PAF locked on 9 shoot only two...PAF official....0n 27 Feb....

[SIPRA]

Listen buddy, Pakistan is not America or China. Know Pakistan's position in today's world first! Our economy is all bottom low and even the ummah chumma have turned blind eye towards Pakistan. Pakistan would be more effected by a month or even week long war as it would be almost impossible to recover.
Shooting down 10 IAF fighters and that in their own territory would be an act of war with no side stopping! If someone slaps you, you dont respond with beating him to death but a punch would be more then enough.
What PAF did was send a strong message to India and the result was in their humiliation and a bloody nose.

Some Pakistanis are more delusional then Indians. apni ap ko super power sumajtay hai or india ko chutiya!

Excellent and sane post. Fully agree.

 

[kursed]

Hi,

That shows a total lack of understanding of the region---.

India was in no position for a full scale attack on pakistan or any other form of escalation.

Its economy is on the brink of collapse---. Any retaliation on their part would have seen foreign capitol flying out of the country---.

There's not a single country on the planet, that pointed fingers at India on Feb 26, for violating Pakistan's sovereignty. Even Christian Fair, till date practically cries herself hoarse that she 'wishes' India had bombed us to bits. US wanted us to 'de-escalate'. Even the 'brotherly' nation of Iran was issuing threats of committing attacks on Pakistani soil right after. Heck, even China did not issue any 'threats' to India on 26th, instead had called upon both countries to 'exercise restraint' - alongside EU and France. Our Arab brothers were inviting Sushma Swaraj to speak at OIC conference just prior to the strikes and literally stayed mum on the day of 26th Feb, 2019. There was a heck a lot of diplomatic pressure on Pakistan to just 'accept' the strikes and not do anything. (I actually used Google to specifically make sure that my claim above is dead right. Feel free to do that same, enter the dates and see statements from all countries on 26th Feb)

We really had no one in our corner on that day, except ourselves. And for once, Pakistan did what it does absolutely best when faced with dire consequences and pushed against the wall. That cornered tiger syndrome is pretty f'n real, if you ask me.

And while no one country had anticipated Pakistan to respond. Not even India. We did come back forcefully and PAF's response was actually measured as per damage caused and gave a surprise to not just the Indians, but to friends and foes alike. Where's the cowardice in taking war directly to an enemy that is multiples of time bigger than you in tech, size and practically had the world siding with it? And to make sure to land a punch, that it had to withdraw an entire arm of its armed forces from the fight. When was the last time a self declared major-power of the region withdrew an 'entire' arm of their armed forces on day 'one' and instead resorted to a sub conventional threat, only out of fear of unbearable losses?

India did, what the entire world until that day anticipated Pakistan would do, if faced with a massive conventional strike. They have managed to subvert the strategic calculus of a multitude of nations, in the aftermath of this.

And Pakistan and Pakistanis really need to stop forgetting lessons learnt in the time of hardship.

Once again, read the piece 'Hit and Run' by DCAS Ops of IAF, where he clearly puts it to his own leadership that when they think about firing SOW at Pakistan, they'd know that similar capability exists with the other side just as much. They have this realization burnt into their minds now.

 

[NA71]

The real problem is we have discussed 27/2 again and again in different threads ...hundreds of posts and still we see a new thread every 2nd day..... buhat ho gaya 27/2 ...leave it for some time.

Focus on 26/2 shall we?

 

[SIPRA]

There's not a single country on the planet, that pointed fingers at India on Feb 26, for violating Pakistan's sovereignty. Even Christian Fair, till date practically cries herself hoarse that she 'wishes' India had bombed us to bits. US wanted us to 'de-escalate'. Even the 'brotherly' nation of Iran was issuing threats of committing attacks on Pakistani soil right after. Heck, even China did not issue any 'threats' to India on 26th, instead had called upon both countries to 'exercise restraint' - alongside EU and France. Our Arab brothers were inviting Sushma Swaraj to speak at OIC conference just prior to the strikes and literally stayed mum on the day of 26th Feb, 2019. There was a heck a lot of diplomatic pressure on Pakistan to just 'accept' the strikes and not do anything.

We really had no one in our corner on that day, except ourselves. And for once, Pakistan did what it does absolutely best when faced with dire consequences and pushed against the wall. That cornered tiger syndrome is pretty f'n real, if you ask me.

And while no one country had anticipated Pakistan to respond. Not even India. We did come back forcefully and PAF's response was actually measured as per damage caused and gave a surprise to not just the Indians, but to friends and foes alike. And Pakistan and Pakistanis really need to stop forgetting lessons learnt in the time of hardship.

Excellent post. Appreciate it.

 

[Mumm-Ra]

Listen buddy, Pakistan is not America or China. Know Pakistan's position in today's world first! Our economy is all bottom low and even the ummah chumma have turned blind eye towards Pakistan. Pakistan would be more effected by a month or even week long war as it would be almost impossible to recover.
Shooting down 10 IAF fighters and that in their own territory would be an act of war with no side stopping! If someone slaps you, you dont respond with beating him to death but a punch would be more then enough.
What PAF did was send a strong message to India and the result was in their humiliation and a bloody nose.


Some Pakistanis are more delusional then Indians. apni ap ko super power sumajtay hai or india ko chutiya!

Think dispassionately. Pakistan is not China or US but neither is India those tow things. Even after shooting down of their Mig, India, reported on this forum, was going for a missile strike against us. We thwarted it by threatening three times more destruction. So our shooting down of Mig, reported shooting down of an SU-30, bombing their facilities and locking of their planes did not had the intended effect of keeping India. We simply showed our capabilities and did not press the full advantage of these capabilities. Understand that no body is going to war in South Asia any time soon.

Most of the members in this forum as pretty convinced that India will again try to conduct a similar operation. News and statements of their policy makers have also mentioned that now use of air power is accepted form of "punishing Pakistan". Had we downed 8-10 IAF planes, this perception in the Indian circles would have vanished. There would be no talk of use of IAF in any scenario unless total war. PAF was dealt a very strong hand in 27th feb but it did not get the full advantage of cowing down the Indians once and for all.

 

[SIPRA]

Focus on 26/2 shell we?

We shall focus on that which generates on the tails of Sanghis and Bhakts.

 

[NA71]

We shall focus on that which generates on the tails of Sanghis and Bhakts.

good one.

 

[Mumm-Ra]

Indian Military is in a shock, even without bombing of their depots/HQ and downing of their aircrafts.

Think rationally.
Did you see the video in which PAF showed the bomb targeting Indian depot, but in final stages it veered off to the left and fell onto green habitat ?
Don't you think PAF could have destroyed all ground targets also, since they were locked on too ? Then why did all bombs fell in un-populated areas ?

On the other hand, did you consider why is the fire from PA on LOC so accurate that it actually kills Indian soldiers/officers and destroys their infrastructure?

The answer lies within the Qs.

Killing military personal was not the aim and hence PAF was right in veering off the bombs into the green area. However, India had crossed international border and bombed KPK. The IAF aircrafts that were locked should have been downed. That was fair game.

 

[Mrc]

U can't put down 9 aircraft in lieu of 4 trees and sit back. Retaliation in that case is guaranteed .. U need take enemy airforce using cruise missiles than before they can retaliate


The next escalation might as well be heading that way .. And would be justified but such response was uncalled for after balakot


However if indians do escalate again u pretty much won't have any other choice but to give dispropriate response and prepare for nuclear exchange

U donot fight bullet to bullet shooting war with larger enemy that's rediculously wrong
People here are misguided mostly by an American drankard whose drunkan rants can b heard day n night


I would like our members to study rashidun wars and Ganges khan initial compaigns to see how u fight larger enemies

U take the initiative and always keep other side chasing You u have to dominate escalation ledder

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

bombed AJK

KPK*

 

[El Sidd]

KPK*

and then you like posts about some restored 'honor'?

i guess you condone only honor killings when it involves a woman

 

[newb3e]

girra daytay modi ki chiitta nikal jaati sanghi pagal hojataya khooni darindun ki turhan shor sharaba kartay!

 

[The Accountant]

Listen buddy, Pakistan is not America or China. Know Pakistan's position in today's world first! Our economy is all bottom low and even the ummah chumma have turned blind eye towards Pakistan. Pakistan would be more effected by a month or even week long war as it would be almost impossible to recover.
Shooting down 10 IAF fighters and that in their own territory would be an act of war with no side stopping! If someone slaps you, you dont respond with beating him to death but a punch would be more then enough.
What PAF did was send a strong message to India and the result was in their humiliation and a bloody nose.


Some Pakistanis are more delusional then Indians. apni ap ko super power sumajtay hai or india ko chutiya!

Sir hola haath rakhn ,,, aap ny tu itni gandi ly li fan boys ki ... But no matter what you say fan boys will remain fan boys and haters of IK will keep on hating no matter what he achieve and no matter he is fighting against all the odds

 

[Ultima Thule]

Killing military personal was not the aim and hence PAF was right in veering off the bombs into the green area. However, India had crossed international border and bombed AJK. The IAF aircrafts that were locked should have been downed. That was fair game.

You know what's is the international procedure of enemy's jets interceptions in peace time,we were not in involved in any kind of major war with India at the time of skirmish

 

[Mumm-Ra]

U can't put down 9 aircraft in lieu of 4 trees and sit back. Retaliation in that case is guaranteed .. U need take enemy airforce using cruise missiles than before they can retaliate


The next escalation might as well be heading that way .. And would be justified but such response was uncalled for after balakot


However if indians do escalate again u pretty much won't have any other choice but to give dispropriate response and prepare for nuclear exchange

U donot fight bullet to bullet shooting war with larger enemy that's rediculously wrong
People here are misguided mostly by an American drankard whose drunkan rants can b heard day n night


I would like our members to study rashidun wars and Ganges khan initial compaigns to see how u fight larger enemies

U take the initiative and always keep other side chasing You u have to dominate escalation ledder

They did not intend to bomb trees, they intended to bomb buildings full of people. But granted your point is valid, since they hadn't caused any loss of life on the ground PAF took steps to ensure no one was harmed in their facilities. I am sure that had they managed to cause loss of life, those bombs would not have hot green patches in their bases.

However, the IAF planes coming to challenge you were fair game. They could have been hit. We would have delivered a stronger message. India was forced to look towards missile attack anyway. It's not like they willingly diffused the situation after 27th feb.

You know what's is the international procedure of enemy's jets interceptions in peace time,we were not in involved in any kind of major war with India at the time of skirmish

This was a military operation. You were not sending them garlands. But I would appreciate if you could share the link of such procedure. Would definitely help in advancing my knowledge. thanks