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Pakistan And India-Water Disputes-News And Updates

Tuesday, February 09, 2010
By Dilshad Azeem

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has conveyed to India its plan for a comprehensive discussion on Jhelum and Chinab waters over which Pakistan enjoys exclusive rights under the Indus Waters Treaty of 1960.

“As Kashmir is the most important issue, the water issue is equally vital for us to be included in the agenda of coming Pak-India talks,” Foreign Office Spokesman Abdul Basit told The News here on Monday.

Basit expressed the hope there might be progress by the current weekend about the final timing and venue for recommencement of a bilateral dialogue. “We expect a final shape by the end of this week. We stand for resuming of composite dialogue for which a format is being worked out through diplomatic channels,” the spokesman said.

The most burning water-related issue is Kishanganga hydropower project that India is constructing on River Jhelum thus depriving Pakistan of building such a project in its territory under priority right basis.

Pakistan decided to opt for a third party arbitration as India continued construction of 330 Megawatt Kishanganga project commenced without getting a prior approval from Pakistan under the 1960 treaty.

As Islamabad is urging for a composite dialogue with Kashmir and water controversies on top of the agenda, New Delhi places terrorism-related issues on top. To another query, the Foreign Office spokesman maintained the Indian side has been told about Pakistan’s plan for bilateral dialogue. “It must be meaningful and result-oriented.”

“Both sides are in the process of preparing a format to make the talks purposeful and consequential,” was his response when asked about the current status of talks. A three-member team of Indian side of Permanent Commission on Indus Waters (PCIW) is on Pakistan visit to inspect Sutlij, Ravi and Bias rivers over which New Delhi have exclusive rights.

“The team, headed by its commissioner, has no plan to meet the foreign office officials as it will be entertained by Commissioner Syed Jamaat Ali Shah during its visit to various sites,” officials said.

Abdul Basit also confirmed it was purely a technical delegation. “This team is not to hold talks on controversial matters.” However, he said Pakistani Commissioner PCIW Syed Jamaat Ali Shah and his department were fully on board to take their input on the water issue with India.

Pakistan to raise water issue with India

Apart from every thing the charter of democracy signed between two "so called" biggest parties of Pakistan PML-N and PPP clearly stated in point #17 that

"Peaceful relations with India and Afghanistan will be pursued without prejudice to outstanding disputes."

remind you again this is the charter of democracy between two Pakistani political parties which is declaring foreign policy as well. This is the main issue, more clearly THERE IS NO WILL TO DO ANYTHING WHAT SO EVER.
Allah bless Pakistan
 
India's water will not be allowed to go to Pakistan: Modi
By News Desk
Published: November 25, 2016
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Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi while referring to the Indus Water Treaty has said that water belonging to India will not be allowed to go to Pakistan.

“The fields of our farmers must have adequate water. Water that belongs to India cannot be allowed to go to Pakistan…Government will do everything to give enough water to our farmers,” Modi was quoted as saying.

Modi made the remarks in Bhatinda where he was inaugurating the All India Institute of Medical Sciences.

India seeks to use more water from Indus basin, but within Indus Waters Treaty terms

The 1960 Indus Water Treaty is a water-sharing treaty between the two countries, brokered by the World Bank. Under the accord, India can use water from the three eastern rivers Sutlej, Beas, and Ravi, while Pakistan has exclusive rights over the three western rivers Indus, Chenab and Jhelum.

“We formed a task force on Indus Water Treaty to ensure farmers of Punjab and other states get each drop of water due to them,” Modi added.

Earlier this month, the Indian government decided to use more water from the Indus basin rivers, but within the limitations of the Indus Waters Treaty with Pakistan.

Modi’s office set a December deadline for the country’s Central Electricity Authority to complete the techno-economic appraisal, pending for over a year – to check the viability of about six hydroelectric projects on the Chenab, after consulting the Central Water Commission.

India cannot annul Indus Waters Treaty: FO

Meanwhile, Pakistan warned that India could not unilaterally revoke or alter the treaty.

“The Indus Waters Treaty (IWT) is not time barred and was never intended to be time or event specific. It is binding on both India and Pakistan and has no exit provision,” Foreign Office Spokesperson Nafees Zakaria said.

Pakistan and India have been involved in a tense verbal and diplomatic spat after 18 Indian military personnel were killed in an attack on Uri’s Srinagar military base near the Line of Control (LoC) on September 18.

This article originally appeared on The Indian Express
 
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this is not Pakistan Phobia. As per the IWT India has full rights to theese waters. Till now we have been generous to Pakistan and sharing the waters. But now dont expect the same to continue. We will take what is rightfully ours
 
WB gets in touch with Pakistan over water dispute with India
World Bank President Jim Yong Kim has held a telephonic conversation with Pakistan’s Finance Minster Senator Ishaq Dar and discussed with him Indo—Pak water dispute, days after the country asked the global lender to “fulfil its obligations” on the issue.

Dawn newspaper quoted official sources as saying the call was made on Monday.

Mr. Dar on December 23 had written a letter to Mr. Kim over the dispute over two hydroelectric power plants —— Kishanganga and Ratle —— that India is building on the Indus rivers system.

Mr. Dar in his letter said that delaying arbitration would seriously prejudice Pakistan’s interests and rights under the Indus Waters Treaty.

The letter explained that Pakistan was not withdrawing its earlier request to the bank to appoint the chairman of the Court of Arbitration and since this process had already been “inordinately delayed”, Islamabad wanted the bank to appoint the chairman as soon as possible.

Pakistan believes that further delay would hurt its interests as India is working day and night to complete the two disputed projects. And once they are completed, it will be difficult to undo them.

The Indus Waters Treaty, signed in 1960, distributed the Indus basin rivers between the two countries, giving India control over the three eastern rivers — the Beas, the Ravi and the Sutlej — while Pakistan has the three western rivers — the Indus, the Chenab and the Jhelum. The treaty empowers the World Bank to arbitrate any water dispute between India and Pakistan.

Earlier, last week Mr. Kim sent a letter to the finance ministers of India and Pakistan, informing them that he had decided to ‘pause’ the bank’s arbitration and urged the two neighbours to decide by the end of January how they wanted to settle this dispute.

Tensions over the water dispute intensified in November when Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi threatened to block the flow of water into Pakistan.

In the formal request sent to the bank, Pakistan argued that the Court of Arbitration could be formed at the request of either party, if the party concludes that the dispute is not likely to be resolved by negotiation or mediation.

The bank would also be obliged to establish the court if the aggrieved party concluded that the other government was unduly delaying the negotiations.

Pakistan informed the World Bank that it has already exhausted the option to engage India for resolving the dispute through bilateral talks and was now exercising the option to take its case to the Court of Arbitration.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...-water-dispute-with-India/article16949266.ece
 
China is also generous for flowing waters to India... then why Indians bubble up when China says for stopping waters... ??
water share is not gratitude over Pakistan but it is being received on international agreement basis that is right of Pakistan.
 
Pakistan’s water crisis not India’s fault
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Lt Gen Pramod Grover (retd)
Pakistan is facing a water crisis due to poor management and anticipated reduction in intake through the nine trans-border rivers from Afghanistan and in the Indus river from China. Pakistan’s allegation that India is trying to usurp its share of water by constructing hydel power plants on the western rivers is not based on facts.

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Dispute: Pakistan has been accusing India of constructing hydroelectric power projects in violation of the Indus Waters Treaty.
Lt Gen Pramod Grover (retd)
Former Information Commissioner, Punjab

THE Indus Waters Treaty, signed by India and Pakistan in 1960, mandates the commissions of both countries to inspect sites and works on both sides of the Indus basin in a block of five years. Honouring this obligation, a Pakistani delegation recently visited the Chenab river basin in Jammu and Kashmir for an inspection. Since the signing of the treaty, 118 such tours on both sides have been undertaken. The last tours of the commissions in Pakistan and India were conducted in July 2013 and September 2014, respectively. The current five-year block ends in March 2020.

During the bilateral talks on the treaty in Lahore in August last year, India, rejecting Pakistan’s objections to the construction of the Pakal Dul and Lower Kalnai hydroelectric power projects (HEPs) on the Chenab river, had invited Pakistani experts to visit the sites to address their concerns regarding the impact on the flow of water into their country.

The Pakul Dul project (1,000 MW, ultimately 1,500 MW) is located on the Marusadar river, a major right-bank tributary of the Chenab Main, in Doda district. The confluence of the Marusadar and Chenab is 225 km upstream of the Marala headworks and 76 km from the Baglihar HEP. A concrete-faced rock fill dam with a height of 167 metres is being constructed at a cost of Rs 8,110 crore. Pakul Dul will not only be the largest hydroelectric power project in Jammu and Kashmir, but will also have the first storage unit. Also, subsequent to its commissioning, Jammu and Kashmir will get 12 per cent free power after 10 years.
The Lower Kalnai HEP is located on the left-bank tributary of the Chenab, about 19 km downstream of Dulhasti HEP and 180 km upstream of the boundary between Pakistan and India. A concrete gravity dam with a height of 34 metres is proposed to be constructed with an installed capacity of 48 MW.

Pakistan has raised technical issues, alleging that the design parameters constitute a violation of the restrictions imposed as per the treaty. Pakistan has objected to the designs of the projects — freeboard, pondage, spillway and intake crest elevation.
India, however, has rejected such assertions, stating that the projects were being built in adherence to the parameters laid down in the treaty. As against 3.6 MAF (million acre ft) which India can store on the western rivers, the total storage capacity created so far is a mere 0.5 MAF. Pakal Dul is a storage project with a capacity of 88,000 acre ft, but this is within the permissible limit of storage of 0.6 MAF on the tributaries of the Chenab. The gross storage capacity of Lower Kalnai (1,508 acre ft) is so small that it has negligible downstream impact on Pakistan. Other design differences are small and not of much significance with respect to downstream impacts.

Water is becoming an existential issue for Pakistan. The country is facing a grim situation regarding its fast-depleting fresh water resources. Pakistan has been attributing its problems of water scarcity to Indian action of constructing hydel projects on the western rivers. In Pakistan’s perception, the construction of dams by India could lower the quantity of water in these rivers.

However, their water-related problems need to be attributed to Pakistan having drawn limited benefit of India’s benevolence, despite the fact that it has been receiving more than its authorised share. Projects being undertaken by India are in tune with the provisions of the treaty. In 1950, the water available per capita annually was 5,500 cubic metres when the population of the erstwhile West Pakistan was 33 million; at present, it is down to 850 cubic metres annually, while the population has increased to 210 million. The overall quantity of water flowing in the western rivers to Pakistan remains approximately the same. As per a recent report, Pakistan is receiving about 154 MAF of water annually against an authorisation of 136 MAF.

As far as India is concerned, the Kashmir dispute and the water dispute are inextricably intertwined. Pakistan’s attempts over the years to annex Kashmir can be seen in the context of attempts to ensure water security. Despite India’s generosity in the sharing of the Indus river waters, Pakistan has consistently adopted an obstructionist strategy since 1977, raising issues regarding run-of-river projects under construction on the western rivers by India.

Such an attitude has not only stressed the treaty itself, but also has had a considerable negative impact on the economic progress of Jammu and Kashmir. The state, even though being upper riparian, exploits merely one-seventh of its hydel power potential. India, at present, irrigates 0.8 million acres area against the limitation imposed on the extent of area to be irrigated (1.32 million acres) with the waters of the western rivers. The annual energy loss suffered by Jammu and Kashmir is 60,000 million units; evaluated at the rate of Rs 2 per unit, it is approximately Rs 12,000 crore. These restrictions have, therefore, imposed a loss in terms of development of industry, power and agriculture equal to around Rs 40,000 crore annually.

The World Economic Forum rates the water crisis as the biggest risk in Pakistan, with terrorist attacks third on the list. Pakistan is facing the crisis due to poor management and anticipated reduction in intake through the nine trans-border rivers from Afghanistan and in the Indus river from China. The reduction in discharge is the result of construction of hydel power projects with storage facilities by Afghanistan and China. Shortage of water in Pakistan, thus, has very little to do with the non-adherence of the provisions of the treaty by India. As such, its allegation that India is trying to usurp its share of water by constructing hydel power plants on the western rivers is not based on facts.

A recent report of the World Bank puts into perspective the massive wastage of water in Pakistan. Water worth $25 billion flows into the sea annually. As per the report, agriculture, which consumes more than 80 per cent of water, contributes less than 5 per cent of the GDP. Pakistan needs to initiate necessary action on its own to improve the water availability to overcome the crisis.
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/comment/pakistan-s-water-crisis-not-india-s-fault/727048.html
 
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India has decided to block the flow of its share of water from the Indus rivers into Pakistan, Union Minister Nitin Gadkari tweeted on Thursday, days after the Pulwama terror attack in which 40 soldiers were killed in Kashmir by a suicide bomber of Pakistan-based Jaish-e-Mohammad.

"Our government has decided to stop our share of water which used to flow to Pakistan. We will divert water from Eastern rivers and supply it to our people in Jammu and Kashmir and Punjab," Nitin Gadkari said in a series of tweets.

He said the waters of the Ravi, Sutlej and Beas rivers would be diverted and supplied to Jammu and Kashmir and Punjab.
 
If India starts a war, Pakistan should bomb the all the Indian built Dams in Kashmir and the water problems of Pakistan would be solved. Now is the correct time as the water level in the dams is low and there is not much danger of flood if the dams are destroyed. Britain successfully bombed 2 German Dams in WWII using specially developed Barrel Bombs.
 
If India starts a war, Pakistan should bomb the all the Indian built Dams in Kashmir and the water problems of Pakistan would be solved. Now is the correct time as the water level in the dams is low and there is not much danger of flood if the dams are destroyed. Britain successfully bombed 2 German Dams in WWII using specially developed Barrel Bombs.

No in wars there are rules and laws

Pakistan abides to the highest standard
 
This is how Pakistan Navy detected Indian submarine in Pakistan's waters

 
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