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PAF's 35 Year Old Modern Day Killer

but its not that rosy believe me
I said they are hardworking, productive and have the intellectual resource which makes them the superpower. I never said I would live there or it is a utopia. Clearly you or those who you know thought differant and migrated there.
 
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@Khafee @Indus Pakistan please stop to fight each other’s.

Fact is yes US Tech is leading the world since several decades. Historically, each period had his leading power. Today it’s the turn of USA, tomorrow it will be someone else.

Who ? How? When ? Only Allah know.

But we should keep in mind that Americans have experience of several decades in everything, and they took advantage when the world presented them the occasion especially world wars. On the others we Pakistanis have started just the first project of building jet in 90 if I’m not mistaken. And despite having many problems we succeeded in the task with the JF17. Even if it is with Chinese help.

But still we need more than just PAC working on JF17. We need to spread the task on others local industries. We should collaborate with students in our universities.... etc.

We are a young nation compared to others, and we had and still has today a chaotic path since the independence. So yes we have to work hard and harder to build a psychological mind oriented towards innovations etc.

There should never shame to recognise that someone has better technologies than us. But we should work harder to create a certain path toward success.
 
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we have to admit US tech is far superior and reliable then chinese, russian and european tech. an air craft that first flew in late 70s is still a killer for the relatively newer russian jets.

Unfortunately, there are many other aspects --- such as price, political strings/conditions, transfer of tech, etc etc etc.
 
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Indeed it is a king fighter jet and fearsome machine...but we should not repeat the same old praising song again and again....US will not give us any new/used machine under Trump Govt. Hoping it is fine...but the reality is to find an alternative.
 
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That's the quality of American weapons even a 35 years old machine is kicking a$$.
 
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This is one of the first F-16 Fighting Falcons that was delivered to the PAF in early 1980s.
While after 35 years of service, most aircraft will be obsolete or nearing their service life, the F-16, however, with it's capacity to induct comprehensive upgrades, has remained a front runner in the modern aerial combat, a fact it again proved decisively during recent air clash with the Indian Air Force.


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Modi's single sentence " if we had Rafale then things would've been different" says it all how IAF felf on 27 Feb
 
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Yes, for a fact Americans work harder then Europeans.
You seem to have a knack of going off topic and throwing your weight around.

Your statements are not entirely true. But kudos to how you deflected your cheerleading - bordering on drooling - for USA and imposed it on someone else, lol.

History tells us an entirely different story to the tune we find you singing praise of the US for. A Europion country by the name Germany has that distinction in my book of being the most hardworking, creative and perfectionists of all.

There is no doubt that US is a great nation of hardworking people that have come from all over the world, no less geniuses from Germany, to prosper in the land of opportunity that became all the more attractive destination after World War II.

Relating back to the thread topic, it was German aviation prowess that advanced American and Russian aviation industry to new heights after they took designers and blue prints of German aviation marvels back to their respective countries and more decided to settle their on their own accunt and the victors made use of them to make unparalleled advancements in their own countries.

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The Nazi German Horten Ho 229, one of aviation’s most futuristic designs.
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Following is one of the designs it "inspired",
Northrop Grumman's concept for a flying wing fighter has similarities to the Hortens' innovative design:
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The Ho 229's design has influenced a Nasa project for a small flying wing which could explore Mars:
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Merely Cheerleading for Germany would have been really really mediocre and cheap of myself, so I decided backing my claims with some relevant facts as a much better approach.
 
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This is one of the first F-16 Fighting Falcons that was delivered to the PAF in early 1980s.
While after 35 years of service, most aircraft will be obsolete or nearing their service life, the F-16, however, with it's capacity to induct comprehensive upgrades, has remained a front runner in the modern aerial combat, a fact it again proved decisively during recent air clash with the Indian Air Force.


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F-16 is an Operational need for the PAF.

Block 70 is attractive enough
 
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Outstanding, a great appreciation for this bird no one wonder its the "Viper" for a reason. Off-topic I always wonder does PAF have some retd aircraft like A-5's - F-6's stored away for a rainy day ? any thoughts windy bro ?
Are they "vipers" though? I understand that these days they are referred to as vipers...but there was a time when we were told to call them "fighting falcons".... Or is "fighting falcons" just a squadron name?? I've never really been clear on that.

Whatever its nickname, f-16 is the most beautiful aircraft I ever did see.
 
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Fact is those 300 million Americans woke up today and made more productivity, more technology, more knowledge then most of the world combined including all of the 1.6 billion Muslims on earth by evening today.
I'd say the guys working here (below) have probably achieved that by themselves...

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Su30 and many russian jets are better than f16 and we should not undermine their capability.
Eh yeah, about that. I think you'll have a difficult time trying to sell that narrative on a larger scale. The Su-30/35 are nice jets as well, but I think the F-16 (of modern time) can take 'em out. And those jets don't stand a chance infront of the F-15 (Strike Eagle).

is there any chance that tornado will come to Pakistan..
What? Why?!! I'd take the A-10 Thunderbolt/Warthog anyday over the Tornado. Not that the A-10 is available.

Whatever its nickname, f-16 is the most beautiful aircraft I ever did see.
You deserve a POSITIVE RATING for just that statement.
 
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This is one of the first F-16 Fighting Falcons that was delivered to the PAF in early 1980s.
While after 35 years of service, most aircraft will be obsolete or nearing their service life, the F-16, however, with it's capacity to induct comprehensive upgrades, has remained a front runner in the modern aerial combat, a fact it again proved decisively during recent air clash with the Indian Air Force.


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This beauty never grows old.
Ps complete picture is having an F.16B carrying a DB.110 on centreline,this one is probably the cropped version.
 
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I'd say the guys working here (below) have probably achieved that by themselves...

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Eh yeah, about that. I think you'll have a difficult time trying to sell that narrative on a larger scale. The Su-30/35 are nice jets as well, but I think the F-16 (of modern time) can take 'em out. And those jets don't stand a chance infront of the F-15 (Strike Eagle).


What? Why?!! I'd take the A-10 Thunderbolt/Warthog anyday over the Tornado. Not that the A-10 is available.


You deserve a POSITIVE RATING for just that statement.
I think this is not proved yet as by looking at results of only one combat you cannot conclude this that f16 and f15 are better than modern russian jets, f16 are also downed by sams in iraq kuwait war, and in yougoslavia as well as by Syria in israel territory so they are not something regarded as invicible .There is high chance that if u.s use f16,f15 against iran alot of them will be downed by iranian airdefenses that is why u.s f22 and f35 arrived at their airbases in middle east
 
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