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Operation Swift Retort Memorial at PAF base Sargodha

So I was having a confusion lately. Why was WC Nouman given the more prestigious award when it was Sq ldr Hassan who took down the Su 30 Mki?
 
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F-16 twice outperformed Russian tech....Bison too is not a slouch machine ....I wish we had these SU-30s....we could teach them a far better lesson then.
Hi thx for your reply another Q can we at some point having j16 with Chinese engine
Though I’m pretty much sure if we indulge Chinese with Russians for negotiating even with ruski engine they don’t mind just a thought
What’s your intake on it
Thank you
 
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Firstly, your post makes ZERO sense. WHAT are you saying man?

Secondly, every detail that Pakistanis know about the Sukhoi involved in this clash has come from Day One from various Indian sources.


I myself saw this on Sameer Joshi's Twitter feed months ago where he stated that Avenger One is from the 221 Squadron.

Avenger One is the reason that the F-16s showed tail and fled the fight after wasting 5 AMRAAMS at a million $ a pop.

PAF's claims are a pale echo of the IAF's F-16 claim. If you find this Sukhoi claim credible based on :
1] multiple parachutes seen
2] radar signatures
3] radio intercepts
4] eye witness reports

then sorry for you , because IAF had used these points months before the recent PAF TV special.

Feel free to chase your tail in circles. I've made my point.
Yea, every time you get busted, nothing makes sense to you, posting same six months old nonsense from three different Indian sources doesn't make you any more credible.
The little breaks don't seem to benefit your little mind so i will not waste time with all you are blabbering except I'm sure the IAF was feeling sorry for PAF wasting 5 AMRAAMS hence displaying the wreck with such gloomy faces. Maybe this was the reason the second SU-30 left the area with supersonic speed.
Just because your mighty Agni Pankh lost it's face and tail that day, you don't need to behave like a headless chicken.

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Avenger One is the reason that the F-16s showed tail and fled the fight after wasting 5 AMRAAMS at a million $ a pop.
Avenger one was so dangerous for the F-16 but was busy to dodge ARAAMs on that they without taking any shot at PAF. This place can't afford you or any other keep repeating the same rants.

Yea, every time you get busted, nothing makes sense to you, posting same six months old nonsense from three different Indian sources doesn't make you any more credible.
The little breaks don't seem to benefit your little mind so i will not waste time with all you are blabbering except I'm sure the IAF was feeling sorry for PAF wasting 5 AMRAAMS hence displaying the wreck with such gloomy faces. Maybe this was the reason the second SU-30 left the area with supersonic speed.
Just because your mighty Agni Pankh lost it's face and tail that day, you don't need to behave like a headless chicken.

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These guys were towing MKI as Asian Raptor on 26th Feb.
 
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Firstly , I appreciate your response. Clearly you are above the age of 15 , something that can't be stated confidently about most members here.

Literally everything you write above is true for the PAF claim.
1) Parachutes seen falling to earth belong to the PAF F16
2) PAF claims of radar images of MKI shootdown have not been seen by anyone. Correct me if I am wrong.
3) PAF has also NOT provided anyone radio intercepts .

So what makes one claim stronger than the other?

If anything, IAF has given its' claims and it's evidence within days. PAF took 7 months to release their TV program. Why ? Please think , don't be a blind PAF fan.

The irony is you perfectly portrayed yourself by ignoring the main point which is beyond your comprehension level and now has to run to pita g twitter warrior "sameer" the imaginary F-16 chaser.

let me repeat

Since 2 R-77 recovered 1 R-73 with burnt motor attached to pylon recovered and 1 R-73 with 11 out of 13 serial number ( can be verified by plugging number in IAF @$$) recovered meaning AbhiNandos did not fire any missile and any parachutes seen on 27th feb belongs to IAF. Su-30 pilots descended to IOK

can you refute this evidence without resorting to chasing imaginary f-16 in contrails and dots in sky?


btw PAF could not have come up with better timing. they are in full troll mode by first letting Indiots take out their frustrations on internet (with a billion theories) and then they invite multiple nations air force officials and presenting them with photo graphic evidence of all Mig-21 missiles wreckage and given any defence analysts permission to inspect wreckage if they have any dough. Something that India has FAILED to do because of the fear of getting caught in its own web of lies.
 
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Firstly, your post makes ZERO sense. WHAT are you saying man?

Secondly, every detail that Pakistanis know about the Sukhoi involved in this clash has come from Day One from various Indian sources.


I myself saw this on Sameer Joshi's Twitter feed months ago where he stated that Avenger One is from the 221 Squadron.

Avenger One is the reason that the F-16s showed tail and fled the fight after wasting 5 AMRAAMS at a million $ a pop.

PAF's claims are a pale echo of the IAF's F-16 claim. If you find this Sukhoi claim credible based on :
1] multiple parachutes seen
2] radar signatures
3] radio intercepts
4] eye witness reports

then sorry for you , because IAF had used these points months before the recent PAF TV special.

Feel free to chase your tail in circles. I've made my point.
PAF never fled lol in fact there are Indian sources that allege IAF jets were fast exiting the scene due to PAF gaining ew superiority. @Windjammer can you post the article?
 
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Firstly , I appreciate your response. Clearly you are above the age of 15 , something that can't be stated confidently about most members here.

Literally everything you write above is true for the PAF claim.
1) Parachutes seen falling to earth belong to the PAF F16
2) PAF claims of radar images of MKI shootdown have not been seen by anyone. Correct me if I am wrong.
3) PAF has also NOT provided anyone radio intercepts .

So what makes one claim stronger than the other?

If anything, IAF has given its' claims and it's evidence within days. PAF took 7 months to release their TV program. Why ? Please think , don't be a blind PAF fan.

Oh, just to clarify : I will acknowledge any F16 kill after concrete evidence is located. I am in the 'unsure' category now. So please don't confuse me with an IndianAmerican version of the blind fanboy lot found here.



This is absolutely true of past IAF chiefs and perhaps recent PAF chiefs.




Well, truthfully I agree.

But I will also look forward to you sharing this very post the next time it is mentioned about how PAF Chiefs traditionally lead some annual flypast by flying their own jets !

And I request you to post this opinion each time a video clip is released showing the current PAF chief in strategic camera angles and further edited skilfully to create the impression that he is flying the F16 himself.

I believe that last 3 PAF chiefs have done exactly this. I even remember some journo asking ACM Dhanoa about this last such clip and he mocked it by saying " back seat pilot' or something similar.
That's where BS Dhanoa was butt hurt in his guts to comment out like that. He's an air chief, not an Instagram celebrity.
 
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Avenger 1 was so dangerous that day that the other SU30 high tailed it lest Avenger 1 shoots him in panic like the indian AD people sitting in their underground bunkers shot down their own chopper


Avenger one was so dangerous for the F-16 but was busy to dodge ARAAMs on that they without taking any shot at PAF. This place can't afford you or any other keep repeating the same rants.



These guys were towing MKI as Asian Raptor on 26th Feb.
 
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Their former Aircheif BS Dhooan said that he does not believe the PAF black and white video(H4 or REK whichever it actually was).
He went on to say that he thinks PAF missed and gave the story a spin that they chose to miss on purpose later on to save face. He also said if they really wanted to miss they should have chosen impact points even further because people could have been injured in the zones PAF actually dropped. I really wished we had killed their cheif now.
 
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@Windjammer
Why Air Marshall said "in 15 minutes, everyone was in cockpit"
The IAF Clowns were claiming that they spent some 45 minutes in Pakistani airspace, which is load of nonsense, the PAF CAPs were already airborne, however upon learning of Indian attempt, the PAF pilots were ready to launch strikes against India within 15 minutes but when it was released that Indians failed to do any damage, the strike force was stood down to give the measured response.
 
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