PAF in 2015 & 2025

[A.Rahman]

yes, I saw it on wikipedia too.

Thats why I posted for you guys to confirm it.

I do know that US is holding 12 F-16A/B back because USN wouldn't release it.

 

[imiakhtar]

I dont know if this is true unless verified. Twin engine makes me think again.

Why does twin engine make you think again? the A-5 currently in service is is twin engined and i haven't heard any complaints.

 

[imiakhtar]

No it is not.

Please can you explain why not

 

[Skull-Buster]

No it is not.

salam,

can you please explain why its not? you have good knwledge in aircrafts so can you please explain it to me?

thanx.

 

[Muradk]

Sorry guys did 'nt see your question , My fault this statement was not for this thread. Lets talk about the trainer L-15. To be very frank right now no one knows its true capabilities I am not saying it is a bad plane no a twin engine trainer what else do we want buy 5 of these puppies and before we transfer our pilots on J-10s they can use L-15.
No not a bad idea at all.

 

[genmirajborgza786]

Confirmed Future PAF Fleet

30-50 FBC-1 Flying Leopard

36-40 F-10A/B Vanguard

12 F-16C Block 52+ Fighting Falcon

6 F-16D Block 52+ Fighting Falcon

34 F-16A Block 15 MLU-3 Fighting Falcon

26 F-16B Block 15 MLU-3 Fighting Falcon

150 JF-17 Thunder

6 Saab 2000 Erieye AEW&C + 1 training Aircraft

4 IL-78 Midas Air-to-Air Refueling Aircraft

12 C-130H w/6 reserve C-130H Medium Lift Transport Aircraft

39+ K-8 Intermediate Jet Trainer

*Additional F-10A/B Vanguard will be procured.

*JF-17 fleet may rise from 150 to 200-250

*The PAF may procure an additional 33 F-16C/D Block 52+.

*The PAF will procure an unspecified number of Sino-Pak developed AEW&C aircraft.

*Plans to procure an Advanced Lead in Jet Trainer to replace the FT-5 and the FT-6 in a fighter conversion role, e.g., the L-15, L-159B or T-50.

More info on 30-50 FBC-1 Flying Leopard please.

 

[blain2]

More info on 30-50 FBC-1 Flying Leopard please.

Not happening afaik. J-10, JF-17 and F-16s are the only new acquisitions. The J-10 and JF-17s are slated to be capable of maritime interdiction as are the new blk52s. I do not believe PAF wants the headache of introducing an entirely new airframe just to cater to a specialized Naval interdiction role...the emphasis is on MR capability.

 

[Edevelop]

More info on 30-50 FBC-1 Flying Leopard

 

[EagleEyes]

30-50 FBC-1 Flying Leopard (NO!)

36-40 F-10A/B Vanguard 36 confirmed, 4 for spares may be.

12 F-16C Block 52+ Fighting Falcon

6 F-16D Block 52+ Fighting Falcon

34 F-16A Block 15 MLU-3 Fighting Falcon

26 F-16B Block 15 MLU-3 Fighting Falcon

150 JF-17 Thunder Definately be 250

6 Saab 2000 Erieye AEW&C + 1 training Aircraft Not sure about the training aircraft. confirm?

4 IL-78 Midas Air-to-Air Refueling Aircraft So far have read three

 

[solid snake]

Looks like a good plane. I don't know if its a good idea to not replace the A-5 with a specialized bomber, I think we definitely should get the Flying Leopard after induction of JF-17 and F-16s is well underway.

 

[morind]

Looks like a good plane. I don't know if its a good idea to not replace the A-5 with a specialized bomber, I think we definitely should get the Flying Leopard after induction of JF-17 and F-16s is well underway.

I don't think PAF should buy the FBC-1s,just waste of money.J-10,JF-17,or F-16 are all mult-function fighter,they have the potential to develop into fighting-attackers.

Very glad to see a more powerfull PAF!

 

[solid snake]

I don't think PAF should buy the FBC-1s,just waste of money.J-10,JF-17,or F-16 are all mult-function fighter,they have the potential to develop into fighting-attackers.

Very glad to see a more powerfull PAF!

How much does 1 unit of FBC-1 cost? How do its operating costs compare to the JF-17/F-16? Surely it can't be more expensive?

 

[EagleEyes]

Well the plain theory of replacing A-5s with J-10 is debunked totally since A-5s will be replaced by the JF-17s and F-16s. Word from the official side.

 

[su-47]

I dont think PAf needs FBC-1. The J-10s and F-16s are multi-role. Inducting an FBC-1 will just increase costs and logistical problems. Also FBC-1 wont be very good in air-to-air roles, so PAF will have to use fighter aircraft as escorts. Might as well use the money to get more J-10s. They'll b able to fend for themselves and can be used for ground attack.

 

[araz]

I dont think PAf needs FBC-1. The J-10s and F-16s are multi-role. Inducting an FBC-1 will just increase costs and logistical problems. Also FBC-1 wont be very good in air-to-air roles, so PAF will have to use fighter aircraft as escorts. Might as well use the money to get more J-10s. They'll b able to fend for themselves and can be used for ground attack.

AsSalam oAlaikum.
I would agree with the above statement. From what I have read on the subject including people who have read AFDP 2119, FBC1is not on the cards at all.PAF has already calculated its need for aicrafts and FBC1 does not feature in it. We will compensate any deficiecy by increasinf the number of Thunders . There may be another Platform which PAF may require post 2115, to counter fifth generation aircrafts but I suspect efforts will continue along the lines of a joint venture with our friends. Although there is talk of taking on another 33 F16 block 52s,I think this may be counterproductive as the American Government is redefining its strategy and may not want to bolster our defence any further. PAF is very conscious of this and as long as we get our older F16s updated , we will be happy even if the Block 52s get held up and PAFs initial order of 18 is reflective of this.
WaSalam
Araz