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Ty-5B to be exact. As good as PK-16LE.It is even possible, J-10C in future could fit with WS-15 engine once it got commissioned.
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Ty-5B to be exact. As good as PK-16LE.It is even possible, J-10C in future could fit with WS-15 engine once it got commissioned.
I think they heard you.Let the Omar speak please......
On a serious note; Chinese needs to understand that not everyone speaks or understands Chinese language. These videos or reporters at-least needs to come up with a solution to send the message across. For example in this vide, she speaks Chinese, the subtitles are Chinese and even Omar is allowed to speak with at-least sub-titles.
I will urge members that while sharing a regional language dubbed video on international discussion; please make sure that either it has English Sub-titles or written analysis be provided so that readers will at-least have the gist out of it.
yes & I think it was MiG-21...I believe he has some kills against the Soviets as well.
So in simple lay man terms the PAF pilot"Omar" said that J-10C's small size and reduced RCS along with passive sensors make it an ideal Assassin (the capability which PAF lacked previously) in the absence of an AEW&C support. It's great in BVR fights with great Radar and EW suite. Has some payload configuration issues though.Have to say I'm not sure about the authenticity and information from the video without the original sound from the interview. For all we know the pilot didn't say any of that, the one who make the video can put words in his mouth. But nevertheless, rough translation of the interview.
Video was uploaded on youtube on March-31-2021.
A famous PAF fighter pilot name "Omar" believe the most dangerous opponent from the join PLAAF and PAF Shaheen (Eagle) Air Exercise is the J-10C. In his opinion the J-10C is very impressive in certain situations. Especially adapted at sneaky attack when there is no AWACS support, even heavy weight fighters is having trouble dealing with it. But there are also shortcomings /problems with the J-10C. And he was very impressed with the advanced avionics and EW of the J-16 and the extremely powerful continuous maneuverability of it.
Omar is PAF 16th squadron leader who is a very experienced and skilled fighter pilot. Also holds the longest tenure of flying the JF-17 in the squadron. He also have a very good understanding of both the Eastern and western fighter jets because he flew western fighter jets including Saudi Arabia's F-15SA and Turkish F-16 in the past.
Omar stated J-10C is a very fearsome opponent. It can trace and track targets with just IRST with out turning on it's own radar and undetected by the opponents. So, J-10C can have a first shoot opportunity at it's opponents. And the J-10C radar is very advanced with it's radar signal reflection much smaller than the F-15SA. If can sneak attack enemy fighters if there were no AWACS support from the other side.
It's vertical climb rate and instant speed change is very good second only to F-16 compared to the same generation single engine fighter jets, better than Mirage-2000 and JF-17. It also equipped with PL-15 and Pl-10 and helmet mount target system that it can lock on target at a very exaggerated angle and shoot it's enemy down. It's instantaneous turn rate is also very good.
He think J-10C can improve on is need more hard-points for BVR AAM. Range is also a problem without conformal fuel tanks, not very good sustained turn rate. if J-10C can't kill it's opponent in the first 30 seconds of the dog fight, then it's a good chance for the opponent to fight back at that time.
According to TAI CEO. Fast University with collaboration of PAC/PAF is building TPFX (Turkish Pakistani fighter X, next gen/5th gen). Effectively fusing the project Azm and TAI TFX in one JV. And Obviously TAI is the leading developer here, closely working with PAC/FAST University with PAF's input.The next time Sheikh Rasheed Ahmad say JS-35 or JS-20 coming. I'm a believer!
China has a proud history of their heritage. The wording we used now is not much different from almost 2000 years ago. While Persian, Old Egypt wording has long wipe out over the times...IMHO Chinese seem to be the Saudis of the East . They wouldn't speak any other language than their own even if they are fluent in Urdu, French, German and English.
The only exception is business. When it comes to business, Chinese are one of the most hardworking, persistent and relentless marketeers. They would never let you slip out or go out of their communication radar and would keep in touch with you till eternity in whatever language you wish to talk to speak . We should learn from them.
Now with the arrival of the J 10C what will be their excuse if Rafael saw the dust, it was written in their 5000 old scripts French beauties are too lame?
On that day there was war.There is a thing called ROEs, you can't shoot down enemy aircraft that are in their own airspace and are not a threat to you. If you start firing indiscriminately, it escalates into open war. PAF knows better than the layman.
The future golden words of Modi: "Agar F-35 veeman hota . . . . ."
PAF is turning into a formidable force.Maybe this time he will say "agar Pakistan ke pass J10 na hota ....."
He retired from PAF military service long time ago. Otherwise his service time would have exceeded Sohail Aman who was close to him in GD(P) course number. He is senior to the current and previous air chief.He is Director General, Security (DG Security), AHQ, Islamabad
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I believe he has some kills against the Soviets as well.
We are not the state of Israel. They have carte nlanche immunity to do whatever they please with noncompromising support from the US and EU. Comparing Pakistan with Israel is a great fallacy. Secondly, ( and this remains my firm belief) the fact that we had 8-9 of their ACs in our sights andchose to take only 2 out helped our narrative greatly. This was as much a military campaign as it was a narrative build up not only of us responding to an-aggression in a responsible manner but also within the ROEs. Going ape on the IAF may have gotten us more planes as trophies but the narrative game would have been lost and we would have been labelled as aggressors. 8t would have put IA, Modi, and IAF as sufferers of an,aggressive move with loss of lives and equipment. You did not see the aggression in Christine Fiarr's voice. That is a true reflection of the Western/US perception of us. The fact that we acted responsibly and stood within the ROEs gave us justification to respond go aggression on our soil.Israeli's can do them under the pretext of danger to their aircraft so can we if we had the balls at that time. What India could have done at that time send more aircraft to be shot down or lick their wounds or Modi could have lost the election or wait for the Rafael to show up or wait for the clouds to change colour. They had already launched the raid on our soil previously and we could easily have claimed we stopped them from raiding again. How cowards backed off from launching the Brahamos when some one told them you launch one and you get 3 ballistic lolly pops back.
Now with the arrival of the J 10C what will be their excuse if Rafael saw the dust, it was written in their 5000 old scripts French beauties are too lame?
Have to say I'm not sure about the authenticity and information from the video without the original sound from the interview. For all we know the pilot didn't say any of that, the one who make the video can put words in his mouth. But nevertheless, rough translation of the interview.
Video was uploaded on youtube on March-31-2021.
A famous PAF fighter pilot name "Omar" believe the most dangerous opponent from the join PLAAF and PAF Shaheen (Eagle) Air Exercise is the J-10C. In his opinion the J-10C is very impressive in certain situations. Especially adapted at sneaky attack when there is no AWACS support, even heavy weight fighters is having trouble dealing with it. But there are also shortcomings /problems with the J-10C. And he was very impressed with the advanced avionics and EW of the J-16 and the extremely powerful continuous maneuverability of it.
Omar is PAF 16th squadron leader who is a very experienced and skilled fighter pilot. Also holds the longest tenure of flying the JF-17 in the squadron. He also have a very good understanding of both the Eastern and western fighter jets because he flew western fighter jets including Saudi Arabia's F-15SA and Turkish F-16 in the past.
Omar stated J-10C is a very fearsome opponent. It can trace and track targets with just IRST with out turning on it's own radar and undetected by the opponents. So, J-10C can have a first shoot opportunity at it's opponents. And the J-10C radar is very advanced with it's radar signal reflection much smaller than the F-15SA. If can sneak attack enemy fighters if there were no AWACS support from the other side.
It's vertical climb rate and instant speed change is very good second only to F-16 compared to the same generation single engine fighter jets, better than Mirage-2000 and JF-17. It also equipped with PL-15 and Pl-10 and helmet mount target system that it can lock on target at a very exaggerated angle and shoot it's enemy down. It's instantaneous turn rate is also very good.
He think J-10C can improve on is need more hard-points for BVR AAM. Range is also a problem without conformal fuel tanks, not very good sustained turn rate. if J-10C can't kill it's opponent in the first 30 seconds of the dog fight, then it's a good chance for the opponent to fight back at that
Agreed to a large extant. But I would doubt the statement about sustained turn rate being inferior. The delta canard layout , coupled with fly by wire addresses that.Have to say I'm not sure about the authenticity and information from the video without the original sound from the interview. For all we know the pilot didn't say any of that, the one who make the video can put words in his mouth. But nevertheless, rough translation of the interview.
Video was uploaded on youtube on March-31-2021.
A famous PAF fighter pilot name "Omar" believe the most dangerous opponent from the join PLAAF and PAF Shaheen (Eagle) Air Exercise is the J-10C. In his opinion the J-10C is very impressive in certain situations. Especially adapted at sneaky attack when there is no AWACS support, even heavy weight fighters is having trouble dealing with it. But there are also shortcomings /problems with the J-10C. And he was very impressed with the advanced avionics and EW of the J-16 and the extremely powerful continuous maneuverability of it.
Omar is PAF 16th squadron leader who is a very experienced and skilled fighter pilot. Also holds the longest tenure of flying the JF-17 in the squadron. He also have a very good understanding of both the Eastern and western fighter jets because he flew western fighter jets including Saudi Arabia's F-15SA and Turkish F-16 in the past.
Omar stated J-10C is a very fearsome opponent. It can trace and track targets with just IRST with out turning on it's own radar and undetected by the opponents. So, J-10C can have a first shoot opportunity at it's opponents. And the J-10C radar is very advanced with it's radar signal reflection much smaller than the F-15SA. If can sneak attack enemy fighters if there were no AWACS support from the other side.
It's vertical climb rate and instant speed change is very good second only to F-16 compared to the same generation single engine fighter jets, better than Mirage-2000 and JF-17. It also equipped with PL-15 and Pl-10 and helmet mount target system that it can lock on target at a very exaggerated angle and shoot it's enemy down. It's instantaneous turn rate is also very good.
He think J-10C can improve on is need more hard-points for BVR AAM. Range is also a problem without conformal fuel tanks, not very good sustained turn rate. if J-10C can't kill it's opponent in the first 30 seconds of the dog fight, then it's a good chance for the opponent to fight back at that time.
At least not wothout soiling a lot more dhotis.PAF is turning into a formidable force.
Jf17 block 3 ...plus upgrades of block1 and 2 to 3 standard.
F16 block 52
And j10CP
If we can get numbers India won't dare