PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[Zarvan]

 

[Zarvan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1495342161826500615

 

[Big_bud]

Order of J10CE is not for 36 aircraft. actual requirement is for 54 (three squadrons) and extra Six aircraft for CSS.

total 60 which does not include half life attrition purchase ..which i think will be in future

actually its the same order requirement put forth for the F-16s block 52 in mid 2005 inPAF force structure.

For the first time PAF pilots will have another aircraft comparable to F16s. It would be interesting to see whether J10c is able to break the love affair of PAF pilots with F16s or not? I am sure we will see a shift where pilots will talk fondly about the J10s like they used to about F16s! Fondly going on and on telling its stories!

 

[TopGun786]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1495342161826500615

The guy talks sensibly... Very rare for an Indian.

 

[Talon]

Besides it is still the second best fighter in the air force (for air to air)

Umm second best? J-10 hasn't even landed yet ( no evidence so far ) and is no where being operational and you have decided to call it better than an aircraft that has been backbone of the air force for few decades now?

J-10C makes F-16C look like a joke. Pakistan don't need their 10 F-16C when they get 100 J-10C.

On a serious note, please support your claim with facts instead of making illogical comments of 100 J-10s > 10 F-16s.


People need to realise that be it an F-7 or an F-16, all these aircrafts have and are serving the air force for so many years. And these all aircrafts are YOURS so why the constant hate towards specific platforms? I am sure after certain years you would be bullying JF-17 and J-10s as well without any proper logic.

Why does the service years of an aircraft matter to you if that particular aircraft is still performing much better than your enemy's latest fighters? Do not forget, it was viper that saved your a**** in 2019.

Why this debate anyways? Professionals at PAF don't engage in these useless talks so why us? This is totally waste of time and nothing else.

Most experts here agree that F-16 and J-10 are at par with eachother. Both have their Perks and they are here to compliment eachother not go against eachother.

If you want to engage in these debates, please stay with F-16 v Su30 or J-10 v Rafale.

 

[White privilege]

The guy talks sensibly... Very rare for an Indian.

He also called the IAF radar picture evidence "circumstantial" .Shiv Aroor attached more weight to Gen Ghafoor's presser where he mentioned 2 pilots at first.I am surprised they have not been lynched by now....

 

[Windjammer]

Umm second best? J-10 hasn't even landed yet ( no evidence so far ) and is no where being operational and you have decided to call it better than an aircraft that has been backbone of the air force for few decades now?


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On a serious note, please support your claim with facts instead of making illogical comments of 100 J-10s > 10 F-16s.


People need to realise that be it an F-7 or an F-16, all these aircrafts have and are serving the air force for so many years. And these all aircrafts are YOURS so why the constant hate towards specific platforms? I am sure after certain years you would be bullying JF-17 and J-10s as well without any proper logic.

Why does the service years of an aircraft matter to you if that particular aircraft is still performing much better than your enemy's latest fighters? Do not forget, it was viper that saved your a**** in 2019.

Why this debate anyways? Professionals at PAF don't engage in these useless talks so why us? This is totally waste of time and nothing else.

Most experts here agree that F-16 and J-10 are at par with eachother. Both have their Perks and they are here to compliment eachother not go against eachother.

If you want to engage in these debates, please stay with F-16 v Su30 or J-10 v Rafale.

A former RAF Tornado RIO, who participated in the Gulf War, told me that once he was monitoring a NATO plus USAF ordnance delivering exercise. He was on the observation tower near the firing range, at the end an F-16 was asked to do a flypast.... according to him the Viper flew some 25 Feet from the tower with afterburner.... He said he had flown in combat over Iraq, seen the likes of F-15, Hornets, Mirage 2000, but nothing gave him the goosebumps like F-16 did that day.

 

[That Guy]

Umm second best? J-10 hasn't even landed yet ( no evidence so far ) and is no where being operational and you have decided to call it better than an aircraft that has been backbone of the air force for few decades now?


View attachment 817009

On a serious note, please support your claim with facts instead of making illogical comments of 100 J-10s > 10 F-16s.


People need to realise that be it an F-7 or an F-16, all these aircrafts have and are serving the air force for so many years. And these all aircrafts are YOURS so why the constant hate towards specific platforms? I am sure after certain years you would be bullying JF-17 and J-10s as well without any proper logic.

Why does the service years of an aircraft matter to you if that particular aircraft is still performing much better than your enemy's latest fighters? Do not forget, it was viper that saved your a**** in 2019.

Why this debate anyways? Professionals at PAF don't engage in these useless talks so why us? This is totally waste of time and nothing else.

Most experts here agree that F-16 and J-10 are at par with eachother. Both have their Perks and they are here to compliment eachother not go against eachother.

If you want to engage in these debates, please stay with F-16 v Su30 or J-10 v Rafale.

This is correct.

On topic: another added benefit of having the J-10Cs is that they'll give PAF a good chance to train with and against a fighter that's very similar in capabilities to the Rafale.

If India doesn't get more rafales soon, which this thread has established that it won't for year's to come, then they really will have no choice but to buy another fighter type, which will mean even more logistical nightmares for the IAF. They can't get the numbers advantage for the Rafales due to the long waiting list, and buying yet another fighter type is adding to costs for India.

IAF really is stuck in a rut.

 

[CHI RULES]

This is correct.

On topic: another added benefit of having the J-10Cs is that they'll give PAF a good chance to train with and against a fighter that's very similar in capabilities to the Rafale.

If India doesn't get more rafales soon, which this thread has established that it won't for year's to come, then they really will have no choice but to buy another fighter type, which will mean even more logistical nightmares for the IAF. They can't get the numbers advantage for the Rafales due to the long waiting list, and buying yet another fighter type is adding to costs for India.

IAF really is stuck in a rut.

One should not forget that India has other choices i.e Super Sukhoi project to upgrade existing SU30s as well as getting some old ones from Russia and getting them upgraded as well as Mig 29s. IAF has learned a lot from previous skirmish including secured data link as well as improved A2A missiles with better ranges.

It is just likeout out of no where no Pak getting significant nos of J10cs from China in short span of time, The only hurdle is perhaps cost issues for Indo-Russia.

 

[Princeps Senatus]

For the first time PAF pilots will have another aircraft comparable to F16s. It would be interesting to see whether J10c is able to break the love affair of PAF pilots with F16s or not? I am sure we will see a shift where pilots will talk fondly about the J10s like they used to about F16s! Fondly going on and on telling its stories!

Probably not, nothing is as light nimble and agile as F-16

 

[NA71]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1495342161826500615

Zarvan ney Vishnu ko bhi ghera howa hy

 

[Areesh]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1495342161826500615

Waisai zarvan. Bura na maana bhai

Laikin ho tum bhi meera ki tarah poorai attention seeker

We don't need validation from pajeets that we keep going to them to ask their opinion about our acquisitions

 

[Deino]

A bit bigger and modified

 

[Danish Moazzam]

One added advantage of J-10 is the sheer number of AC that the Chinese operate, They have grilled the plane and it will be updated as the mainstay single engine for PLAAF.
Second advantage is in case of combat, PAF can always loan a few to boost number and establish deterrence and plan aggression.
This flexibility is not available for any other AC. Even JF-17 does not provide that option. So a very sensible and calculated buy. 60 is a good enough number to train and establish the tactics and keep enough pilots that can fly this plane in combat at any given time.
Integration with the chinese sub-system is another advantage. These are the things that IAF cannot do even after spending 10+ billion $

 

[Deino]

Another one ...