PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[The Terminator]

so, Shiakh sb would also be right on J-20C

J-10C was a news so that's why I always believed in the Pindi Boy due to his extensive relations in Pindi . But J-20C is more of a speculation, a wish list. If you listen to his words carefully you would come to this conclusion.

 

[The Terminator]

Guys can we please leave the range of the PL-15 out of this, no more on the TVC engine which has been proved to be false already and just focus on the topic at hand!












Does anyone if the cockpit has bluetooth connectivity to the pilot's Iphone or Samsung so he can download Kenny Loggins;

Sorry no provision for apple iphone compatibility, just Huawei only and android as extra option

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So it seems like the next batch is almost ready to be delivered

 

[Windjammer]

So it seems like the next batch is almost ready to be delivered

It's not difficult to read their registration numbers on the tail.....these are images of the first batch.

 

[MIRauf]

It looks like more of a wash service than a ceremonial water salute. Anti-icing Chemical layers are sprayed on planes before take off but it's entirely for yet another purpose.

Yes, after a Maritime Mission, it was worded as such in case if you missed it or didn't get it.

 

[sheik]

The dual rack is compatible with both PL-15 and PL-10. The real question is whether there is enough space for two dual racks. If so, a 6 PL-15/2 PL-10 loadout is possible.

PLA is developing triple racks as shown in some patent applications.

 

[lcloo]

If there is urgency in adding more hard point/pylons, British had a weird answer with their Jaguar strike jet and English Electric Lightning (export version).

 

[White privilege]

If there is urgency in adding more hard point/pylons, British had a weird answer with their Jaguar strike jet and English Electric Lightning (export version).

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That's quite cartoonish, but again Brits built a bomb literally called the Disney bomb.

 

[SQ8]

That's quite cartoonish, but again Brits built a bomb literally called the Disney bomb.
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When cartoons were actually educational with adult emotions and taught us life lessons. Only millennials can relate.

 

[Readerdefence]

Has the question of whether or not the fuel tanks can be jettisoned in combat been resolved?

Additionally - has there ever been any pictures of confirmation that the inner pylons can carry Air-to-Air missiles?

The most logical load out would be central fuel tank - jammers on the fuselage hard points and 2 x Dual Racks with PL15s/SD10s(ie 8 BVRs) and like you suggest with PL-10 on the outer hard points. It is the ideal load-out to duke out a BVR fight with the Rafales given how many BVRs the Rafale can carry.

Let's see - i was surprised to see the picture of the JF17 Block III with 5 x PL-15 missiles as part of it's induction ceremony - so the PAF seems to have moved on from the "2 BVRs missiles are enough mentality". It would be odd if PAF inducted the J10C that can only carry 4 BVRs when it is planning to do more with the JF17 Block III.

Hi Ali I think j10 engage 4 at a time so in BVR I believe after sending 4 towards your opponent you don’t have time to re engage as the opponent must have fired towards you too in the meanwhile
so if j10 can simultaneously fire and engage all BRV I think figure of 4 is enough at the moment
your input will be appreciated
thank you

 

[LeGenD]

Sure the patent is filed but I am sure F-22 raptor is first to use that. Plus, generation and generation upgrade. The same radar reflective today is surely not the one used on 80s. Same as the stealth of F-117 in the 90s is no equivalent to today on F-35 and J-20.

EA-6B Prowler was the first aircraft to receive it.

Source: DoD

https://www.quora.com › Why-is-th...
Why is the inside of the windshield of the EA-6B Prowler lined in gold?

In case of jet fighters, it is optional for F-16 and F-15 variants but standard feature of F-22A.

Source: Key.aero

Source: Hamid Faraz

F-35A/B/C received a new type of canopy coating.

F-22A canopy coating includes Indium Tin Oxide (ITO).

F-35A/B/C canopy coating includes Aluminium Doped Zinc Oxide (AZO)

AZO is relatively durable (greater resistance to corrosion).

Gold plating for radar reflectivity has been used since the mid 80s. Boeing filed a patent for gold plated canopy to reflect radar rays in the late 60s.

This.

According to US media, one feature of the J-10CE that has attracted considerable attention is the fighter's "golden canopy", which is very rare on fourth-generation aircraft, but in the J-20 and the US F-22 "Raptor". "I've seen it on a fighter jet. Under certain lighting conditions, the canopy of the J-10CE appears golden yellow due to an indium tin oxide conductive film coating between the optical glass layers. This color coating is mainly used to scatter radio waves from the cockpit to reduce the fighter's radar cross-section.

A window member composed of a transparent resin or inorganic glass with a transparent conducting film such as gold or ITO (indium tin oxide) coated thereon, is used as an electromagnetic wave shield window for stealth aircraft. Applying such transparent conducting film enables, while maintaining transparency to visible radiation, both a radio wave stealth property which scatters radio waves in various directions so as not to be detected by radar, and an electromagnetic wave shield property which prevents harmful electromagnetic waves, except for visible radiation, from invasion into an aircraft.

This feature is one of several new technologies introduced in Pakistan, the first country in the region to benefit from the technology. As the J-10CE is expected to become an elite fighter in the Pakistan Air Force in the coming years, its golden canopy symbolizes the aircraft's status.

Err...

See above.

This was posted before and the source is following:

Why Pakistan’s New J-10C Fighters Have F-22-Style ‘Golden’ Stealth Canopies

In the 13 years between the entry into service of the first J-10A fighters in 2005, and the latest most advanced variant the J-10C in the spring of 2018, the design has

militarywatchmagazine.com

For general knowledge:

New J-10B fighter equipped with gold tinted cockpit canopy

A new photo of J-10B fighter jet in test fight was unveiled on the internet in China. The photo shows that the new J-10B fighter flying in snow has grey coating, indicating it’s in service, and gold tinted cockpit canopy, which should be stealthy, just like J-20’s canopy or F-22’s. Besides, this...

www.china-arms.com

 

[ghazi52]

What a beauty... ....

 

[The Terminator]

Chinese forces PLAAF uses metric system. Whereas most of the air forces still use imperials in aviation. What system does J-10CP follow??

@Deino

 

[SQ8]

EA-6B Prowler was the first aircraft to receive it.

Source: DoD

https://www.quora.com › Why-is-th...
Why is the inside of the windshield of the EA-6B Prowler lined in gold?

In case of jet fighters, it is optional for F-16 and F-15 variants but standard feature of F-22A.

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Source: Key.aero

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Source: Hamid Faraz


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F-35A/B/C received a new type of canopy coating.

F-22A canopy coating includes Indium Tin Oxide (ITO).

F-35A/B/C canopy coating includes Aluminium Doped Zinc Oxide (AZO)

AZO is relatively durable (greater resistance to corrosion).


This.


Err...

See above.

This was posted before and the source is following:

Why Pakistan’s New J-10C Fighters Have F-22-Style ‘Golden’ Stealth Canopies

In the 13 years between the entry into service of the first J-10A fighters in 2005, and the latest most advanced variant the J-10C in the spring of 2018, the design has

militarywatchmagazine.com

For general knowledge:

New J-10B fighter equipped with gold tinted cockpit canopy

A new photo of J-10B fighter jet in test fight was unveiled on the internet in China. The photo shows that the new J-10B fighter flying in snow has grey coating, indicating it’s in service, and gold tinted cockpit canopy, which should be stealthy, just like J-20’s canopy or F-22’s. Besides, this...

www.china-arms.com

The claim that the J-10CP is the first time Pakistan has had access or use of this technology is incorrect

 

[NA71]

Chinese Air Combat J10c vs J16

 

[LeGenD]

The claim that the J-10CP is the first time Pakistan has had access or use of this technology is incorrect

Absolutely, Sir.

I do not find MWM reporting to be well-researched very often. It needs better contributors.