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OIC decides to convene special meeting on Kashmir issue in Pakistan

Pakistan wouldnt get any help anyways. I have never seen a single muslims who is not Pakistani come here and fight with us. Frankly do we need anyone?


I hope turkey Qatar iran and malaysia all attend. They have to show they are better than the pity saudis and Emiratis

Damage is done , all is divided and its good news for India. GCC already working to get India OIC membership and there is new blackmail is coming for Pakistan. They will threat Pakistan by the majority of Arab votes then may give full membership of OIC to India. Once India inn then you ll see how OIC will be active.
 
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Jubay are saving face after what Turkey said. They should've be told to get out through the same door they came in.
 
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April 2020? Lol.

What happened to PM Khan? He's changed so much just after a year in power. He must be doing Tawba Tawba every night for everything he used to say against others and the promises he used to make while in opposition.
 
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Damage is done , all is divided and its good news for India. GCC already working to get India OIC membership and there is new blackmail is coming for Pakistan. They will threat Pakistan by the majority of Arab votes then may give full membership of OIC to India. Once India inn then you ll see how OIC will be active.

Even if they let India in it’ll make no difference to how OIC operates for India it’ll be just a cover. Honestly I’m done with these Arabs collectively they could sink into the earth for all I care — but we should start setting up an alternative block and leave these Arabs to their demise or whatever’s headed their way.
 
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Even if they let India in it’ll make no difference to how OIC operates for India it’ll be just a cover. Honestly I’m done with these Arabs collectively they could sink into the earth for all I care — but we should start setting up an alternative block and leave these Arabs to their demise or whatever’s headed their way.
We don't fit in Pan Arabianism. Pakistan need to fix its economy and aggressively pursuit its regional policy.
 
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OIC motto "Look busy, do nothing"
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You didn't get the point I was trying to make chief!

I refuse to blame OIC when i am yet to see the urgency on Kashmir by Pakistani government and Pakistani diplomats.

I also refuse to take part in mobs against them too.

Your point has been made and noted.
 
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Stop believing Erdogans Lawrence dress Press trash :

Firstly, Ergodan suipported Qatars otion in 2004 to make Inddian Union not only admitted rahter to admit and install as the head of the OIC,

(on the basis the Indian Unions hosts the largest number of Muslim hostages in the world, second largest populateion after Indonesia.Pakistana)

https://theprint.in/diplomacy/oic-i...s-50-years-after-major-snub-at-launch/197255/

~ Musharraf in his cavalier manner told them to take a hike (f*** OFF) I m quititing the OIC he said
- the qatari backrtracked begged him back before he had a chance to fly to Tel aviv or Washington

- since Musharraf was a maverick, top man in all international circles he didnt need them at all,

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1206996/middle-east

“I’m shocked at how the Pakistani government dealt with the Qatar crisis.
Qatar was never with Pakistan, and we witnessed this many a time,” he said.

Saudi Arabia and the UAE “have always been Pakistan’s great friends.
We must never do anything that’s against either country — both have always stood by us, and we must value their friendship.”


He should have walked out for good then and let the AKP (not all Turks) and Qatari screw up with the Indian Union and re0introduce Baal and Sheva, and Erdogan's golden indian union calf into the Cube Ka'bva ?

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Secondly Malaysia trip was such a disjointed Joke , that even Erdogan himself did not Eat lunch with Host malaysian PM's dinner but went to turkish embassy to eat lunch with the rival and ex malay pm- Anwar ibrahim.

https://ahvalnews.com/turkey-malaysia/erdogan-snubs-malaysian-prime-minister-blogger-says

Some guest Erdogan tuened out to be !

Trump was better to Imran Khan than Erdogans repulsive smear campaigntreatment - this is relapolitic no some Mother -in law based Geo-ZeeTv drama, each country has its own interests, religion bonds and blood bonds do not matter over nationqal interest....
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Thirdly Pakistan did not attend due to Malaysian PM went on rant about Uiyghur and China-
China is important ot pakistan survival despite is human rights abuses in Uyghur-Turkestan, and bnailed it out against Us rpessure many times at the UN.
~this overshadowed the Kashmir issue, Ergodan went on rant about Kurdistan,
~who (Kurds KRG Barazani's) actually have been better supporters of Kashmir than two-faces of Turkish govt on Kashmir, always sleeping with Moody.

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Fourthly, The Musharraf verdict and potential war scenario in AJK lmited attack scare meant the PM did not leave Islamabad, Indian Union missilesin offesnvie posture -

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Fifthly, Iran being time tested allies allies of Indian Union were there, (85 million Us Snaction waiver for exepmtion for chahabar with Indian Union) were never ever going to allow a proper statement on Kashmir - they always watered down every statemwent on a rant against Trump and USA all the while having secret relations with certain american officials over Iraq and afghanistan, and expanision of Shiirte Crecent.

Not in imran Kjhans interst to mud sling trump when trump has asked imran to mediate Iran-Saudi.

( Khomoeini was a Fake Hashemite from, United Province of the Indian Union)
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Fifthly, simply because erdgoan looks after his country doesnt mean he will be good to you.

TRT wrote narcisstic scathing smear campaing attacks on Imran Khan for not attending
- this is known to be Erdogans style he is very erratic and Angry unforgiving towards people who he thinks have angered him except trump who wipes the floor with Erdogans drama
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-Simple Trump tweet to crash the lira shuts Erdogan up.
- and another re-tweet by Trump of the PKK Syrian free forces commander for Invite to lunch at the white house makes erdogan make Turkish dleight in his Turkish Salwar....
- Putin doesnt use twitter - but a full stop mark by putin is enough to light up the bosphorus bridge in russian colours ...

He humiliated put Scholar Adnan Oktar is Jail for :
Adnan Oktar went on social media saying he got criticised by erdogans religious department for the face he uses Models (not wh*res) as Sexy kittens ->>
but Erdogan's Chief Diyanet Mullahs are getting wages paid from Taxes paid on Licences issues to Prostitues and national gambling dens - do Saudis do this ??
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If Turkey is an islamic country it should declare it other wise stick to ataturk with minor adjustments, and time tested policy.

Ergodan has done alright to bring sick man of europe up, He can handle former colonies and ex colonial powers of Europe,

but he is a out of depth novice in Asia - you easily forget him coming to try and bail out Nawaz Sharif during the Protests and Imran boycotted his speech - was that Saudi pressure then ?

Please grow out of this obsessive bahvous on Israel, Saudi and whoeever elwe you find to obseess about !
Realpolitik is the oder of the day

- I dare you to stand and ask turkey for money for your ecnonomy, what happened, if i wwere saudis id tellthe pakistani to shove it and hire another mercanary country and let the deluisional paksitnains public find out how much the nturks and Iranians will really pay them or how long it is before they are sold for the lowest price to the Indian Union?

Only a Musharraf could handle East and West like a true ruthleess leader - Shimon Peres used to pray for him every night, thats the real deal !

Erdogan will bite off more than he can chew with asia - he is aligned with Inndian Union and is also in afghanistan as Nato - which most pakistani consier NAto in afghanistan beyond its expiry date and suspect ot as offensive posture to Pakistnianns, so ergocan has to answer that too

Plus he got whoppped in recent Operations in Syria - so many broken Leopard Tanks, the Trump intervention was life saver for him otherwise the war would have been fought in turkish cities by now...

So please calm down and watch erdogan open a temple next month for Moody in Qatar, after all he has to out arab the arabs...
 
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If india gets in then Pakistan should accept isreal is a state and ally of Pakistan, while leaving the OIC.

Pakistan should Immediately establish a liason office under OIC garb in Jerusalem,
to make the Qatari-Turkish factoin of the Arab union and Palestine's Indian Union allies wet early, and appoint itself as Main negotiator.

deal with them like Trump does....

Additionally take permanent 5 year chairman seat of OIC and negotiate each issue to completion then move onto next instead of spaghetti of all at once - and leave arab-israel to the end (cut out palestineans deal diretly woth israel) put thid last on agenda,

start with Kashmir complete within time frame - let them get what theyre given anything more go fight for it themselves,

, then rohynga, then Turkestan, then kurdistan, etc


Israel should be made Upgrades Dialogue partner observer to OIC, Indian Union has no business there at OIC all, unless to summon them to hear the reoslution with no right of response (Observer Only) !

Israel is holy name of prophet Jacob in the Coran and The Jews and Israelites have a place in the Moslem relgion, despite perseciotns here and there, by letter and law they must protect Isrelies/Jewish to make sure they cant be wiped off the earth.

The level of liason (not embassy) can be worked on graduated conficne bilding ratchet system.

Diplomatically Indian buraucracy supports Plestine, but buys weapons from Israel, - no Reason Pakistan cant do same...
Recognise israel Buy weaopons from USA on the Cheap - would ease US aircraft sanctions
and remove unnecesarry reason for Israeli weapons sales rep advisors to be on LOC, and reduce spending on facing Indian Union...

Israel and pakistan actually face the same challenges, ironically enough

Israel has a secular government running what is by constitution a religious state (state of King David's city)
Pakistan has a secular goverment running what is by constuition a Religious state (State of Medina)

The dynamics are similar :
Israel faces 200 million Arabs to 6 million Israelis, US is a big help
Paksitan faces 1.3 Billion Indian Unionis to 220 million Pakistanians, US/China is a big help.

(posted in another thread: )


Saudis*would not mind this actually, they may even Fund it !

*Saudi Arabia is not a pan- arabist country either, its flag is incidentally the old ottoman flag but turks wont ever admit it.(Pan-arabists are those coutnries with lawrence made arab-revolt flags)

The solution of Kasmiri ios that they dont want Independence - they only use it as a bargainihg chip to get better status within Indian Union; until Mr. Moody callled bullshi** on their bluff.

even Imran Khan is on record for admitting only 30% (mostly ethnic pashtun) of Kashmir want independence, the rest want better deal within Indian Union whilst others deeply resent and fear dominatiojn by Pakistsani Punjabi \chaudgry caste.

The Chechens were all depoerted to siberia they came out of exile
- 1 million people with hear of lion and mountain wolf bravely beat 156 million people nation of USSR/Russia !!

Kashmiri do not want to fight, because they dont want freedom enough, entitlement complex of only limited autonomy witihn indian union.

Pakistan should focus on itself

Anyone who disagrees with Indian Union generally goes to Canada, and does keyboard Che guavara from there whilst stoned from cheap weed !

Pakistan would do good to honour thosewho emiograted but are paperless and stateless , yet Indian Union sikh gets free access from kartarpur without visa,

Not Justice from Imran Khan
 
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Anyone who disagrees with Indian Union generally goes to Canada, and does keyboard Che guavara from there whilst stoned from cheap weed !

that's a gross generalization.

there are good quality strains too for offer
 
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that's a gross generalization.

there are good quality strains too for offer

At that high purity grade of medicinal help even will not suffice to give them illusions of freedom or victory
- unfortunately they are that deeply psycholigically subjugated.
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I think Pakistanians should made LOC a Permanent Border, and shine it - BUILD A WALL !

There is nothing to stop the Populations within the Indian Union deciding their own future - they seem to be pretty adamant about doing things themselves.
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Continuing On the topic thread OIC and Kashmir, heres an idea that would be worth looking at/adapting:

The OIC would do better to Operate as a humanitarian organisation rather than Political aims.

1. - Since Pakistanians contribute Regularly to the UN Missions;

and they have an oversupply of Medical Professionals unable to gain employement in the Middle East,
as well as an oversupply of ex-mil/large mil as protecting attached peacekeper force
(to guard the Medics not to control the warring factions)

It is easily possible to for Pakistan to initiate with KSA and Start OIC Medical Corps, and deploy to these so places Trump has baptised S***hole nations.

~ Serves the Soft-Power Influence, and bridge building with sorting conflicts in nations.

Since the conflicts are inevtiable, casualty and wounded are also going to inevtiable and guaranteed
- so its better to focus on the humanitarian sides, since no moslem military alone is able to intervene alone
nor sustain common intervention... [Arab-Israeli wars a ke lesson, Turks almost getting handed on a plate by rag-tag SDF in Northern Syria]

Gen Mush was keen on OIC peacekeeper force, filling a void left by the UN for Somali in Darfur back in 2006/07 but this was not possible due to lack of support at home.

~ Full on Peacekeeper mission is a step to far for OIC type disempowered organisation,
~but Medics and humanitarian focus would work really well, and infrastructure is already there for this,
simply change the signage on the UN contributions vehicles, etc, to OIC


2. In the Kashmir context -
it would create a Bargaining Chip with Indian Union to allow those Arab Nations who have good relations with Indian Union to Really offer its role in De-escalating, by Insisting on offering Humanirtarian assistance to those below - for the Indian Union it gives an opportunity to avoid negative publicity and civildiscontent... justifiable by the OIC given the two mian points below :

>> Indian Union has taken the Stand, with CAA act, that indian union is the International Guarantor of Hindus (or other Vedic/Dharmic religions it feels), welfare and wellbeing Hindus all over the world are its concern- this is interfering in the Internal affairs of many foriegn country's, so it has Internationlised its internal conflicts and opened the doors for other relignios within its borders to have external guarantors by this stand too. !!

-->>> Likewise the OIC would do well to procure a similar statement, and take Responsibility for Jews*, Chrsitians* and Moslems* in Humanitarian Assistance, This will create a diplomatic right/backdrop, of moral standing, and backed by a humanitarian Medical corps - there is actually some baby teeth to this organsiation now to bite and demand ...

It will open the doors for co-operation with Israel and Europe/Russia in common interest regions;

~Anti-Jewish Persecuition is still high within Indian Union
>Practice of Jewish religion is very covert and hidden, kosher meat is banned by Veg Vigilantes, synagogues can only opeate in majoirty Moslem areas and Jews have to hide as Moslesm or Parsees.
> Aggradisation glorification of Mein Kampt (most sold book in Indian Union) and R-SS Cadres Gestapo running the show,

~Anti-Christian Persecution is very rife and instituional in the Indian Union
>Christians are highly persecuted, and treated like 4th class citizens, as the fifht column of Jesuit Neo-colonialists, and Church breaking is more common than Mosque breaking.
>Christian conversions are seen as Colonisation by Europeans, and works and memory of Mother teresa is regularly abused and treated badly.

3. Since Pakistan is the dominant Labour provider and Military force both in Arab Countries and Pakistan itself, and indeeed within Arab Militaries,

The prospects of the Medical corps having lonmgevity success by a strong backer - if some attacked a nuclear powers peacekeeper troops it would have serious consequences...like realistic prospect of being turned in to Mushroom soup.

[*Moslem coran law demands that the Moslems should stand up for these groups of abrahamic faith , Jewish, Xtians as a priority and urgency rather striclty]

Pakistan and Saudi Arabia should actively take over the OIC and split the financial and Manpower role, and really go full out on humanitarian intervention.

~ it can help in Afganistan, Kashmir(force comprised of via other arab countries, egypt/uae etc)
and Somalia, Yemen, possible iraq and Syria.

For the OIC to have a proper standing it has to operate either as USAID or as US ARMY...otherwise paper tigers like Erdogans of this world ought to stay shut up.

Let AKP's Turkey try its own thing with Qatar and malaysia and Fre-nemy Iran; at best they would be a fifth column ; Ataturks Turkey was a better ally for the Moslem-Arab world at large.

If Turkey wants to participate then it iwll have to play ball not Erdogans weekly menstrual cycle regulated mood swings...the turkish army has very bad reputation since failed syria, due to Erdogan not the army itself.

He created bad feling for Turkish army by unnnecesarily placing people in harms way on gaza flotilla, which created a harmful backdrop and bad reputation for Turkish troops, who had positive reputation in the West due to Korea conflict.

the turks would unfortunatel not be able to be part of this Humanitarian focrce, they Run TIka anywayso they wont care much, but as usual Erdogan would like to claim some glory even for something as normal as a still day or the morning rain !

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Concluision:

So all in all for Kashmir and other conflicts, the OIC has to be domniated by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia for Huminaitarian and isolate the Iran-Erdogan(Turkey is not Erdgoan)-Indian Union axis

If I was IK I would give up claims on IOJK, and permanent Build an international border wall on LOC...recognise the new situation, in return for Indian recognition of AJK.
(hes already doing opart of this anyway with stopping people crossing the border in IOJK from AJK )

[Trump would really want this, for his Nobel peace Prize, OIC can be an acknoleded party for its 'efforts']

(* this will make the Internal strife Indian Union's internal problem, as it so desires, so CAA, 370, 35a and Demonitisation should be regulated within its own cesspit, there would be nothing stopping the Kashmiri IOJK to work within their own borders with other groups or themselves so sort out their own affairs, OIC could continue to make genral statments on general state of Moslems, and Abrahamic Minoirities within the Indian Union)

(*Also means no more unwanted guests getting lost and selling Mig29 for Pink Kashmiri tea, leaving " Tea fantastic" google reviews !)

Humanitarian Medical Corps is the Order of the day, it would fit in well iwith IK narrative on justice for the weak.

Pakistan too is reluctant to take repsonsibility otheriwse it risks becoming delusional in bheliveing its own propaganda like Ergodan.


Secondly, since the ICRC red crescent, red cross, and Magen David work together, there are commmon interest whewre OIC and Israel can workd together and do this under OIC umbrealla too, given saudi tilt to Israel, and evangelical Chrsitians in US.

Same like Israeli-Pakistanian cooperation during Soviet Invasion of afganistan in 80's, albeit on a Hunamiarian level.

Air Marshal Nur Khan and Israeli Pres. Weizmman were very close during their RAF days.

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