recently i heard that around 75 or so jas39 grippen's from saab ,swiden is up for sale as the compony is in some financial trouble i think pakistan should utilize this oppurtunity to see if it can get the grippen along with TOT that would be realy one of the best things
The Swedish Air Force is not having any financial trouble - it just does not see the need of 200+ JAS-39 Gripens; and the JAS-39A/B are quite old and have been in service for at least 10 years. What the PAF could do is procure them and upgrade them to C/D or custom standards; but that would be quite expensive, and would also negate the role of JF-17. Gripen was designed as a defensive fighter - yes the JAS-39C/D is more advanced; but eventually surpass it after 2-3 massive upgrades - which according to previous PAC C&Cs will happen every 5 years of JF-17's service/production.
ToT is a broad term - it could range from maintenance and upgrade facilities to production factories; the PAF's C&C said that Pakistan does not have the industrial might to absorb fighter production capability. In fact, JF-17's production within Pakistan Aeronautical Complex will be done in successive phases over a fairly long period of time; and there is no way to start such a thing within 5-6 years. Pakistan will start out with maintenance depots, upgrade facillities, spare-parts production, avionics production, local assembly and eventually full-time production. As you can see its a very long and detailed process; and in order for it to successfully work, a lot of money in education (may it be civil or military) and technological R&D will be needed.
Simply put, Pakistan cannot absorb massive Gripen ToT; if it were to procure Gripen, the best it can do is hope to produce some of the avionics as well as the given maintenance and upgrade depots.
that can happen at this time about f-16's my only concern is the delivery and i have doubt's regarding that any political change in pakistan which is not in the U.S intrest can sabotage it in no time so its better to get something rather then nothing we have to take all the pictures in to account so i guess, the following will do alot better if all the cards are played well. INSHA'ALLAH
(sorry i am not in to the f-16 fantacy)
No offence, but you're the one who is fantasizing and dreaming. Look at the facts my friend - the F-16 deal has been signed and the Gripen was dropped in favour of J-10 (at present). There are many factors involved within the F-16 deal that must have pushed the PAF over towards it; I even named a major factor in my previous post. The acquisition of five different platforms in addition takes dreaming to a new level; it is unlikely the PAF will procure a fourth new platform - it will only happen if something drastic happens over the border.
There is no way the PAF will procure a substantial number of twin-engine fighter aircraft - it simply does not fit in with the PAF's doctrine. Had you kept simply the Gripens in your list - then there'll be some feasibility; however EF-2000, Russian MiGs and Sukhois - and that too all at once, not possible.
this the best deal we can get. yes we have to work for it no doubt about it but if we are serius their is a chance in todays changing geo-political allainces, of which alot of diplomatic efforts and hard choices( spacialy regarding russia) will have to be made which we should do coz it's in our best interest.
I hope I do not offend you; but you have gone beyond dreams if you think the list you presented is economically and politically feasible. I suggest you learn a few things about maintenance, logistics, actual fighter costs, etc, before making irrational statements like above.