Brother when you answer some ones war trumpets and when you stand on that hill to face the enemy never have mercy at the enemy and never ever recite the poetry, so it will be good for your enemy ears. Look at the death eye ball to eye ball as you are giving the chance to the enemy to regroup and come back to haunt your future generations. We buckled at the threat of missiles attack after the 27th and what have we got article 370 and what next is waiting for us only Allah knows. Enemy is cunning and calling our bluffs and that night if their was a genuine opportunity we should have taken it and called their bluff and their are no rooms for pleasing enemy. They have lost the fear of our nuclear deterrent as we start talking we will only use the nuclear weapons if enemy breaks through our line of defence and we will use it on our soil. How previous BJP governments used to run to US to be saved from the nuclear attack.
IK has already told the nation he is pacifist and he will not go to war and Modi is stretching his legs yards by yards, and saying to IK come on you will not go to war with me and I will make a good cup of tea for you.
In war you take opportunities if present themselves and deal with the misfortunes if come in your way and goals are fluid and only outcome is good, which is best for you and that is total victory. Imagine in that incident of 27 if our planes were at the wrong place and Indian pilots had the opportunity to feast would they have hesitated it??? Am not diluting the success of that night in any shape or form and proud of them what they have achieved. But if we could have achieved more why not Modi is the one who send the planes to bomb us so pay the highest price, if we can extract more then we should take it. Battles are for winners not for but's and if's and fears of escalations and that's how wars are won.
What I have heard now, their was an opportunity for us to put to bed once for all enemy venturing on our soil. Why you think surgical strike no 2 drama happened as we didn't came up with some response for surgical strike Bollywood drama no 1.
Regarding India having ears of the world whose fault is that others then ours. We messed up our economy never thought of educating our kids still a country with out a plan for industrialization and only plan we have got is for IMF. How are we going to get off the IMF when we don't produce the goods what world needs and wants. Nawaz was such a clever clog, a country was run from his bedroom having no foreign minster for years and no one dare to ask him are you that silly. Have no lobby in US and we are the ones who lost 70000 of our people thanks to fighting US war and they are listening to our enemy country, our diplomats must have a very low IQ then and not fit for their jobs. We have written off US due to our failed diplomacy and forgetting US is still a sole super power and we just have to fight for our interests on our terms and guess who filled that vacuum our beloved neighbour. Question the current government we are going through current crisis and how many capitals Qureshi have visited and he is still making phone calls from some container to rekindle the old friendships. With container diplomacy you are put on the container train and send to the storage in some desert, that's why we are finding our selves with few friends and even those friends are awarding Modi the highest accolade of their countries. Where is the vigour, passion, desire and esteem for the job well done in our diplomats or is this is a well paid job for them.
Now what's done is done our air force have provided us a room to maneuverer thanks to 27 night success and thanks to Allah so lets not dither the next time and worry about the escalation and break arms and legs too if someone crosses that line.
You have written a long and verbose diatribe with no substance, one that almost reminds me of another poster who always responds to facts with rhetoric and whom I assiduously ignore. I am not in the habit of trading rhetoric with rhetoric. I simply do not have the time, and the time I spend here is time away from my really busy schedule so I would rather learn and teach rather than exchanging verbosity.
So let me give to you my scenario of why it was sensible to let those planes go than engage and destroy them.
A. In war you create a narrative in accordance with the international norms of rules of engagement.
B. If you engage the enemy in air you need to do so within your borders for it not to be an aggressive maneouvre. You may remember also at sea that we caused one of their latest subs to surface and escorted it out of our waters.
C. There is another Mig 21 that was destroyed and its carcass landed in Badgam at roughly 9:27am which was the time all the action was taking place. The cause according to IAF was technical malfunction(and I say my foot!) You will notice that PAF did not claim that kill in spite of the fact that it is easy to do so and it is too much lf a coincidence for it to have crashed at the same time when all the action was taking place. The matter is widely reported in Indian Media. PAF also specifically stayed away from claiming the fratricide of their helicopter right from the word go instead of claiming it as a kill. Those 2 are recorded in Indian media so can be checked by anyone.
D. PAF only claimed 2 kills as they were recorded as being in Pakistani air space.
E. The ground action was an aggressive move but was in response to a similar move by IAF. PAF took the precaution to guide the ammo to the site it wanted to hit and then INTENTIONALLY let it wear away so it landed in the grounds rather than hit the actual target. It had been established earlier that the IAF strike fell in no man's land and did not cause any loss of human life( we consider the loss of our 4 trees and a crow to be serious matter none the less). Actual attack that day could have caused the Indian army 10000 lives.
If you look at all the facts presented above you see a trend emerging.
A. Response was daring and befitting but not excessive.
B. Both planes were engaged in our air space conducting aggressive maneouvres and therefore we were justified.
You may notice that the IAF did not raise a hue and cry about their losses in spite of it stinging them badly. So we slapped them hard. But next we raised the olive branch by deciding in our Parlianment that we will return their air man to them. I think it was coup de grace. You won more hearts and minds with that one move than all your wailing about the thousand issues that you face.
At the same time you have not allowed your adversary the one excuse that he would have needed to have ostracized you in international media where most wars of the 21st century have been fought. May I humbly also point out that there has NEVER been a war between the Nuclear armed nations. It is my thinking that in such a war the Nukes will be resorted to as first line of attack rather than wait for the enemy to respond. A NUCLEAR WAR is a Zero sum game as it will lead to MAD which defeats the very purpose of waging war. With more than a 100 Nuke weapons on each side the south East Asia will soon be charred beyond recognition and 1/5th of the population of our planet will die a miserable death. This needs to be avoided by not provoking each other.
Now if you have not understood why it was so important not to have exceeded your response to THEIR aggression and throw it at their faces (look at the FATF fiasco hanging on our heads as just one example if you cannot see the economic disaster we are already facing without indulging in a war) then you will never understand. Those 7 planes(and I will still maintain 6) were very importantly left behind for furtherance of our narrative as a peace loving nation which will not hesitate to respond to any aggression but will still hold on to reason.
Lastly please read what Islam tells you to do in case of taking revenge and you will understand the beauty as well as the logic of this response and why it was important to do so.
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