Pakistan cautions India against ‘two front’ situation

[Joe Shearer]

Nops, there is an intrinsic hatred against India and it is independent of Kashmir. Its so visible on PDF.
If Kashmir issue will be solved then there will be another issue created.
Any ways I hope Pakistani political class realizes that propping up Burhan Wani doesnt save your chair.
Look at anti Indian statements by Pakistani establishment 1) Money given to kill a terrorist. 2) Money given to destablize CPEC 3) Two front situation being attempted etc., this is like an enemy is being created by the Pakistani Establishment i.e. India.

Suppose we put it to the test?

Dill pe mat le yaar,

Pakistan oks that his wife can meet him last time, send bhabhi G.

Sorry, my wife will visit only me, when you refuse to let me go home.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Sorry, my wife will visit only me, when you refuse to let me go home.

I am talking about Hussien Mubarak Patel aka Kulbushan's wife.

 

[Joe Shearer]

sab Maya hay...

https://twitter.com/x/status/713354851367854081

Iranian resident permit on Fake passport made in Islamabad ...India can simple ask Iran to validate this visa stamp ? itna mushkal be nai to expose notorious ISI aka human smugglers who bribe some one to kidnap him from Iran

You mean you can't get an Iranian visa stamp illegally? Wow. Tough guys, these Iranians.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/five-bullet-riddled-bodies-found-in-turbat.529125/#post-10024887

once Indian terrorisst are all killed in Afghanistan, we will talk in another language very soon.
talk without Kashmir issue are not acceptable to us.

India started policy of terrorism in its neighbor countries in 70s by supporting terrorists in east Pakistan and later accepting all those terrorism.

Your usual ignorance in full peacock display.

Look up the role of Pakistan in supporting Mizos earlier than the 70s. The Pakistani record for this is in Brigadier Z. A. Khan's book, The Way It Was. There are also the reports of neutral observers, on record.

I am talking about Hussien Mubarak Patel aka Kulbushan's wife.

One never knows with you good people, chief; what are normal laws and normal diplomatic relations among other people become very hazy where you are concerned.

 

[Ace of Spades]

WTF. What do I care?

I won't answer questions on these individual perceptions. You are free to agree or to disagree, or even to lecture each other on some point arising out of this; just leave me out of it.

I thought you are gonna give some clues about some mysterious secret behind Kashmir uprising that you can discuss only among closed knitted circuits. Anyhow; fair enough, i can see that you don't care. Will not tag you, in search for your superior knowledge.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Would the Pakistani gentlemen reading this thread agree to a simple test?

I thought you are gonna give some clues about some mysterious secret behind Kashmir uprising that you can discuss only among closed knitted circuits. Anyhow; fair enough, i can see that you don't care. Will not tag you, in search for your superior knowledge.

As far as inner secrets are concerned, nothing is a secret in Kashmir. Who is getting paid off is clear to everyone; you just have to look for the guest-houses and tourist hotels, and trace back their ownership. The humblest, most devout separatists have the largest, newest hotels. Everyone knows everything.

Incidentally, everyone is paid off, the organised political parties by India alone, the separatists by India and by the 'others', they being much better off. Stone pelters have standard rates; these are distributed by government servants, for one very simple reason. Unlike others, they won't lose their jobs due to absence from their desks.

About the unrest, 90% is due to the incredible mismanagement of the bureaucrats in Delhi, who like to play god. And to their political bosses, who like to play Hugh Hefner.

You hint at secret deals. Those bits are not going to happen. GoI has chosen the wrong person, and he is not acceptable to anyone.

 

[H!TchHiker]

You mean you can't get an Iranian visa stamp illegally? Wow. Tough guys, these Iranians.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/five-bullet-riddled-bodies-found-in-turbat.529125/#post-10024887

I mean to say that GOI can ask Iranian government to validate this ? There official stance will put Pakistan in miserable situation if Iran declared this visa is faked or not stamped in Iran on Mubarak hussain Fake passport..Silence of Indian government vis a vis Iran is definitely suspicious..

 

[litman]

Once Kashmir issue is Solved , there wont be any need for War .

kashmir problem is never going to be solved. UN cant force india and they dont want either. US which is the boss of UN needs india in afhanistan and to counter china so they will extend full support to india. pak cant get kashmir through force. so the only option left is that both countries should accept the LOC as the international border. pak and india will never agree on making IOK, AK, GB as a separate state. accepting LOC as the border is the only option left which can bring peace in the region but pak wont agree to it. peace in IOK means india will fully concentrate on creating trouble in pakistan through afghanistan. so kashmir has no solution.

 

[Joe Shearer]

kashmir problem is never going to be solved. UN cant force india and they dont want either. US which is the boss of UN needs india in afhanistan and to counter china so they will extend full support to india. pak cant get kashmir through force. so the only option left is that both countries should accept the LOC as the international border. pak and india will never agree on making IOK, AK, GB as a separate state. accepting LOC as the border is the only option left which can bring peace in the region but pak wont agree to it. peace in IOK means india will fully concentrate on creating trouble in pakistan through afghanistan. so kashmir has no solution.

Peace in Jammu and Kashmir means we can go peaceably about our business and don't need to worry about terrorism in India. That will put Indo-Pakistan relations on a permanently peaceful footing, and yield a massive peace dividend, much more for Pakistan than for India.

 

[Ace of Spades]

Would the Pakistani gentlemen reading this thread agree to a simple test?



As far as inner secrets are concerned, nothing is a secret in Kashmir. Who is getting paid off is clear to everyone; you just have to look for the guest-houses and tourist hotels, and trace back their ownership. The humblest, most devout separatists have the largest, newest hotels. Everyone knows everything.

Incidentally, everyone is paid off, the organised political parties by India alone, the separatists by India and by the 'others', they being much better off. Stone pelters have standard rates; these are distributed by government servants, for one very simple reason. Unlike others, they won't lose their jobs due to absence from their desks.

About the unrest, 90% is due to the incredible mismanagement of the bureaucrats in Delhi, who like to play god. And to their political bosses, who like to play Hugh Hefner.

You hint at secret deals. Those bits are not going to happen. GoI has chosen the wrong person, and he is not acceptable to anyone.

As per your argument; stone pelters take money to get shot in the eyes by pallet guns by the same establishment who tells them to pelt stones in the first place. Interesting....

And this must be in common knowledge of Indian army officials as well, so instead of going after those bureaucrats, they choose to do the opposite. More interesting....

So much for the flashing breaking news on Indian channels and today's top stories on how ISI fund stone pelters and how ISI is behind every problem in India. Atleast we are getting somewhere...

 

[litman]

Peace in Jammu and Kashmir means we can go peaceably about our business and don't need to worry about terrorism in India. That will put Indo-Pakistan relations on a permanently peaceful footing, and yield a massive peace dividend, much more for Pakistan than for India.

yes peace in kashmir can benefit both countries but both countries need to stop interfering in internal security of each other. unfortunately RAW is not ready to understand this.

 

[Joe Shearer]

As per your argument; stone pelters take money to get shot in the eyes by pallet guns by the same establishment who tells them to pelt stones in the first place. Interesting....

1. Nobody thinks they will get injured.
2. People who get injured are a small fraction of a mob. Everybody is sure that it won't happen to him.
3. Stone pelters get paid through the separatists; how are they getting shot by the same establishment? You aren't making sense.

And this must be in common knowledge of Indian army officials as well, so instead to going after those bureaucrats they choose to do the opposite. More interesting....

That is the business of the civilian government. This is not military law.

So much for the flashing breaking news on Indian channels and today's top stories on how ISI fund stone pelters and how ISI is behind every problem in India. Atleast we are getting somewhere...

What is contradictory about this? Who do you think sends the subsidy money in?

yes peace in kashmir can benefit both countries but both countries need to stop interfering in internal security of each other. unfortunately RAW is not ready to understand this.

RAW is a reaction.

Is the ISI ready to stop interfering? Trace back the history and record of interference, and take into account the three periods when the Indian intelligence services were asked to wind up their intelligence gathering. What is left?

 

[El Sidd]

I thought it was a 2.5 front.

Anyhow nice to see Pakistan giving major warnings that things will quickly get out of hands if India continues to tread these murky waters of warfare ambitions.

 

[Gurjot.S]

I thought it was a 2.5 front.

Anyhow nice to see Pakistan giving major warnings that things will quickly get out of hands if India continues to tread these murky waters of warfare ambitions.

What out of hands ? Giving warnings of nukes ?

Pakistan has nothing which can bring situation out of hands other than warning of nukes etc.

 

[El Sidd]

What out of hands ? Giving warnings of nukes ?

Pakistan has nothing which can bring situation out of hands other than warning of nukes etc.

We have a declared first use policy of deterrence.

 

[Gurjot.S]

We have a declared first use policy of deterrence.

We too have but undeclared. No body here will wait for pakistan firing nukes on us.
btw, there is a reason why U.S is sitting in A-stan.