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PAA needs a dedicated strike aircraft on the lines of A-10 , SU-25 etc that can relieve PAF from carrying the burden of not only giving air cover to PA but also performing air interdiction missions.

Considering the aircrafts already operated by PAF and slated for retirement are F-7 and Mirage III/V.

A-5 was a great choice, it was very cheap to procure and maintenance cost was low. It had 10 hard points and could carry a variety of air to ground ordnance including guided, unguided etc bombs. Infact PAF also used it for A2A CAP's. Retired and out of service, it might be a cumbersome task to bring its support and maintenance system back to life.

The light trainers K-8 and MFI-17 cannot carry enough ordnance to strike the enemy targets and their ecm and avionics is basic level. However, as last resort, they can have pylons added to them to carry A2G ordnance.

Mirages III/V are even older than F-7 though they are more potent and effective than F-7, even Non-ROSE ones. Most of Mirages acquired in the last batch were attained to be cannabalized for parts which means that apart from ROSE modified, the other mirages have almost non existent life on their air frames. PAF wanted to convert more Mirages to ROSE standards but changed decision due to over bearing cost and importantly coz of old ageing air frames. Retired Non-Rose Mirages can spark more crashes than sortie rates. On the other hand, PAF might need them for parts to keep ROSE squadrons airworthy for next many years.

PAF may not let go of F-7 PG quickly. It has an upgraded radar and its performance at high altitude is good.

The F-7P replaced by JF-17 can be the choice of aircraft for PAA for ground strike missions. SLAF and BAF have used them as ground strike aircraft with different munitions. BAF has also modified F-7 by increasing its hard points from 5 to 7.

F-7P already has the support and maintenance infrastructure available for operations. There are 100+ F-7P in PAF service. Even if a 12-18 aircrafts squadron is given to the three commands of PA: Northern,Central and Southern, 50 odd aircrafts would be required.

The AGM-65 maverick in PAF service is used by F-16's, though its an under utilization for it. F-16 in PAF has many other significant roles.

If this weapon is integrated with Grifo radar of F-7P and used by PAA , having a range of around of 20km can be used effectively to hit enemy tanks, Mobile SAM's, Ammo and Fuel dumps, C4I and other command centres, important bridges etc.
Originally a TV guided missile but in later variants the resolution has been enhanced so pilots dont need to get really close to target to fire it as some versions are IR and laser homing targetting.It can be used with LANTRIN and even Altis pod on PAF F-16's.
C-704 is considered the chinese equivalent of AGM-65, although C-704 is an anti-ship missile.

F-7 has basic 2 X 30mm cannons. Non guided 500kg bombs or Mk82 bombs may also be used. BAF uses cluster, anti runway and PGM bombs.
It can already carry Aim-9 A2A missile.

Though the loiter time is less but if it can show up in time of need, engage, strike and turn away, its a bang for buck.

With the induction of a dedicated strike aircraft in PAA, the distress calls for air cover as well as air support by PA can be met easily without hampering PAF ops.
For strike roles JH-7 B can be good option or SU-34 or J-16
 
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For strike roles JH-7 B can be good option or SU-34 or J-16

A selam,

He knows that better than you, but he try to post realistic ideas, tactics and strategies ! Which our national Budge can pay and not what PDF posters wishes ! I think you should join Pakistan Rangers, Army or Punjab Elite Forces ! I would love to see you one day in a Pakistrani Force Uniform, you could become a good leader of a unit, build up and maintenance our Bunkers and posts near the Afghan Border and send us in PDF some pictures from the frontline ;)
 
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I was expecting delivery of those helos in 2018 but as Fatman mentioned, if they are entering in to PAA in 2017, will be a good news.
 
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PL-90


PL-90 is one of the smallest and lightest AAMs in the world developed specifically for helicopter self-defence against enemy helicopters and slow moving fixed-wing aircraft. A total of 8 PL-90s were seen carried by Z-9WA/WZ attack helicopter. Its length is 1,862mm, diameter 90mm, weight 20kg, warhead 3kg, range 500-6,000m, engage altitude 0-6,000m, max speed 2 Mach, max load 20g. It features a dual-band IR seeker with a good IRCCM property, giving the missile an all-aspect engage capability. It also features a laser proximity fuse as well. PL-90 appears to have been derived from shoulder-launched QW-1/2 SAM which is comparable to the American Stinger missile. Its export version was first revealed at the 1998 Zhuhai Airshow as TY-90. PL-90 entered the service with PLA Army Aviation in 2006. The missile can be carried by Z-9W/WA/WZ, Mi-17/Mi-171, Z-10 and Z-19. However PL-90 has still yet to prove its effectiveness in real combat due to its small size.
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Lockheed Martin to provide Pakistan with Target Sight Systems
By Ryan Maass | Jan. 19, 2016 at 12:48 PM


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Lockheed Martin's Target Sight System provides target identification and tracking information for the AH-1Z Cobra attack helicopter. Photo by Lockheed Martin


WASHINGTON, Jan. 19 (UPI) -- Lockheed Martin has received a $14 million contract to provide Target Sight Systems for Pakistan's AH-1Z attack helicopters.

The contract includes software development and testing, system modification, and installation requirements to integrate the TSS into the Cobra helicopters. The TSS provides target information and tracking data for the helicopter, in addition to passive targeting for integrated weapons.

TSS is a multi-sensor, electro-optical/infrared fire control system developed for the U.S. Marine Corps. The system uses a turret mounted onto the nose of the aircraft, and features multi-mode and multi-target tracking capabilities.
Work on the contract will be performed in Florida, and is expected to be complete by December 2017.
UPI.com

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AH-1Z Super Cobra
 
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Pakistan AH-1Z Target Sight System Contract

Posted on 20 January, 2016



US Marine Corps AH-1Z Viper 168398 ‘YR-45’ from Marine Medium Tiltrotor Squadron 161 (VMM-161) ‘Gray Hawks’, 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit, undertakes a training flight over the Pacific Ocean on November 30, 2015. Lockheed Martin was awarded a contract on January 15 for work on the Target Sight System that will be installed on the AH-1Zs that are being ordered by the Pakistan Army. US Marine Corps/Sgt Jamean Berry

LOCKHEED MARTIN’S Missiles and Fire Control division has been awarded a $14,221,556 contract to carry out work on the Target Sight System (TSS) for the Pakistan Army Aviation Corps’ Bell AH-1Z Viper attack helicopters. An initial $3,555,389 from Fiscal 2016 Foreign Military Sales funding was released when the deal was awarded on January 15 by the US Naval surface Warfare Center.

The work involved includes carrying out non-recurring engineering requirements on the TSS, including software development and testing, system modification, testing and installation requirements necessary to configure the TSS to Pakistani requirements. Contract completion is anticipated by December 2017.

The TSS provides target identification and tracking, passive targeting for integrated weapons, including Hellfire missiles, together with a laser-designation capability supporting friendly laser-guided weapons. As previously reported on AFD, Pakistan plans to buy 15 AH-1Zs and an initial order for the first of these was placed with Bell Helicopter on August 25, 2015. The number in that first order was not announced, but it is thought to be for only three helicopters. AFD-Dave Allport
 
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Pakistan Army Helicopters in Charsadda

PostThu Jan 21, 2016 4:52 pm

Pakistan Army helicopters seen at the site of terrorist attack at Bacha Khan University, Charsadda, on January 20, 2016.
 

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Pakistan Army Helicopters in Charsadda

PostThu Jan 21, 2016 4:52 pm

Pakistan Army helicopters seen at the site of terrorist attack at Bacha Khan University, Charsadda, on January 20, 2016.
any news on the trials of Z10 by PAA. thanks in advance.
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any news on the trials of Z10 by PAA. thanks in advance.
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According to Haris PDF Pak Army is very happy with performance of Z10 they sent them back for few Pak related upgrades and two of them r back again with one Z19 too i think they back with upgrades .Haris and Usman both think there will be an order near future .
 
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According to Haris PDF Pak Army is very happy with performance of Z10 they sent them back for few Pak related upgrades and two of them r back again with one Z19 too i think they back with upgrades .Haris and Usman both think there will be an order near future .
The reason I asked was some questions raised on the net about the tewmperature rising very quickly in Z10s. I hope it was just an internet rumour. I do like the platofrm. The other resason is the talks between PAA and the Russians for MII 28s. Where do we fit this in unoess the Z10 did not quite live upto its reputation.
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I hope soon, contract will be signed for Z10. Any hope about adding in numbers of MI 35 as original contract was for only 4.
Why did Pakistan never consider KA 52 ?
 
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