PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[Signalian]

The J-10A had little problems with the Gripens in the 2017 and 2018 Falcon Strike exercises. The J-10C in 2019 reportedly had a very easy time with the JAS-39. The J-10A and J-10C use Chinese radar and missile exclusively.

The J-10s, even the A version, can handle the Gripen with relative ease.

You are comparing J-10C with Gripen NG / E ?

 

[GiantPanda]

You are comparing J-10C with Gripen NG / E ?

Thailand used the Gripen C/D in the Falcon Strike exercises. Who actually uses the Gripen NG / E -- Sweden?

No exercise with Euro countries (except Russia) yet.

 

[SD 10]

#DGISPR just called induction of J-10 C as "nothing special" but a routine matter.
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what does that means now?

 

[Goritoes]

How about three-engines ?

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PN should form its Naval Fighter school first and compete with PAF for Top Gun.

That's considered Cheating in the real world.

 

[Signalian]

Thailand used the Gripen C/D in the Falcon Strike exercises.

If J-10C was the most advanced version of J-10, then competing with high end version of Gripen (NG/E) should have made more sense to prove J-10s superiority. In any case, Gripen isn't a benchmark for J-10.
Thai AF may buy F-35s rather than going for E's.

Who actually uses the Gripen NG / E -- Sweden?

Search Saab's website.

That's considered Cheating in the real world.

Hawww...no fighter jets in space. That's sad.

 

[GiantPanda]

If J-10C was the most advanced version of J-10, then competing with high end version of Gripen (NG/E) should have made more sense to prove J-10s superiority. In any case, Gripen isn't a benchmark for J-10.
Thai AF may buy F-35s rather than going for E's.

Search Saab's website.

The Falcon Strike exercises included Gripen C/D, J-11A, J-10A and J-10C. This is data that a PLAAF pilot Li Zhonghua revealed at Northwestern Polytechnical University in 2019 on the Falcon Strike exercises.

Comparison with Gripen E or F-35 or any other fighter would be just conjecture.

 

[NA71]

DG ISPR basically avoided J10C topic in presser. Neither gave any solid affirmation nor declined the induction ..... This makes Shaikh sb claim little diluted

 

[Zarvan]

what does that means now?

That means we are going for J-10 C and it's a regular normal thing to do. India bought Rafale and we answered with J-10. Just a regular thing. Or a normal progression nothing very special or out of this world.

 

[SIPRA]

DG ISPR basically avoided J10C topic in presser. Neither gave any solid affirmation nor declined the induction ..... This makes Shaikh sb claim little diluted

May be, he is less informed than Sheikh Sahib.

 

[Signalian]

The Falcon Strike exercises included Gripen C/D, J-11A, J-10A and J-10C. This is data that a PLAAF pilot Li Zhonghua revealed at Northwestern Polytechnical University in 2019 on the Falcon Strike exercises.

Comparison with Gripen E or F-35 or any other fighter would be just conjecture.

Gripen E isn't stealth or 5th gen like F-35, both are different classes. Gripen has come a long way towards NG/E.
The J-10 in PAF service would be susceptible to undergo upgrades due to technological leaps in avionics and weapon systems. Its yet to be seen if PAF sticks to Chinese systems due to contractual agreements or gets a free hand to experiment with home grown or western systems (e.g. Italian). However, J-10C pitted against latest variants of 4.5 gen aircrafts would have been more concise. A 4.5 gen Vs a 5th gen turns into a different ball game altogether.

 

[The Eagle]

What DGISPR said in regard to J-10CP acquisition; is the same thing that many of us tried to convince few members here with asking for details/presser/media spotlight and whatever kind of noise. Its just that normal and let's keep the bar high.

 

[Signalian]

What DGISPR said in regard to J-10CP acquisition; is the same thing that many of us tried to convince few members here with asking for details/presser/media spotlight and whatever kind of noise. Its just that normal and let's keep the bar high.

We are only on the 70th page, please lets take it to 500 pages till end of Jan.

 

[The Eagle]

Gripen E isn't stealth or 5th gen like F-35, both are different classes. Gripen has come a long way towards NG/E.
The J-10 in PAF service would be susceptible to undergo upgrades due to technological leaps in avionics and weapon systems. Its yet to be seen if PAF sticks to Chinese systems due to contractual agreements or gets a free hand to experiment with home grown or western systems (e.g. Italian). However, J-10C pitted against latest variants of 4.5 gen aircrafts would have been more concise. A 4.5 gen Vs a 5th gen turns into a different ball game altogether.

I don't see any problem to use home grown solution. In-fact, both parties would have been working closely in this regard. Speaking of western system, may not be possible given what J-10C is for China i.e. F-16 Block 60 or 70 for UAE/US. Source Codes and then matting a western system, might cause some doubts of compromise but it depends if PAC can work around with something new. How about Spanish suit on JFT?

We are only on the 70th page, please lets take it to 500 pages till end of Jan.

Suggesting to throw more spinners into it? But yes, it should be at-least 500+ to make it interesting.

 

[NA71]

We are only on the 70th page, please lets take it to 500 pages till end of Jan.

Sir. if it is just a normal proceeding ...why are we discussing it in multiple threads? Induction of new platform is normal?

 

[GiantPanda]

Gripen E isn't stealth or 5th gen like F-35, both are different classes. Gripen has come a long way towards NG/E.
The J-10 in PAF service would be susceptible to undergo upgrades due to technological leaps in avionics and weapon systems. Its yet to be seen if PAF sticks to Chinese systems due to contractual agreements or gets a free hand to experiment with home grown or western systems (e.g. Italian). However, J-10C pitted against latest variants of 4.5 gen aircrafts would have been more concise. A 4.5 gen Vs a 5th gen turns into a different ball game altogether.

The J-10A and J-10C exercised against the Gripen C/D in Thailand. It didn't exercise against Gripen E in Sweden.