than the Cs.
araz

 

[regular]

the goss is that the guys prefer the MLUed As better than the Cs.
araz

I like D's better than C's or the E's are the best ones....

 

[soul hacker]

the goss is that the guys prefer the MLUed As better than the Cs.
araz

why the prefer mlu?

 

[soul hacker]

chek out our baby @0:18 and 2:00

 

[Last Hope]

 

[araz]

why the prefer mlu?

The agility of As associated with the radar and other goodies similar to Cs. The best of both worlds!!
Araz

 

[Windjammer]

The agility of As associated with the radar and other goodies similar to Cs. The best of both worlds!!
Araz

Also the cost effectiveness, upgrading an A model to C standard is better on pocket than purchasing the latter. Also the experience gained becomes valuable for future prospects.

 

[SQ8]

Also the cost effectiveness, upgrading an A model to C standard is better on pocket than purchasing the latter. Also the experience gained becomes valuable for future prospects.

I would say Yes and No.
Upgrading an A to C offers a very cost effective way to turn a somewhat dated aircraft into a potent machine. But the C models offer more than just avionics .. They have some redesign built into them that allows for the accomodation of some avionics internally.
For eg.. the Pakistani Block -52's will be carrying the ITT Jammer internally whilst the AM's will have to varry it in a pod.
The Block-52's offer greater range, built in modular upgrade.. etc

However.. this does not take away the effectiveness of the MLU at all.
It has given Pakistan some 60 VERY capable 4++ gen aircraft.

 

[Windjammer]

I would say Yes and No.
Upgrading an A to C offers a very cost effective way to turn a somewhat dated aircraft into a potent machine. But the C models offer more than just avionics .. They have some redesign built into them that allows for the accomodation of some avionics internally.
For eg.. the Pakistani Block -52's will be carrying the ITT Jammer internally whilst the AM's will have to varry it in a pod.
The Block-52's offer greater range, built in modular upgrade.. etc

However.. this does not take away the effectiveness of the MLU at all.
It has given Pakistan some 60 VERY capable 4++ gen aircraft.

And obviously the D model with raised spine filled with hi-tech gadgets is a different ball game.

 

[regular]

I guess the last version of F-16V is the best one offered to date by the Lockheed martin.If we get some of them will be the best for the PAF........
http://www.gizmag.com/lockheed-martin-f-16v/21482/

 

[Last Hope]

I guess the last version of F-16V is the best one offered to date by the Lockheed martin.If we get some of them will be the best for the PAF........
Lockheed Martin unveils latest version of F-16 Fighting Falcon

No it will be more damage than beneficial. The price per unit is higher than Block 52+ and the operational, maintenance costs are going to be high too. Pilot re-training would be needed and PAF has only two L-3 simulators.

This is also a US aircraft and it is better if we do not have all of our ADA using US hardware. Anyways, PAF has option of acquiring more F-16s, Block 52+, the option is still valid and open for 37 more F-16s.