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If that is the case than it is more likely that PAF who shot down one of American helicopter. How many US seals were killed in that downed helicopter ?
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Can u explain a bit further?The story changed at the last moment when the Obama administration panicked as the chopper crashed. To get ahead of it they threw Kayani under the bus.
And thus making all of us look like spineless, clueless, incompetents. And simultaneously harbouring the world’s most wanted terrorist.
A big kudos to the army leadership who oversaw this national embarrassment, you perhaps could not have done worse if you tried.
Can u explain a bit further?
Perhaps, but WE are talking about American warmachine here. They know virtually everything about the art of conventional warfare and technologies in use worldwide.Or the permission to kill chinhook never came from Ground Control. IF F-16 was close enough to kill him, it meant he had a lock on helicopter.
PAF jets were in search of these helicopters (after) they had left Abbottabad. Study the chain-of-events first.So heli manages to evade PAF pilots and F-16's but blows up by itself after killing Osama and then they decide to bury Osama the next day without showing his face to anyone (even though they did the same thing with Saddam's sons) and that too into the sea according to some Islamic tradition that no one in this world has heard of so that his body can never be found or tested to see if it was real. Makes sense.
for many of the people who take the words from americans as the words from their god whatever you mentioned was 100% true and they will never ask for any evidence. they will admit whatever they are told by americans.So heli manages to evade PAF pilots and F-16's but blows up by itself after killing Osama and then they decide to bury Osama the next day without showing his face to anyone (even though they did the same thing with Saddam's sons) and that too into the sea according to some Islamic tradition that no one in this world has heard of so that his body can never be found or tested to see if it was real. Makes sense.
1. US is nobody's God, but it is a technological juggernaut.for many of the people who take the words from americans as the words from their god whatever you mentioned was 100% true and they will never ask for any evidence. they will admit whatever they are told by americans.
ask our elite and you will come to know what US is for them. it was a world class humiliation for pakistan and that's not a secret. if pakistanis cant shoot down a couple of helis that reached abbotabad from west and hovered over a major military set up then it clearly points out that it was not the matter of defense capability but the lack of will. please dont act like a pml n supporter who tend to defend every mistake of their leaders. abbotabad incident was simply a shameful chapter in our history like 71. this is a bitter reality.1. US is nobody's God
2. You are not privy to top secrets of conventional warfare.
3. Pakistani defenses are not infallible.
Bro,ask our elite and you will come to know what US is for them. it was a world class humiliation for pakistan and that's not a secret. if pakistanis cant shoot down a couple of helis that reached abbotabad from west and hovered over a major military set up then it clearly points out that it was not the matter of defense capability but the lack of will. please dont act like a pml n supporter who tend to defend every mistake of their leaders. abbotabad incident was simply a shameful chapter in our history like 71. this is a bitter reality.
Now here is the wise man.The USA has got OBL, Pak has got Afganistan via the Taliban...
Not a bad deal in my books....
i didnt mention about the capability of our military. i only talked about the lack of will by the decision makers. if those F-16 would have given clearance by our decision makers to bring the helis down i am sure they would have done it with ease but a final order should have been there by someone which was not there.Bro,
It is glaringly apparent from comments in this thread that how many lack in judgement and how many clueless people out there. Many do not even understand the chain-of-events of the raid properly. Many do not even trust Pakistan's own report on the matter. Shame.
The technical capability of PAF in shooting down a helicopter is not in question here. Of-course, any visible and vulnerable helicopter can be shot down.
However, helicopters vastly differ from each other in intended roles and technologies onboard. Refer to details in this post: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/osam...-paf-f-16-3-times.657334/page-3#post-12154909
There is no comparison between USA and India in the matters of defense. They can/will humilitate India in conventional warfare as well.