NWFP

[Pakhtoon yum]

Well said, I am not fond of the name either, its just too long. I liked your logic on the name being Afghania as it was listed in the original demand for Pakistan, but i would still be happy if they reduced the name to just "Khyber"



I am trying to find info on how it got the name Hazara, i still sometimes get confused on the place Hazara to Hazara the people.



My family is from Swabi as well, are you Yousafzai too?



He actually does have comprehension issue, he once went bonkers on me about how middle-east is the oldest civilization and all CAS people are equal to animals because they are nomads, when my post was about area names.

Yes, Khyber is perfect too

Please do not generalize. I am from Hazara.

I assume he means the people not the people from the place

To me the name doesn’t matter.



I was not onboard but didn’t hated the decision.



So is JUI , MQM, PPP, PMLN, and elements in PTI.



School ki ganti hy kia jo hr class ky baad bajy ge ? Ya desposible glass hy ky hr use ky bad change kro ?



No it doesn’t. What you have to say about Punjab(i), Sindh(i), Baluch(istan)... ?? Seems we all are different then and everyone is a less Pakistani . No ?



NWFP was not a name... its like when someone ask “bhai ye naai ki dukan kidhr h ?” And he says “Yahan se Left pe das qadm” and you name the Naai shop “YSLPDQ”. Does it make sense ? KP is more of representation of the people and land... Khyber(land)-Pakhtoonkhwa(People)....



Your choice.



Let us rename claifornia to “Iqbalabad” for them and see how they react.



Bhai had a thought... let him discuss it so that it do not bother him in future.



Many MPA’s from hazara voted in favor of this decision. Dont remember the exact mumber but it was a good number of MPA’s.



I guess people got killed after they burn down cantt police station. Now i am not sure which incident happen before but since after that day there is no “demand” for a separate province in hazara except that single baba.



Split the country im divisions and name them

Division A
Division B
Division C
Division D

For all we care

Thanks that's intresting to hear. But I agree with @Imad.Khan, should be something short and sweet.

The KPK/NWFP province should be named "Gandhara" which was its name until 1000 AD.



Germany's area is same as Balochistan province of Pakistan, but Germany has 16 provinces each called "Bundesland" in german language which means "Federal State" in english. Every province/bundesland has its own provincial parliament and elected "chief minister" called "Ministerpräsident". So it is wrong to generalize that "european" countries have no provinces. In fact all german provinces/Bundesländer have their own flags too. The only difference between Germany and Pakistan I feel is that unlike Pakistan Germany has a "proportional representation" based electoral system where parties are given seats according to their vote share in any given election, but there is a minimum threshold to enter into parliament which is to get at least 5% of the total vote share that are cast in a given election, this way the "tanga parties" that get less than 5% of the total vote shares remain outside of federal and provincial parliaments.

Gandhara is sweet and short too.

i have a different opinion
after merger of FATA to KPK, i believe, Pakistan now have a new power house that is not Punjab and Sindh. looking at KPK as of today and looking into the future i see a future of Pakistan. yes the name KPK might not be a good one to represent the province. that aside i believe, when we are going to have Punjab divided into two provinces, for the first time Pakistan going to have 4 kind of equally sized provinces with similar wazan (urdu). this is a good sign.

future --> this will pave the way for merging GB and dividing Baluchistan into two administrative units. hence giving Pakistan 7 provinces over next 10 years.

In a perfect government and country. The state would encourage competition between all the provinces and decide on a foreign country that, the province would need to compete with.

 

[war&peace]

He actually does have comprehension issue, he once went bonkers on me about how middle-east is the oldest civilization and all CAS people are equal to animals because they are nomads, when my post was about area names.

Either comprehension issue or agenda when someone is deliberately misreading, misquoting and misinterpreting your words and extracting negative connotations.

Well said, I am not fond of the name either, its just too long. I liked your logic on the name being Afghania as it was listed in the original demand for Pakistan, but i would still be happy if they reduced the name to just "Khyber"

Yup, it should have been named Afghania. Pakhtoonkha should be dropped but it was ANP govt and this naming thing was not done on any merit but this group shiateen (PPP, PMLn and ANP) wanted to pass 18th amendment that weakens the federation.

 

[I.R.A]

I am trying to find info on how it got the name Hazara,

Its Turkish origin, actually their soldiers who were posted there, their formations would be called Hazara. There are remains of fort(s) in areas at the outskirts of Mansehra (lassa nawab etc). The Abbottabad city itself was a water lake. The only passage in old times would be the one from that Haripur side.

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It shouldn't have been ANP that got to change the name of NWFP, they are a racist bunch. The name could have been more accommodating and considerate of sensitivities of everyone involved. But then again it has remained useless to expect anything from Peshawar .......... like the idiot Pervaiz Khattak once said "May pathano ka wazir e ala ho."

 

[hamilcar of carthage]

Well said, I am not fond of the name either, its just too long. I liked your logic on the name being Afghania as it was listed in the original demand for Pakistan, but i would still be happy if they reduced the name to just "Khyber"



I am trying to find info on how it got the name Hazara, i still sometimes get confused on the place Hazara to Hazara the people.



My family is from Swabi as well, are you Yousafzai too?



He actually does have comprehension issue, he once went bonkers on me about how middle-east is the oldest civilization and all CAS people are equal to animals because they are nomads, when my post was about area names.

yes

 

[ghazi52]

Per .......Wikipedia

"The origin of the name Hazāra is obscure." This source continues: "It has been identified with Abisāra, the country of Abisares, the chief of the Indian mountaineers at the time of Alexander's invasion.

The name Hazara has also been derived from Urasā, or 'Urasha', an ancient Sanskrit name for this region, according to Aurel Stein. Some Indologists including H. C. Raychaudhury, B. N. Mukerjee, B. C. Law, J. C. Vidyalankar, M. Witzel, M. R. Singh and K. N. Dhar concur with Stein's identification of modern Hazara with ancient Urasa.

Evidence from the seventh-century Chinese traveller Xuanzang, in combination with much earlier evidence from the Hindu Itihasa the Mahabharata, attests that Poonch and Hazara District of Kashmir had formed parts of the ancient state of Kamboja, whose rulers followed a republican form of government.

 

[Crusher]

Evidence from the seventh-century Chinese traveller Xuanzang, in combination with much earlier evidence from the Hindu Itihasa the Mahabharata, attests that Poonch and Hazara District of Kashmir had formed parts of the ancient state of Kamboja, whose rulers followed a republican form of government.

Kamboja's were such an iconic people in the late iron age, they were ruling every place from Tajikistan to Kabul to peshawar to Kashmir before Alexander's invasion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kambojas

 

[Zibago]

I bet if a referendum is held in KPK, 90% of people will say they are fine with the name.



So one person lost his packages so he wants the name of the entire province changed. This kind of selfishness is the reason why Pakistan is the way it is today. Laga reh

He is a noon leagi and he is concerned with treason
He should start with Nawaz Butt and Mariyam Safdar

 

[Well.wisher]

Sarhad was more easy to pronounce though than khaba khaba pakhtoon kha ..
Just kidding ..

 

[El Sidd]

Khyber and Pakhtoonkha are two geographical realities.

names fine.

only Afghania sounds better.

 

[Zibago]

Sarhad was more easy to pronounce though than khaba khaba pakhtoon kha ..
Just kidding ..

Why not just call it Subah Hazara
@I.R.A @RealNapster

 

[Well.wisher]

Why not just call it Subah Hazara
@I.R.A @RealNapster

Phir aur ptm ANP jesi tehreeken janam leni ..

 

[RealNapster]

Why not just call it Subah Hazara
@I.R.A @RealNapster

Why not.... i vote for it.