OIC decides to convene special meeting on Kashmir issue in Pakistan

[El Sidd]

think Pakistanians should made LOC a Permanent Border, and shine it - BUILD A WALL !

I think you need it more than the Rastafarian here.

LoC can be declared as CFL but not as IB. Fascists who dream of this are in for a nasty surprise

 

[AmschelHonestvig]

I think you need it more than the Rastafarian here.

LoC can be declared as CFL but not as IB. Fascists who dream of this are in for a nasty surprise

Where did fascist slip out from...?
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CFL is what essentially LOC is designed to be right now anyway, it doesnt work - a permanent international Border is needed - its fortifications arre ciritical.

tyou also have to see the governemtn and army you have is on the defensive - you cant fight on 1000 fronts whilst at the same time be continually plagued by internal saboteurs at scuh intesity as currently.

Imran Khan is a dove - and inexperienced, Bajwa is exceletn general and CoAS but better corps commander than COaS - he should be posted back to Northernfront and a Field Marshal sjhoudl be bnrought in - unfortubnately Gen Musharraf is too old for this role now...Perhaps an ex-CJSJS brough back as field Marshal.

Musharraf was skilled politically (famnily foeign office backgroudn/tukey residence in shcool) and Army career,
Imran is only bat and ball player - very deceent sincere but not a wartime leader - he gave back the wing polit for Free - and lost more solders,

If soliders are expendable id take your view and CFL all day long - but the permanent border is best way.

Indian Union preaches non-violent revolt - so bolt your doors and windows and let them the Indian union neighbours fight each other and fight it out -

Indian Moslems and likewise IoJK Kashmiri are not homogeous people - they are mised if you find it fascist to say in general terms that most ethnic IoJK kashmiri only want extened automnoy within indian Union and moslems want to be accepted as patriotic so they can be self-righteous against pakistanians and their apprehensions then you are msising the elephant in the room.

Punjab-Sindh Feuldal chaudhry Oligarchy domination is the elephant in the room - hence why Imran himself is trying ot make south punjab to try and give more power back to people and take away from oligarchy of feudal elite who also regularly attempt to subvert the national interest.

If this is not sorted interally process of reconociliation - external forces exploit it - there is no point denying it -like Balochistan and PTM - since the in both ot htses case the PTI being dominnat pashtun voice does not speak out for the pasthun people then the popluation wil gladly take Dovals dollars and rupees to start agitations and form PTM's

Baloch have gas but they cant use - so ofcourse they will be pssed about it- its not fascist to mention this - give the gas to the people and screw those who are manipuating the lack of it to the public...

it is not fascist to mention without the tribal intervention into kashmir in 1947 the Punjabi brethren would be forced to eat prassad like their Moslem Brethren in Indian Union Punjab,

God gave them those qualities it is right to mention it - King david was given skill of song and Metal work, so its not fascist to mention this is his skill or histribes or offspirngs skill either...

Also many unodcumented People who migrated living in karachi since 1947 need their papers - Justice is equal for all, or only in the case of 1000s of Sikhs cmuing to Punjab undocumented and treated like kings, (why not good host is a positive charracteristics) bu the people who sacrificed at partition and left everyone and everything behind/left for dead espaced porgroms have not even a paper - they are the real founding fathers !

Do you really think a lawyer like Mr Jinnah would allow these people to be stateless within their own hard won country ?

Justice is not the fickle tokenism, it doesnt come about by simply having tokenism of look we have 1 hindu judge or 1 lady judge or 1 gay lawyer etc.

The Neo-Nazi often use this tokenism narrative they say they are not racsit because they have 1 black friend !

Wagah is still open so its not a fascist move, its pragamtic, so are the airports and legal entry points
- besides the Indian Union can currently come and leave at will at Kartarpur - Dr. Ageet Doval is testament to that himself.

This Wall fortifications saves soldiers lives from unnecesary skirmishes and consolidates the current territory of AJK, fro potenitial misadventure - if you see in the current Turkish-North syria conflict it has saved lives of the Turks and even many civilians.

The building a wall - or permanent fortifications will protect against the false claims of infiltration and spioradic firing, - besides what stops the Indian Union from doing this first and then you following suit.

You have to appreciate the many times the IoJK Kashmiris sent the SSG to their deaths, for nothing, and treasoned away from uprising.

Since Pakistanain seem to (and with great similarity actually ) see Turkey as a model, has done similar in shutting off its borders to all disputed borders like Armenia, and Southern border, despite Adana agreement right, and their gains ain afrin and other places are also cordened off.

Hatay province was a good example of this method of acquisition and then by referrendum it became Turkey.

Pakistan Army is an impressive but defensive force not an offensive force - its offensive capabilities are limited and it would not want a chinese domaninated pakistan & Indian union at the end of a six day war when all the chinese or iranians have to to is simply walk into their neighbouring country with feathers.

 

[El Sidd]

Where did fascist slip out from...?

Declaring LoC as IB amounts to fascism as it legitimizes Indian Nazi Hegemony over Pakistan.

We intend to not give up an inch to Nazis of India.

As far as Mush is concerned. Read the verdict

 

[zeeshe100]

meeting of foreign ministers under OIC has very little impact .. and if this type of meeting is going to take place in Pakistan then it will become totally useless with zero value.

 

[flameboard]

Pakistan didn’t join the Malaysia Turkey lead summit. This better be worth it.

Kashmir is how you determine if the OIC is worth it

 

[AmschelHonestvig]

Declaring LoC as IB amounts to fascism as it legitimizes Indian Nazi Hegemony over Pakistan.

We intend to not give up an inch to Nazis of India.

As far as Mush is concerned. Read the verdict

Well agreed with your sentiment that IoJK Kashmir must exit the Indian Union

<-- #Krexit - Kashmir Exit from Indian Union.

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Well the Judge has to do Justice and hang every living prime Minster/president cabinets at the same time, and exhume the dead ones and his judge friend who helped Mush must also be put on it, as well his seniors who are CJCJS Chairman - Gen Ehsan Hak , I wonder if they are in tho mood for a Pakhtun Spring ?

COAs is not the Highest rank.

Court Martial for Mush is appropriate, as it give a courtoom/jury of peers ;
snowflake Judges have no right to sentacve an military veteran man in a common court.

Had a check- Moslamic case law - a Veteran especially those who fought the early wars were given slack for their misdeeds since they were kwon to be patriotic and put life n line for that pice of paper called constition which crooks like Mr zaradri can change at the stroke of a pen with 10% commision ontop for his services !

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IB is required since - glossing over the fact that Indian Union Nazis the boundary is dynamic and changes daily - so its not ideal scenario.

Besides who gave 100 sq miles of Kashmir away to China, the same China who nurtured Moody during his international pariah status, the same China has a deal with Indian Union to carve up Malaysia ?

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Its not an ideal situation to make it IB, but either you play catch up to Mooody and play count the coffins on your side of the border or make it permant and let him count how many of his 900,000 soldeirs want to go on leave...

The only VIABLE solution is that - Paksitan does not have the depth to capture, using old tactics,
Who says the wall cant come down like the berlin wall after IoJK actually does Exit.

Besides it is Drone warfare out there so making the wall would be lmimting the foront on which the Indian Union can engage

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Kashmri are not a fightin force - afghanistan can keep fightin till end of times - their geography, culture terrian and politics supports it -

Moody picked the weakest links, gujarati are bean counters not fighters, Kashmiri the same - he made peace with the Nazals temporarily since he cant fight them .

He deported the bengalis since they can fight but are illeteratcy high in ntheir culture - so wont have documents....

(Even the most succesfull insurrection of the 1 million chechens V 156 million+ Russia/CIS in 1995 had to under Turkish Supervison call it a day , and they already got independency once but failed to administer their region..)

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call it over simplicstic of boderline fascist but reality is reality

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The Kashmirnmi in the EU are busy selling drugs and scarface - they dont care about their own independece - its simply like a meaingless celebrations day for them like chirstmas or easter ...

There are mostly part of brown on brown crimes and not really proprly organised to influence their own or euorpean affairs in their favour.

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Pakistan didn’t join the Malaysia Turkey lead summit. This better be worth it.

Kashmir is how you determine if the OIC is worth it

Yes imran didnt go to snub the Malaysian pm and have lunch with his rival at the turkish embassy wit megalomaniac Erdogan ; whilst indian uninoi troops had cut the loc and installed offensive posture weapnosn there....

and of course iran always helped kashmiris - but the postman always ended up in New delhi...

Kashmiri should help themselves end of, the others will supoort them

Others cannot lead their struggle and then the kashmiri wait to be king over everyone - doesnt work like that !

 

[Minho]

The meeting is held in Pakistan, not Saudi, and there are reports of it being downgraded from an fm level to a parliamentary level. My guess is Suaid arabia will send some low-level parliamentarian and let some countries more sympathetic to Pakistan(Qatar, Azerbaijan, etc. do the talking, and just smile and nod and go along with whatever everyone says.

 

[AmschelHonestvig]

The meeting is held in Pakistan, not Saudi, and there are reports of it being downgraded from an fm level to a parliamentary level. My guess is Suaid arabia will send some low-level parliamentarian and let some countries more sympathetic to Pakistan(Qatar, Azerbaijan, etc. do the talking, and just smile and nod and go along with whatever everyone says.

(<--) #Krexit- Kashmir Exit from the Indian Union


Doesnt matter much in fact it is better the OIC do nothing - since it will give chance for demonstators within Indian Union more legitimacy as a localised movement and close Moody's Pakistan-Kashmir fire-Exit to all of its problems !!!

He has hurt his own Butt, I wouldnt advise Arabs or anyone else to involve in IoJK at government level
- at people level the Anti-CAA protests are really getting to Moody who is makes holy prassad in his rag-skirt and brown hitler youth shorts, frm th pressure of the protests !