Olaf Scholz Hands Hamburg Port to China

[MH.Yang]

thats a leap. You really ought to put down that Xi koolaid. I asked you to justify your claim that Hamburg port 'belongs' to China but instead you went on a tangent.

By the way BMW announced an investment of 1.7 Billion USD in a battery plant in the US. As did Mercedes, BASF and other large German businesses - so what? Besides the US is by far the largest FDI investor in Germany - so what? If German businesses invests a few billion dollars in Dutch Antilles does that mean Germany is now an ally to that country?

BASF, BMW, VW and other enterprises have invested tens of billions of euros in China. And they transfer factories to China, not financial capital.

Influenced by energy prices and wars, European capital is indeed flowing out on a large scale. Financial capital flows to the United States and industrial capital flows to China.

BTW: COSCO Group has obtained the operation right of Hamburg Port. And COSCO Group is about to acquire more equity.

Four of the world's seven largest shipping companies are from China. It is inevitable for Chinese enterprises to acquire and build global ports.

There are more than 100 overseas ports leased and controlled by China, such as Haifa Port and Ashdod Port in Israel, Kumport Port in Turkey, Tinkan Port in Nigeria, Lome Port in Togo, Kyaukpyu Port in Myanmar, Suez Port in Egypt, Lecheng Port in Papua New Guinea, and Balanagua Port in Brazil. The top ten ports in the world, except Singapore Port and Hedland Port, are all controlled by China.

 

[etylo]

In addition, China will soon acquire the port of Rotterdam in the Netherlands. China.

In 2016, China has obtained the port of Piraeus, a Greek port.

Now, the first, second and third ports in Europe will all belong to China.

Are these whites in the West really that sick and paranoid about China, whenever there some cooperations between China and the Western countries, the Western media and public will cry out that those countries are kneeling or kowtowing to China, really racist and white supremacist in the worse form.

 

[Han Patriot]

BASF, BMW, VW and other enterprises have invested tens of billions of euros in China. And they transfer factories to China, not financial capital.

Influenced by energy prices and wars, European capital is indeed flowing out on a large scale. Financial capital flows to the United States and industrial capital flows to China.

BTW: COSCO Group has obtained the operation right of Hamburg Port. And COSCO Group is about to acquire more equity.

Four of the world's seven largest shipping companies are from China. It is inevitable for Chinese enterprises to acquire and build global ports.

There are more than 100 overseas ports leased and controlled by China, such as Haifa Port and Ashdod Port in Israel, Kumport Port in Turkey, Tinkan Port in Nigeria, Lome Port in Togo, Kyaukpyu Port in Myanmar, Suez Port in Egypt, Lecheng Port in Papua New Guinea, and Balanagua Port in Brazil. The top ten ports in the world, except Singapore Port and Hedland Port, are all controlled by China.

And Germany allowed us to buy some smaller but technologically advanced companies, indirectly transferring technology. The only thing lacking now is the SMEE EUV machine, we will dump billions into this just like how we dump billions into our aeroengine program.

 

[Viet]

Ethnic Chinese entities and China run and own some of the largest ports on earth mate. Piraeus port was in deep shit until we saved it. It's an embarrassment to need us Chinese to teach Europe how to run a port properly.


Germany is showing signs if kowtowing to China. Their industries are getting destroyed by the lack of cheap Russian gas, and now they are moving the production to China. Basf China is now their main production centre. Volkswagon will now use China as their main export hub.


A quarter of the voting rights mate. Why do you think it was so controversial? Thanks to Biden we now have a deindustrialized Germany, benefiting China.CheaP Russian gas is now flowing to China. We now have a bew ally, if Russia was in NATo, we wouldve been fcked. The new century is indeed a new Chinese century. The heavens mandate has jow risen, the Han shall rise again.

You misunderstand.
It’s a bilateral deal.
Germany treats China as the new rich uncle.
From what I read, Germany gets the money (that’s not much by the way), chinese get a share with no voting rights, no veto rights.
Germany does it because China promises to allocate more goods to Hamburg.
I don’t think the Dutch are amused.

 

[MH.Yang]

You misunderstand.
It’s a bilateral deal.
Germany treats China as the new rich uncle.
From what I read, Germany gets the money (that’s not much by the way), chinese get a share with no voting rights, no veto rights.
Germany does it because China promises to allocate more goods to Hamburg.
I don’t think the Dutch are amused.

China has not promised to transfer goods from Rotterdam port to Hamburg port. China built Hamburg Port only to increase exports to Germany.

Germany is one of the terminals of B&R. Moreover, German industry is rapidly losing, and Germany will need more imported goods in the future.

 

[Viet]

China has not promised to transfer goods from Rotterdam port to Hamburg port. China built Hamburg Port only to increase exports to Germany.

Germany is one of the terminals of B&R. Moreover, German industry is rapidly losing, and Germany will need more imported goods in the future.

Germany will never allow the deal if no own benefits. Cosco made the promise. Hamburg expects more goods, more revenues. You can’t backtrack on that. About losing, let’s wait. Germany industry has $1 trillion overseas assets.

 

[dbc]

BASF, BMW, VW and other enterprises have invested tens of billions of euros in China. And they transfer factories to China, not financial capital.

Influenced by energy prices and wars, European capital is indeed flowing out on a large scale. Financial capital flows to the United States and industrial capital flows to China.

BTW: COSCO Group has obtained the operation right of Hamburg Port. And COSCO Group is about to acquire more equity.

Four of the world's seven largest shipping companies are from China. It is inevitable for Chinese enterprises to acquire and build global ports.

There are more than 100 overseas ports leased and controlled by China, such as Haifa Port and Ashdod Port in Israel, Kumport Port in Turkey, Tinkan Port in Nigeria, Lome Port in Togo, Kyaukpyu Port in Myanmar, Suez Port in Egypt, Lecheng Port in Papua New Guinea, and Balanagua Port in Brazil. The top ten ports in the world, except Singapore Port and Hedland Port, are all controlled by China.

German firms employ millions of people in the US. This doesn't give the US any influence over German foreign policy. Your claims that Germany 'belongs' to China due to these business arrangements is rather silly.

 

[MH.Yang]

Your claims that Germany 'belongs' to China due to these business arrangements is rather silly.

I didn't say that.

What I said is that Germany is still a sovereign country, and it is not a colony of the USA. The US bombing of the Nord Stream will not make Germany surrender, but will only lead Germany to balance the US pressure by approaching China.

 

[Beidou2020]

Germany (powerhouse of Europe) is deindustrialising now that they don’t get cheap Russian energy. China now receives the cheap Russian energy. Longer the Russia-Ukraine war drags on, the stronger China’s geopolitical position gets. Stronger China gets, the faster the American empire can be dismantled into the dustbin of history. The end of Western hegemony is finally coming to an end.

 

[Bilal9]

Are these whites in the West really that sick and paranoid about China, whenever there some cooperations between China and the Western countries, the Western media and public will cry out that those countries are kneeling or kowtowing to China, really racist and white supremacist in the worse form.

I see the Western media (and Neocons and their bootlickers around the world like Fascist Indian Sanghis) get more paranoid and racist in their propaganda against China as time goes on and they realize that the rug (meaning economic superiority and imperialism based on that) is being pulled out from under their very feet.

The very economic polarity of the globe is changing and people who were once comfy in that status quo in exploiting others for gain - will not be happy with it.

But all the whining and hair-pulling in the world will not bring those days back. Payback is a b*tch.

I say this - even though I live in the US and my wealth depends on the West exploiting the south and other disadvantaged countries.

Right is right and wrong is wrong.

 

[Han Patriot]

You misunderstand.
It’s a bilateral deal.
Germany treats China as the new rich uncle.
From what I read, Germany gets the money (that’s not much by the way), chinese get a share with no voting rights, no veto rights.
Germany does it because China promises to allocate more goods to Hamburg.
I don’t think the Dutch are amused.

Right, i love how you are smoking that copium. Lol

Germany will never allow the deal if no own benefits. Cosco made the promise. Hamburg expects more goods, more revenues. You can’t backtrack on that. About losing, let’s wait. Germany industry has $1 trillion overseas assets.

It was a tribute to the emperor mate. Your Chancellor is coming to kowtow to the Empire. Lololol

Of course there is going to be benefits, we are gonna teach you how to operate ports better.

 

[Han Patriot]

I didn't say that.

What I said is that Germany is still a sovereign country, and it is not a colony of the USA. The US bombing of the Nord Stream will not make Germany surrender, but will only lead Germany to balance the US pressure by approaching China.

The Germans were so pissed but afraid of the Anglos that they dont even dare to say who destroyed the pipeline.

 

[TigerOfMysore]

In addition, China will soon acquire the port of Rotterdam in the Netherlands. China.

In 2016, China has obtained the port of Piraeus, a Greek port.

Now, the first, second and third ports in Europe will all belong to China.

Indian disinformation campaign.

 

[Super Falcon]

Hutchison ports will use them or Chinese govt authority will use them

 

[jhungary]

In addition, China will soon acquire the port of Rotterdam in the Netherlands. China.

In 2016, China has obtained the port of Piraeus, a Greek port.

Now, the first, second and third ports in Europe will all belong to China.

It doesn't belong to China, it gave the operation lease to China.

If Germany pass a law and nationalise the port or when the contract runs out and German authority did not renew it, China will have to relinquish those port back to Germany. What China is doing is basically develop those port for Germany for free.......

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Not sure about the dutch law.....

German firms employ millions of people in the US. This doesn't give the US any influence over German foreign policy. Your claims that Germany 'belongs' to China due to these business arrangements is rather silly.

lol, in their mind, they own a company that mean they own that country that company operate in....

In the West, Business and National Security always separate, what they don't know is it's one law away from basically for these people to upgrade the port for Germany for free, and the Chinese don't have right to veto anything lol....