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PAF locked on 9 shoot only two...PAF official....0n 27 Feb....

Totally agree. Why the hell PAF would not shoot all these indian jets is beyond any logic. In fact, this attitude of PAF top brass is extremely worrying as it literally displays a "Defeatist" mindset. And that is why even today, despite all the humiliation, the IAF and the indian Army is still putting propaganda out there. Now just imagine, if PAF would have shot 9-Fighter jets - the whole indian military would have been shell shocked, and it would have literally taken them years to recover from such a shock. I am very, very disappointed - PAF should never have disclosed this as this statement will work against them.
Indian Military is in a shock, even without bombing of their depots/HQ and downing of their aircrafts.

Think rationally.
Did you see the video in which PAF showed the bomb targeting Indian depot, but in final stages it veered off to the left and fell onto green habitat ?
Don't you think PAF could have destroyed all ground targets also, since they were locked on too ? Then why did all bombs fell in un-populated areas ?

On the other hand, did you consider why is the fire from PA on LOC so accurate that it actually kills Indian soldiers/officers and destroys their infrastructure?

The answer lies within the Qs.
 
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Whatever PAF’s mistakes were leading up to 27th, not shooting down 9 of their jets wasn’t one. And trust me, even the sudden appearance of Block 2 Bravo in high numbers, with such speed is them fixing one glaring mistake. :)
 
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Very reliable sources are saying that 6 were shot down, but PAF kept quiet about the 3 m2k & 1 su30 shot down on the iok side since the PAF didn't want to appear as the aggressor, rather, as the responder to aggression. abhi none done & the other su30 were fair game to announce since they were in Pakistani airspace albeit, the su30 crashed on the iok side...
 
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As we were not at war and did not want to escalate, PAF decided not to shoot down enemy aircraft. These were probably the rules of engagement.

one also has to understand that a lock does not translate to a kill. If we had increased the escalation there were chances of losing some of our assets. This would be pointless as we met our mission objective

KV
 
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Vur Mehmedim! vur ki; bahtım uyansın.
Tekbir sadaları, arşa dayansın,
Sen ki; çelikleşmiş imansın,
Vur Mehmedim!
Hak için, Allah için, Mazlumlardan yükselen o 'Ah' için.


Sen tarihsin, sen zafersin, sen bayraksın, sen vatansın
Vur Mehmedim! vur ki; Dünya utansın.



Shoot Mehmed! Hit that my fate wakes up
Let the Tekbir reach the Arsh,
You are the Iman solidified into steel,
Strike Mehmed!
For Hak, for Allah, for that “Ah” coming out of the Mazlum.

You are the history, you are the victory, you are the flag, you are the homeland
Shoot Mehmed! Hit that the world gets ashamed.

*Few lines from Seyfeddin Karahocagil penned in connection to the Cyprus Liberation War
**Transliteration by this Fakir
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A Turkish soldier is affectionately called Mehmed/Mehmet
 
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Wow, Pakistani airforce and army seems to be overwhelmingly ahead of the Indian at the moment. Why wait for the Rafael's to come and somewhat even the odds ? After India's Kashmir accession move , wont this be the best time for Pakistan army to undertake operations in kashmir ? What's holding Pakistan back ?
I know the modi government is amassing a lot of arms and its stated aim is to take the rest of kashmir. And with its track record , modi probably will try something.
Celebrating Kashmir day wont get Pakistan Kashmir.
 
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Wow, Pakistani airforce and army seems to be overwhelmingly ahead of the Indian at the moment. Why wait for the Rafael's to come and somewhat even the odds ? After India's Kashmir accession move , wont this be the best time for Pakistan army to undertake operations in kashmir ? What's holding Pakistan back ?
I know the modi government is amassing a lot of arms and its stated aim is to take the rest of kashmir. And with its track record , modi probably will try something.
Celebrating Kashmir day wont get Pakistan Kashmir.
And why you waiting more than 70 o take our part of Kashmir, come on get it, and it all about tactics and we are responsible country not war mongering country like India, we want peaceful solution of Kashmir issue unlike India who want a fight over Kashmir issue
 
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Some Pakistanis are more delusional then Indians. apni ap ko super power sumajtay hai or india ko chutiya!

Hi,

That shows a total lack of understanding of the region---.

India was in no position for a full scale attack on pakistan or any other form of escalation.

Its economy is on the brink of collapse---. Any retaliation on their part would have seen foreign capitol flying out of the country---.

Wow, Pakistani airforce and army seems to be overwhelmingly ahead of the Indian at the moment. Why wait for the Rafael's to come and somewhat even the odds ? After India's Kashmir accession move , wont this be the best time for Pakistan army to undertake operations in kashmir ? What's holding Pakistan back ?
I know the modi government is amassing a lot of arms and its stated aim is to take the rest of kashmir. And with its track record , modi probably will try something.
Celebrating Kashmir day wont get Pakistan Kashmir.


COWARDICE---?

Very reliable sources are saying that 6 were shot down, but PAF kept quiet about the 3 m2k & 1 su30 shot down on the iok side since the PAF didn't want to appear as the aggressor, rather, as the responder to aggression. abhi none done & the other su30 were fair game to announce since they were in Pakistani airspace albeit, the su30 crashed on the iok side...

Hi,

India was the aggressor---. India crossed the line of control---india struck a school and killed 300 children---.

American bloggers on multiple sites declaring the 26th action as an act of war by india over pakistan---.

Pakistan military had an extremely poor understanding of what occurred and how to have used it to its advantage---.

Gen Ghafoor wanted to look CLEVER and cute in front of the world media---.

There were more cowards in the prime minister's cabinet meeting than brave men and women---.
 
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Mastankhan, or maybe people in governments have a clearer idea of each others capabilities than people in internet chatrooms ?
 
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Totally agree. Why the hell PAF would not shoot all these indian jets is beyond any logic. In fact, this attitude of PAF top brass is extremely worrying as it literally displays a "Defeatist" mindset. And that is why even today, despite all the humiliation, the IAF and the indian Army is still putting propaganda out there. Now just imagine, if PAF would have shot 9-Fighter jets - the whole indian military would have been shell shocked, and it would have literally taken them years to recover from such a shock. I am very, very disappointed - PAF should never have disclosed this as this statement will work against them.

As long as secular elitists control the PAF, this is what it will always come down to. They love America more than Americans and in doing so have lost their own self-respect and self-esteem. Such men can never be true warriors for Pakistan. Just more little Ayub Khans running around boasting US technology that's all.

A nation is built by people who love their own selves, who have an ideology and who fight for it.

Sorry, someone has to say it, @MastanKhan can't be the only one seeing the ball here.
 
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Listen buddy, Pakistan is not America or China. Know Pakistan's position in today's world first! Our economy is all bottom low and even the ummah chumma have turned blind eye towards Pakistan. Pakistan would be more effected by a month or even week long war as it would be almost impossible to recover.
Shooting down 10 IAF fighters and that in their own territory would be an act of war with no side stopping! If someone slaps you, you dont respond with beating him to death but a punch would be more then enough.
What PAF did was send a strong message to India and the result was in their humiliation and a bloody nose.


Some Pakistanis are more delusional then Indians. apni ap ko super power sumajtay hai or india ko chutiya!

Hi,

Cowardice has its own place---.

Here the enemy was running scared of PAF and PAF was running scared of the what if factor---.

See cowards are not made---. They inherit their cowardice and it stays with them for generations---.

Like the Ayub Khan factor---china lay bare Kashmir for pakistan to take---and even though he was a general---his eternal cowardice deep down inside of him rose up to the top at the critical moment---.

If you are so worried about the image---would you ever be able to push the nuc button if it came to that---?

Seems like another thread ban is coming---.
 
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Hi,

Cowardice has its own place---.

Have you ever stuck a knife in someone---an actual knife---decades ago---I have---and I saw that big bad gangster whimpering like a bi-tch whither away---and that was also with his knife---.

Here the enemy was running scared of PAF and PAF was running scared of the what if factor---.

See cowards are not made---. They inherit their cowardice and it stays with them for generations---.

Like the Ayub Khan factor---china lay bare Kashmir for pakistan to take---and even though he was a general---his eternal cowardice deep down inside of him rose up to the top at the critical moment---.

If you are so worried about the image---would you ever be able to push the nuc button if it came to that---?

Seems like another thread ban is coming---.
I heard they had their finger on the nuke button. If PAF were to lose 1-2 jets, they were going to launch them.
 
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Why Should we even risk the war when escalation from India's side was just for the Modi's Election. Like Previous 'Surgical Strikes', India was hoping we won't do Jackshit but they didn't knew we had Imran Khan and we replied to them promptly. We locked their Miliitary Targets from Inside our LOC, We Locked their Jets from inside LOC, We shot one of their Jet (SU 30) which was inside Indian Airspace which they didn't expected, We used F16s with AMRAAM to shoot their jets which they didn't expected. What more you need, We surprised them that's all we should care. Air Chief had hinted recently that restraint may not be shown next time.
And BTW, it was the fault of SU 30 and Mig 21 which led to them being shot down. SU 30 tried to lock SL Hasan's F 16 which threatened our jets so had to be shot down. Mig 21 of Abhi came too close and had to be taken out. If same reactions would had been given by 2 M2Ks, 1 SU 30 and 4 Mig 21s then they would had been taken out too.
 
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