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I am not going to address your whole post although I disagree with you but you are right about one thing, nothing is going to change and the IWT is here to stay. Cheers.

Fair play mate, I'm with you.

Only Indus and Sutlej have their fountain heads in Tibet. Majority of the water for these rivers are collected in India(39%) and Pakistan(47%). China accounts for very little here (6-15% based on source).
The place where China has leverage is Brahmaputra. Where they are already building many reservoirs and dams against the interests of India and Bangladesh. If anything, India should follow what China is doing with Brahmaputra and ensure that we have enough control over water.
Infact India can tighten the taps even without having to abrogate the IWT by utilizing waters to the maximum allowed in the treaty.
Regarding things going on as normal, this is not normal. You may like it, but for us to let the tap run even when you are killing our people in our home is not normal. We should ensure that Pakistan knows of the non violent repercussions of brewing trouble for India.

Major tributaries that give strength to the ganges come from Tibet, their strength does not come from India, but China, Nepal and then India.
The Indus springs from China, you tighten the taps there, a quick discussion and it will be shut off to you. I've discussed what happens next.
China has actually held back its full plans for the Brahmaputra.
As for the rest, do what you can, come back here to this thread when something happens.

I'll let you read this, the latest from the India media.



While raising Indus, India must not forget China
By Dipanjan Roy Chaudhury, ET Bureau | Sep 24, 2016, 06.36 AM IST
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NEW DELHI: Calls for the abrogation of the 50-year-old Indus Water Treaty (IWT) may be a naive and irrational reaction given that the treaty has many stakeholders besides India and Pakistan and any unilateral tinkering could have implications to water sharing arrangement with China, Nepal and Bangladesh too.

Delhi has proposed a similar water sharing pact with China where the northern neighbour is the upper riparian state with and India the lower riparian state.
The biggest impediment for scrapping IWT is that India -- a lower riparian state wants to conclude water sharing pact with China - therefore cannot be viewed as acting in a unilateral fashion against lower riparian state Pakistan, indicated sources familiar with the matter.

The Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) publicly stated that IWT cannot be "one-sided affair" in the aftermath of the Uri attack. Policy makers in South Block are not enthusiastic about scrapping the treaty that has stood the test of time including wars of 1965, 1971 and the 1999 Kargil standoff besides the Kashmir insurgency since 1990.

China maintains an advantageous position as the upstream riparian of the Brahmaputra. It can, theoretically, choose to withhold hydrological information and can build infrastructure to intentionally prevent water from flowing downstream. Fear has been created in India because of previous tendencies where the Chinese have been unwilling to provide details of its hydro-projects, and when it did, gave contradictory information.

Beijing and New Delhi signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on 'Strengthening Cooperation on Trans-Border Rivers' in 2013, recognising that trans-boundary rivers are an important asset to the development of all riparian regions. Both countries agreed to strengthen communication and strategic trust. China agreed to provide more hydrological information to India at the start of the flood season. In 2015 India and China also renewed MoU for five years of hydrological information of Sutlej or or Langqen Zangbo.

As lower riparian countries India and Bangladesh rely on the Brahmaputra for water, agriculture and livelihoods. Upstream, China holds an important strategic advantage over the river's flow. Chinese dam-building and water division plans along the Yarlung Zangbo (as the Brahmaputra in called in China) is a source of tension between the two neighbours, sources pointed out.

India is a lower-riparian state with regard to rivers flowing from Nepal (an upper riparian state) and has successful water sharing arrangement with Bangladesh (both share more than 50 rivers). The proposed Teesta Water-Sharing Pact, which has been a point of discord between Bangladesh and India, is yet to be concluded.
The other apprehension from abrogation of IWT is that it might help strength of Lashkar-e-Taebbya (LeT). Any abrogation of the treaty will impact Punjab, Pakistan's most prosperous province, strengthening the LeT. JuD Chief Hafiz Saeed in the past has accused India of withholding water to Pakistan and scrapping of IWT will give him a perfect opportunity to step up recruitment. Pakistan's Punjab is LeT's biggest support base.

Further, as the World Bank brokered IWT in 1960, there is an involvement of the third party and it is difficult to abrogate the treaty unilaterally by any of the three parties. India is negotiating other river project treaties with Pakistan with IWT as the basis. In the past India has got green signal for Baglihar Dam in J&K. Delhi has also won from Hague Court rights for diverting a minimum amount of water for power generation under Kishanganga Project. All these flow from successful successful implementation of IWT by all signatories, experts noted.
It may be recalled that since the ratification of the treaty in 1960, India and Pakistan have not engaged in any water wars. Most disagreements and disputes have been settled via legal procedures within the framework of the treaty. The treaty is considered to be one of the most successful water sharing endeavours in the world even though analysts acknowledge the need to update certain technical specifications and expand the scope of the document to include climate change.


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ust-not-forget-china/articleshow/54490210.cms
 
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Ravi ,Chenab , sutlej originate in Himachal pradesh, Which is hindu majority. And Indus flows through Leh Ladakh which is Buddhist majority.

We should divert Ravi chenab and sutlej to Rajasthan, Gujarat and Maharastra ...through More canals like Indira Gandhi canals.

We should use cloud seeding to precipitate all snow on Indian side of Himalayas. After all Himalayan snow passes over Indian airspace. This will make us independent of Tibet glaciers.

So if China tries to steal water from Tibet glaciers, we shift location of Glaciers into Indian territory use weather manipulation and cloud seeding.

Infact China will become dependent on India since all water in Chinese glaciers pass over Indian airspace. If we use cloud seeding to precipitate before reaching Chinese territory, We can have a serious leverage over China.
 
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Ravi ,Chenab , sutlej originate in Himachal pradesh, Which is hindu majority. And Indus flows through Leh Ladakh which is Buddhist majority.

We should divert Ravi chenab and sutlej to Rajasthan, Gujarat and Maharastra ...through More canals like Indira Gandhi canals.

We should use cloud seeding to precipitate all snow on Indian side of Himalayas. After all Himalayan snow passes over Indian airspace. This will make us independent of Tibet glaciers.

So if China tries to steal water from Tibet glaciers, we shift location of Glaciers into Indian territory use weather manipulation and cloud seeding.

Infact China will become dependent on India since all water in Chinese glaciers pass over Indian airspace. If we use cloud seeding to precipitate before reaching Chinese territory, We can have a serious leverage over China.
And and and...I woke up
 
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Muahahahaha .....

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Ravi ,Chenab , sutlej originate in Himachal pradesh, Which is hindu majority. And Indus flows through Leh Ladakh which is Buddhist majority.

We should divert Ravi chenab and sutlej to Rajasthan, Gujarat and Maharastra ...through More canals like Indira Gandhi canals.

We should use cloud seeding to precipitate all snow on Indian side of Himalayas. After all Himalayan snow passes over Indian airspace. This will make us independent of Tibet glaciers.

So if China tries to steal water from Tibet glaciers, we shift location of Glaciers into Indian territory use weather manipulation and cloud seeding.

Infact China will become dependent on India since all water in Chinese glaciers pass over Indian airspace. If we use cloud seeding to precipitate before reaching Chinese territory, We can have a serious leverage over China.
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Considering how Pakistan itself has spread misinformation over Indus water treaty to their people, all India needs to do is mention the treaty once in a while just to spook them.

Yup, I know. Its like mentioning 'Tibet' to China.

Even the paid 50 cents start $hitting bricks and quickly change the topic. :lol:
 
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Considering how Pakistan itself has spread misinformation over Indus water treaty to their people, all India needs to do is mention the treaty once in a while just to spook them.


If fauji farms were publically listed & trading actively on KSE, mentioning IWT , every now & then would destroy it's net worth.After all Pakistan can do without water not fauji enterprises.
 
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If fauji farms were publically listed & trading actively on KSE, mentioning IWT , every now & then would destroy it's net worth.After all Pakistan can do without water not fauji enterprises.

The fauji did not even eat grass for making the nulcear bum ....... it was the aam janta who ate that grass and was given the good green book :P
 
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And it's 5 cents .For 50 cents they get TTA 's like @Chinese-Dragon .

I like Chinese-Dragon and Andrew Jin for most parts. (when they do not troll ) only he has a habit of mentioning 1962 in pretty much every post that deals with India :P

Maybe he can take back the message to the CCP that India wold really like to be friends and good neighbours with China.
 
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I like Chinese-Dragon and Andrew Jin for most parts. (when they do not troll ) only he has a habit of mentioning 1962 in pretty much every post that deals with India :P

Maybe he can take back the message to the CCP that India wold really like to be friends and good neighbours with China.


Yup.true.though I haven't had the opportunity to interact with Andrew Jin.I recall Chinese dragon trying to engage some Indian members fruitfully in a discussion & he got terribly trolled by those idiots.Since then , he lapsed into troll behaviour every now & then .but he's a decent guy.
 
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Yup.true.though I haven't had the opportunity to interact with Andrew Jin.I recall Chinese dragon trying to engage some Indian members fruitfully in a discussion & he got terribly trolled by those idiots.Since then , he lapsed into troll behaviour every now & then .but he's a decent guy.

I don't think the chinese are good judge of character, do you ? Maybe its just on pdf.
 
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The Ravi and Jhelum in Kashmir can be dammed and used for the benefit of Kashmir Valley's inhabitants



none of your friends Turkey or China honor international laws regarding river water sharing

What about brahmaputra? Guys this will surely start a new domain of conflicts.
 
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