Not that I know for sure but at least it is one of those lacking the datalink antenna as such I think it is safe to say it is a CP ... and it seems to be a HMCS(HMD?!
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Not that I know for sure but at least it is one of those lacking the datalink antenna as such I think it is safe to say it is a CP ... and it seems to be a HMCS(HMD?!
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Yes, Link-17.PAF will install its own datalink?
Don't forget that most of the Chinese jet fighters are copies of Soviet and Russian models.
You underestimate Dassault and France. The Rafale is one of the best jet fighters out there in the hands of a good Air Force.
I'll say it again,in the hands of a good Air Force. What did the IAF do with their Su-30s? Nothing. They blamed it as being a bad aircraft.
One antenna and flight formation light , two things are the difference between J-10c and J-10cpNot that I know for sure but at least it is one of those lacking the datalink antenna as such I think it is safe to say it is a CP ... and it seems to be a HMCS(HMD?!
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Could be this one. Took these pics at the CATIC pavilion during the DxB Air Show last year.Not that I know for sure but at least it is one of those lacking the datalink antenna as such I think it is safe to say it is a CP ... and it seems to be a HMCS(HMD?!
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I said most Chinese jet fighters are copies of Soviet and Russian models.J10 is copy of which Soviet/Russian jet?
Does France/Dassault got 5th gen fighters in service? We all know J10 borrowed technology from China 5th gen platforms, like the J20. I would go on to say that even Eurofighter do not have such exposure.
At the end of the day, you are comparing a product from a developed nation to one from a super power.
A good air force/pilots is another debate.
But that's the thing,he wasn't shot down. The Indians kept saying they shot down the Pakistani pilots again and againIn all fairness he probably shot down like 20 F-104s and 30 J-6s each time he was downed, all without firing a shot too.
I agree with you but I don't think the technological gap is much, it will come down to tactics and skill.I said most Chinese jet fighters are copies of Soviet and Russian models.
The J-10 is rumored to have been inspired by the Lavi. I don't know if that's true or not and I don't care.
In the hands of the Pakistani Air Force it can be a very good aircraft.
But don't you tell me that just because Chinese is a superpower,they can make super amazing jet fighters and that France can't. Yes France doesn't have a 5th generation fighter,but the Rafale has features that make it similar to a stealth fighter.
I mean,France is a big tech power too. You might hate the French like most of the other Pakistanis here,but you must acknowledge that they have been a big name in aviation and military technology too. What are we talking about here? That because the Chinese have made a 5th generation jet fighter,they are superior? Who tells me that it's as good as the F-22 or the F-35? Even the Su-57 didn't sell as much as the Russians wanted.
But that's the thing,he wasn't shot down. The Indians kept saying they shot down the Pakistani pilots again and again
So many were produced even during the pandemic, yet no photographs were leaked or even spotted from satellite imagery.Wow not only since it is the first image of a Batch 07 J-10C, but also since it confirms indeed that the J-10CPs for Pakistan are Batch 07!
And this is already the 20th J-10C within the 7th Batch.
(Image via liming1995/SDF)
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Well if the Americans won't sell you F-15s or F-35s and the French won't sell you Rafale and the Russians won't sell you Su-35s...you might as well go for the J-10. It's a good addition to Pakistan's Air Force.I agree with you but I don't think the technological gap is much, it will come down to tactics and skill.
Also China is progressing much faster, they can upgrade the J-10 at a faster pace with newer technologies that will easily outclass the Rafale, they have 5th generations in service and likely working on 6th.
Overall I think for Pakistan the J-10 was always the better choice even if we had access to something like the Rafale. We aren't just getting current tech, but future upgrades, and with China that's a massive boost.
The Indians think their Rafales could confront J-20, so you agree with them.I said most Chinese jet fighters are copies of Soviet and Russian models.
The J-10 is rumored to have been inspired by the Lavi. I don't know if that's true or not and I don't care.
In the hands of the Pakistani Air Force it can be a very good aircraft.
But don't you tell me that just because Chinese is a superpower,they can make super amazing jet fighters and that France can't. Yes France doesn't have a 5th generation fighter,but the Rafale has features that make it similar to a stealth fighter.
I mean,France is a big tech power too. You might hate the French like most of the other Pakistanis here,but you must acknowledge that they have been a big name in aviation and military technology too. What are we talking about here? That because the Chinese have made a 5th generation jet fighter,they are superior? Who tells me that it's as good as the F-22 or the F-35? Even the Su-57 didn't sell as much as the Russians wanted.