Pakistan can't afford to have bullet trains: Railway minister

[4GTejasBVR]

lmao.
indian railway, joke of the world.....
And i guess your name including the hilarious joke "tejas" can show what kind of level it is.

China and Chinese never failed to amaze me. What ever they build becomes best of the best of the best of the best in the world.

 

[AndrewJin]

China and Chinese never failed to amaze me. What ever they build becomes best of the best of the best of the best in the world.

LMAO, a train accident on a 120km/h line in indian words is HSR.....

There was a huge accident in India last week, killing 140+ people, I guess, that speed according to indians is semi-HSR.

LMAO

 

[4GTejasBVR]

Comparative Rail Safety

Good news, the monthly derailed indian trains are safer than weekly derailed murico trains.

LOL



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Chinese laborers work at the construction site of the third largest mosque in Algiers, and the largest in Africa, in 2016. The Djamaa El Djazair mosque was built as part of a complex that includes a one-million-book library, a Koranic school, and a museum of Islamic art and history.

China’s Undeserved Reputation for Building Bad Infrastructure in Africa
A China in Africa Podcast

• by Eric Olander, Cobus van Staden, Jamie Farrell
• August 17, 2016

The Chinese build more infrastructure than any other country (foreign or African) in Africa. Chinese banks are financing billions of dollars in new loans, aid packages, and other deals to build badly-needed infrastructure across the continent, and Chinese companies are doing most of the engineering and construction work. Between 2009 and 2014, the Chinese signed $328 billion in construction projects in Africa, an average of $54 billion a year, according to data from the international law firm Baker and McKenzie. This trend is widely expected to continue as Beijing turns to its new development bank, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), to focus more of its economic diplomacy around the world on building infrastructure.

Even though the Chinese are making an enormous contribution to Africa’s infrastructure development, there is a still a pervasive misperception that Chinese-built roads, bridges, and other construction projects are of poor quality. Media reports of Chinese-made roads that quickly fall apart in Ethiopia or hospitals built by Chinese contractors in Angola that never opened due to cracks, have come to dominate many peoples’ perceptions of the quality of work performed by the Chinese.



Infographics
06.30.16

Visualizing China’s Aid to Africa
Eva Constantaras
New research, though, demonstrates that those anecdotes do not reflect the reality about the building quality and reliability of Chinese construction work in Africa. Jamie Farrell, a Master’s candidate at Johns Hopkins University in the United States, researched how Chinese contractors, compared to those from OECD countries, performed in World Bank contracts in Africa.

The World Bank is probably one of the best sources for information to do this kind of comparison, given that China now wins more construction contracts from the Bank than any other country in the world. In fact, between 2007 and 2015, Chinese companies won almost a third of all World Bank infrastructure projects in Africa. So there is a lot of data to work with to compare both Chinese and OECD countries’ performance.

Jamie joins Eric and Cobus to discuss why the Chinese continue to have such a bad reputation for the quality of their infrastructure development work in Africa despite the fact that the data proves otherwise.

 

[AndrewJin]

LOL



(AFP/Getty Images)
Chinese laborers work at the construction site of the third largest mosque in Algiers, and the largest in Africa, in 2016. The Djamaa El Djazair mosque was built as part of a complex that includes a one-million-book library, a Koranic school, and a museum of Islamic art and history.

China’s Undeserved Reputation for Building Bad Infrastructure in Africa
A China in Africa Podcast

• by Eric Olander, Cobus van Staden, Jamie Farrell
• August 17, 2016

The Chinese build more infrastructure than any other country (foreign or African) in Africa. Chinese banks are financing billions of dollars in new loans, aid packages, and other deals to build badly-needed infrastructure across the continent, and Chinese companies are doing most of the engineering and construction work. Between 2009 and 2014, the Chinese signed $328 billion in construction projects in Africa, an average of $54 billion a year, according to data from the international law firm Baker and McKenzie. This trend is widely expected to continue as Beijing turns to its new development bank, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), to focus more of its economic diplomacy around the world on building infrastructure.

Even though the Chinese are making an enormous contribution to Africa’s infrastructure development, there is a still a pervasive misperception that Chinese-built roads, bridges, and other construction projects are of poor quality. Media reports of Chinese-made roads that quickly fall apart in Ethiopia or hospitals built by Chinese contractors in Angola that never opened due to cracks, have come to dominate many peoples’ perceptions of the quality of work performed by the Chinese.



Infographics
06.30.16

Visualizing China’s Aid to Africa
Eva Constantaras
New research, though, demonstrates that those anecdotes do not reflect the reality about the building quality and reliability of Chinese construction work in Africa. Jamie Farrell, a Master’s candidate at Johns Hopkins University in the United States, researched how Chinese contractors, compared to those from OECD countries, performed in World Bank contracts in Africa.

The World Bank is probably one of the best sources for information to do this kind of comparison, given that China now wins more construction contracts from the Bank than any other country in the world. In fact, between 2007 and 2015, Chinese companies won almost a third of all World Bank infrastructure projects in Africa. So there is a lot of data to work with to compare both Chinese and OECD countries’ performance.

Jamie joins Eric and Cobus to discuss why the Chinese continue to have such a bad reputation for the quality of their infrastructure development work in Africa despite the fact that the data proves otherwise.

Even african trains are safer than hindu trains

indian per capita GDP is smaller than SUB SARAHA AFRICA

2015[edit]

• 13 February 2015 - 12677 Bangalore City - Ernakulam Intercity Express derailed near Anekal town at 7.35 am. Initial reports suggested a boulder may have fallen on the track. D-7 and D-8 general compartment coaches were th worsted. 12 dead and 100 injuries occurred.[97]
• 1 March 2015 - 12617 Ernakulam - Hazrat Nizamuddin Mangala Lakshadweep Express derails near Pen station of Maharashtra; no one is injured.[98]
• 20 March 2015 – 58 dead, 150 people injured as Dehradun-Varanasi Janta Express derails in Uttar Pradesh's Rae Bareli.[99]
• 3 May 2015- 10 bogies of 12223 Mumbai Lokmanya Tilak Terminus-Ernakulam Junction Duronto Express derailed near Balli railway station in South Goa at around 6.30 AM. No casualties.[100]
• 25 May 2015- Muri Express derails in Uttar Pradesh leaving 4 people dead and more than 50 injured.[101]
• 4 August 2015- 11071 Mumbai Lokmanya Tilak Terminus-Varanasi Junction Kamayani Express derails in Madhya Pradesh, bogies fell into Machak river after flash floods dislodged a culvert near Machak river causing rail misalignment; The accident took place between Kurawan and Bhiringi railway stations (in Harda District on the Khandwa-Itarsi Line,approx.100 km from Itarsi Junction.[102] 13201 Patna Rajendra Nagar Terminal-Mumbai Lokmanya Tilak Terminus Janata Express also derailed at the same spot.[103]
• 12 September 2015 - 9 coaches (7 AC coaches, 1 Pantry Car and 1 Brake Van) of 12220 Secunderabad Junction-Mumbai Lokmanya Tilak Terminus Duronto Express derailed at Martur railway station, around 20 km from Kalaburagi town in Karnataka killing at least 2 women and injuring 7 others.[104]
• 12 September 2015 - 3 coaches of a chartered Kalka-Shimla Shivalik Queen (toy train), derailed near Taksal in Himachal Pradesh killing 2 Britons and injuring 13 more British nationals. The train was boarded by a party of 36 customers and a tour operator, all from Britain.[105] The Kalka-Shimla Railway, a part of the Mountain Railways of India is being enlisted as a UNESCO World Heritage Site since 2008.
• 15 September 2015 - 7 coaches of 90398 Virar-Churchgate Semi Fast Local derailed between Andheri and Vile Parle railway stations. However, no casualties were reported despite the mishap occurring in the peak hour, at around 11 AM.[106]
• 19 September 2015 - Sealdah—Rampurhat Passenger was derailed near Barddhaman Junction railway station. No injury is reported.[107][108]

 

[4GTejasBVR]

LMAO, a train accident on a 120km/h line in indian words is HSR.....

There was a huge accident in India last week, killing 140+ people, I guess, that speed according to indians is semi-HSR.

LMAO

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[AndrewJin]

2016[edit]

• 05 February 2016 - 4 coaches of Kanyakumari-Bangalore City Express derailed near Vellore. Few injured.[109]
• 01 May 2016 - Old Delhi-Faizabad Express derailed near Hapur. No casualities were reported[110]
• 06 May 2016 - Side collision for the Chennai Central - Thiruvananthapuram Central superfast and a suburban train near Pattabiram. Seven Injured [111]
• 19 May 2016 - Kanyakumari-Dibrugrah Vivek Express derailed near Nagercoil. No casualities were reported[112]
• 28 August 2016 - 12 coaches of Train number 16347 Thiruvananthapuram Central - Mangalore Central Express derailed near Karukutty Station, Angamali around 2:20 am. No casualties.[113]
• 20 November 2016 - 14 coaches of the Indore-Rajendra Nagar Express 19321 derailed at Pukhrayan, approximately 60 kilometers from Kanpur. At least 150 deaths and 260 injuries have been reported in Pukhrayan train accident.[114][115][116]

LMAO

THIS IS 2016
Stop living in history.
Get your deadly railway system fixed first

A whopping 25,722 passengers fell from suburban trains (travelling on Western, Central and Harbour suburban services in Mumbai Commissionerate) in last 10 years, of whom 6,989 commuters died while 18,733 survived, said RTI activist Anis Khan quoting a reply received from Government Railway Police (GRP), Mumbai.

 

[4GTejasBVR]

Even african trains are safer than hindu trains

indian per capita GDP is smaller than SUB SARAHA AFRICA

2015[edit]

• 13 February 2015 - 12677 Bangalore City - Ernakulam Intercity Express derailed near Anekal town at 7.35 am. Initial reports suggested a boulder may have fallen on the track. D-7 and D-8 general compartment coaches were th worsted. 12 dead and 100 injuries occurred.[97]
• 1 March 2015 - 12617 Ernakulam - Hazrat Nizamuddin Mangala Lakshadweep Express derails near Pen station of Maharashtra; no one is injured.[98]
• 20 March 2015 – 58 dead, 150 people injured as Dehradun-Varanasi Janta Express derails in Uttar Pradesh's Rae Bareli.[99]
• 3 May 2015- 10 bogies of 12223 Mumbai Lokmanya Tilak Terminus-Ernakulam Junction Duronto Express derailed near Balli railway station in South Goa at around 6.30 AM. No casualties.[100]
• 25 May 2015- Muri Express derails in Uttar Pradesh leaving 4 people dead and more than 50 injured.[101]
• 4 August 2015- 11071 Mumbai Lokmanya Tilak Terminus-Varanasi Junction Kamayani Express derails in Madhya Pradesh, bogies fell into Machak river after flash floods dislodged a culvert near Machak river causing rail misalignment; The accident took place between Kurawan and Bhiringi railway stations (in Harda District on the Khandwa-Itarsi Line,approx.100 km from Itarsi Junction.[102] 13201 Patna Rajendra Nagar Terminal-Mumbai Lokmanya Tilak Terminus Janata Express also derailed at the same spot.[103]
• 12 September 2015 - 9 coaches (7 AC coaches, 1 Pantry Car and 1 Brake Van) of 12220 Secunderabad Junction-Mumbai Lokmanya Tilak Terminus Duronto Express derailed at Martur railway station, around 20 km from Kalaburagi town in Karnataka killing at least 2 women and injuring 7 others.[104]
• 12 September 2015 - 3 coaches of a chartered Kalka-Shimla Shivalik Queen (toy train), derailed near Taksal in Himachal Pradesh killing 2 Britons and injuring 13 more British nationals. The train was boarded by a party of 36 customers and a tour operator, all from Britain.[105] The Kalka-Shimla Railway, a part of the Mountain Railways of India is being enlisted as a UNESCO World Heritage Site since 2008.
• 15 September 2015 - 7 coaches of 90398 Virar-Churchgate Semi Fast Local derailed between Andheri and Vile Parle railway stations. However, no casualties were reported despite the mishap occurring in the peak hour, at around 11 AM.[106]
• 19 September 2015 - Sealdah—Rampurhat Passenger was derailed near Barddhaman Junction railway station. No injury is reported.[107][108]

Hahahahaha A multi Billion dollars site . Wonder how cheep buildings of China? What ever glitter is not gold u Chinese friend

 

[AndrewJin]

wow, Moooombai, a supa powa city, railway fatality is bigger than the REST OF THE WORLD
How do they dare to laugh at others?
lmao

 

[Kaniska]

No offense. Many Chinese joked the only hope of Islam world are Pakistan and Iran. They seems understand what industrialization is.
I just think Pakistan is densely populated, if they can manage to continue to improve the life standard of general people, get them well-educated, like 9 years of compulsive education, then why not?

Pakistan as a country and in specific people are as hard working, good, emotional and religious like other Muslims nations. Credit must be given to the people for their desire to strive for the best in spite of being used and by super powers in many directions. And the good thing is that at least they found a good friend like China who suggest the best possible thing for Pakistan rather than always looking for benifit.

To be honest, Bullet train is just a luxury for South Asian nations. If we could build a good quality and safe regular Railway tracks that are faster than the regular speed, thet will suit to the public of South Asian nations. Our politicians always use bullet train as a sign of prosperity and fool the public. It might be needed in certain segments but rather than spending such huge sum of money in Bullet train, investment in regular train can provide better results.

 

[AndrewJin]

A RSSer coming from a country with PER CAPITA GDP less than Sub-Sahara Africa
laughing at africans....
wow....
Unbelievable.

it might be a big achievement for india to have more railway accidents than USA.
But laughing at Sub-Sahara-Africa and other South Asian countries is a total joke for these ill-education RSSers.

 

[Wen Ling]

Pakistan as a country and in specific people are as hard working, good, emotional and religious like other Muslims nations. Credit must be given to the people for their desire to strive for the best in spite of being used and by super powers in many directions. And the good thing is that at least they found a good friend like China who suggest the best possible thing for Pakistan rather than always looking for benifit.

To be honest, Bullet train is just a luxury for South Asian nations. If we could build a good quality and safe regular Railway tracks that are faster than the regular speed, thet will suit to the public of South Asian nations. Our politicians always use bullet train as a sign of prosperity and fool the public. It might be needed in certain segments but rather than spending such huge sum of money in Bullet train, investment in regular train can provide better results.

I think my suggestion can also apply to India in the near future. right now both countries should just improve their current train system gradually, and the central governments need put money inside.

 

[Kaniska]

A RSSer coming from a country with PER CAPITA GDP less than Sub-Sahara Africa
laughing at africans....
wow....
Unbelievable.

Wow, you are an elite member and having more than 10000 posts to your credit. Seems unbelievable by looking at your certain racist response in this thread. Good going mate.

 

[AndrewJin]

Wow, you are an elite member and having more than 10000 posts to your credit. Seems unbelievable by looking at your certain racist response in this thread. Good going mate.

Since when pointing out the absurdity of some RSSers who laugh at Pakistan is racist?

It is your fellow RSSer that brought in Indian railway in this thread first.....

How come I become a racist by correcting such nonsense?

 

[Kaniska]

I think my suggestion can also apply to India in the near future. right now both countries should just improve their current train system gradually, and the central governments need put money inside.

Of course, that is why i have referred as South Asian nation.

Since when pointing out the absurdity of some RSSers who laugh at Pakistan is racist?

It is your fellow RSSer that brought in Indian railway in this thread first.....

How come I become a racist by correcting such nonsense?

Its fine mate, if you would like to be like a troll to respond to some idiotic troll from my nation, it is your choice. But you have to recognize fact that trolls exists across all nationalities including Pakistan and Chines who use multiple racist words for Indians in this forum. No one is sane across the common nationalities in this forum.It is just a matter of choice how one should consider to respond to another one.

 

[AndrewJin]

Railways in Pakistan from my perspective should be of mixed use, both freight and passenger.
Passenger-dedicated railways are feasible mostly when the conventional railway is saturated....
The better choice I think is 160-200km/h.
But HSRs in the future should be phased out.

Of course, that is why i have referred as South Asian nation.



Its fine mate, if you would like to be like a troll to respond to some idiotic troll from my nation, it is your choice. But you have to recognize fact that trolls exists across all nationalities including Pakistan and Chines who use multiple racist words for Indians in this forum. No one is sane across the common nationalities in this forum.It is just a matter of choice how one should consider to respond to another one.

You can call me a troll in some of my comments in this thread in response to irrelevant trolling initiated by some Indian members. But I am not a racist!