US had its Nukes and decent amount of gold stationed outside during the cold war. Nukes to respond back incase of massive Soviet Nuclear attack and gold to kick start it economy from nothing. I am pretty sure other countries would have had similar strategies. I don't think Pakistanis are dumb enough not the learn anything from this strategy.
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The number of Babur SLCM carried by each sub depends on the number of torpedo tubes in the sub. Pakistani NESCOM engineers and scientists came up with a rather innovative solution that Babur SLCM is simply packed inside the standard torpedo shells instead of going for specialised vertical launch tubes. Thus saving time and money and even our existing submarines are transformed into SLCM launch platforms.
It is a nice ship, I agree, and designed for a Chinese 32 cell VLS/SAM.The penguin has returned from his summer vacation
I broadly agree with you, but I think the PN should skip the F-22P-line and move onto a new platform such as the CSOC design seen here. If equipped with a medium-range VL-SAM, 6 such vessels would prove to be a more than sufficient replacement for the Type 21s. If these are augmented by 4 corvettes of this nature to offer patrol as well as added ASW capacity (by reinforcing the F-22P), the PN would be in good shape.
LIke the idea of layering corvettes and frigate, but I would prefer a layering of highly efficient small crew, very longer range OPVs backed by allround frigates. ASW should be much a combination of effort between the frigates, their helo's, land based medium helo's, maritime patrol aircraft and submarines. An ASW asset that cannot well defend itself against antiship missiles and air attack won't last long.The penguin has returned from his summer vacation
I broadly agree with you, but I think the PN should skip the F-22P-line and move onto a new platform such as the CSOC design seen here. If equipped with a medium-range VL-SAM, 6 such vessels would prove to be a more than sufficient replacement for the Type 21s. If these are augmented by 4 corvettes of this nature to offer patrol as well as added ASW capacity (by reinforcing the F-22P), the PN would be in good shape.
The CAMM/CAMM-ER idea is interesting, though I'm worried that British-Pakistani defence relations at this time will need some work to be reignited. But given the fact that an AESA radar for Selex is in the running for JF-17, there may be a shot here. I believe the C28A is equipped with Western subsystems (Thales?), but in the worst case scenario, the ships could be built and integrated with radar and other subsystems in Pakistan with foreign vendor support. I just hope they don't go for F-22P again or marginally improved F-22P, it needs to be a design that is easily able to take on a 32-cell VLS system.It is a nice ship, I agree, and designed for a Chinese 32 cell VLS/SAM.
Still, if you take the C-28A, slap on an Thales I-mast 500 with APAR and a MK41 with 32 ESSM...
Or adopt the Australian CEAFAR / CEAMOUNT radar system for it, combined with the Smart S mk 2 for it.
Instead of Mk41, you can also work with Sylver. And inplace of ESSM there is e.g.CAMM (<1–25+ km) and
CAMM-ER (<1–45+ km) aka Sea Cepter. That missile is designed to be quad-packed into DCNS SYLVER A50/A70 launchers, or in American Mk.41 tactical/strike length cells.
CAMM-ER range is comparable to ESSM is comparable to 9M317 (= basis for HQ16)
Current C28A =
Displacement: 2880 tons and 3000 tons full load
Length: 120 m (390 ft)
Beam: 14.4 m (47 ft)
Draught: 3.87 m (12.7 ft)
as compared to 3500 tons full load, 135m x 15,3m (dimension incidentally quite like Type 054, but lower tonnage.)
I think the C28A is underestimated in terms of tonnage, given that F22P already is
Displacement: 2,500 tonnes (standard) 3,144 tonnes (full load)
for
Length: 123.2 m (404 ft)
Beam: 13.8 m (45 ft)
Draught: 3.76 m (12.3 ft
LIke the idea of layering corvettes and frigate, but I would prefer a layering of highly efficient small crew, very longer range OPVs backed by allround frigates. ASW should be much a combination of effort between the frigates, their helo's, land based medium helo's, maritime patrol aircraft and submarines. An ASW asset that cannot well defend itself against antiship missiles and air attack won't last long.
This is not a 3500 tons ship at all.
