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PAF to get hi-tech Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System

well i know that they had signed about the purchase of MAR 1b earliear ,but had they inducted it that part i dont know as U are
stating .But any links or extra info u have that they had inducted it .Then plz post becoz i cant deny that bold part u mentioned
but any reliable news source shall be appreciated .

why are you confusing MAR 1 (SEAD missile) and MAA 1 B (SRAAM)?. Pakistan only inducted MAR 1 not MAR 1b. As for MAA 1 A and B ( infrared ASRAAM) A MODEL is fully delievered and B model deliever is ongoing with delievery started in late 2011 and some time ago PAF C-130 also spotted in brazil
 
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Sorry again ,silly TYPO mistake i meant MAA 1b not MAR 1b these names are all same sounding &
looking LOOLZZ
 
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Well since a poster mentioned that betweem 2015-2020 all indian fighters will be upgraded to advance thales helmets with built in vision based targeting systems that would be a major upgrade.

While the short term advantage we have with F16 fighter helmets in long run we do need to have a locally made helmets for JF17 thunders , to close the technological gap

But I don't see an intergated "Fire" and targeting system

Its just a heads on display of flight data , its not same as a Helmet where you target and engage an oppoents from visually moving your helmet ..

Am I wrong to assume that Pakistani Helmets are far more advance then Indian purchase

Pakistani Helmets:
View data
Target fighters
Target ground units
All from visual sensors

In Dog fight , a pakistani pilot can simply move his head with out needing to turn the whole plane to lock on an enemy jet and launch a missile

Indian Helmets:
Just display targeting information in helmet
Just a situational awareness improvement
I don't see abilty by pilot to lock on a target via helmet and engage the target
 
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can someone tell me what is the unit cost of a fully operational JHMCS???????
 
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We should either buy the AIM-9X or IRIS-T for greater HOBS capability.
 
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so guys here is the question these helmets r used to target AC off bore but if we dont have aim 9x than what is there use other tha more situnational awareness?

Even F-22s are not yet integrated with AIM-9X and would be done by 2017 a contract has been awarded to LM. So Yes AIM-9M is there for PAF with the capability.
 
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I've also heard that PAF pilot use this helmet.... is that right :S ?
 
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Please stop playing games!! War is serious business! Before you get the Su-30 or SU 35s in your JHMCS, you would have been roasted with their BVR weapons like the K-100/R-100 and Novator's R-172S-1 AAM-L available with a booster pack to extend its considerable range performance to 400 km.

Cheers!

You obviously have no clue that range is nice but no escape zone is a result of more then that variable. This sounds like me Di ck is bigger then yours yet you have no idea what the situation you are in. I have serious discussions with specialists about ECM, ECCM and lots more and here I have to read about my range is bigger... Duhhhh.... Wake up dude. I do not care you are Indian but read some books.
 
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We should either buy the AIM-9X or IRIS-T for greater HOBS capability.

Don't know about first one but there were news that Pakistan wanted IRIS-T and other stuff from Germany some time back, and what about A-Darter?? PAF had that.
 
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Well since a poster mentioned that betweem 2015-2020 all indian fighters will be upgraded to advance thales helmets with built in vision based targeting systems that would be a major upgrade.

While the short term advantage we have with F16 fighter helmets in long run we do need to have a locally made helmets for JF17 thunders , to close the technological gap

But I don't see an intergated "Fire" and targeting system

Its just a heads on display of flight data , its not same as a Helmet where you target and engage an oppoents from visually moving your helmet ..

Am I wrong to assume that Pakistani Helmets are far more advance then Indian purchase

Pakistani Helmets:
View data
Target fighters
Target ground units
All from visual sensors

In Dog fight , a pakistani pilot can simply move his head with out needing to turn the whole plane to lock on an enemy jet and launch a missile

Indian Helmets:
Just display targeting information in helmet
Just a situational awareness improvement
I don't see abilty by pilot to lock on a target via helmet and engage the target
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In my knowledge, IAF's Su-30MKI, MiG-29,MiG-21 Bison,Hal Tejas have helmet mounted sights. Mirages are getting them.
 
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LCA not in service,mig-21s? lol seriously?? and a source for the rest of them..

LCA has been inducted into service with the IOC-2.


MiG-21 "Bison"

MiG-21 Bison - The Underdog
The real article is from Bharrat Rakshak.

These Bisons did sow havoc in Cope India &Red flag Excercises ,causing it to be a "unpleasant surprise" for the USAF.

Su-30 MKI

The Su-30MKI Info Page - Vayu Sena


su30hudf16copeindia.jpg


Ex-Cope India 2005, A Su-30 MKI of IAF Squadron No.30 locks USAF F-16.

Mig-29

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A pilot of the No.47 Sqn Black Archers photographed with an early version of the Helmet Mounted Sight (HMS). The off boresight capability was a unique feature of the MiG-29 in the entire subcontinent, before the arrival of the Su-30. Since then MiG-21 (Bison) and even the Mirage-2000 has been equipped with a HMS. Soon the Indian Navy Harriers will be upgraded with s similar system.
Photofeature: Aircraft Cockpits - Vayu Sena

MiG-29 were the first to have Helmet Mounted Sights.


Mirage 2000s,SEPECAT Jaguars are getting HMDS,their upgrades are going own (deliveries have begun).
IN MiG-29ks have HMDS too.

Soon we will be an all HMDS IAF,with HMDS on all our frontline aircrafts.
 
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