Not waiting for phone call from Biden, says PM Imran

[Taimoor Khan]

Wake us when Pakistan gives bases to US ( which is not happening and will not happen). Lets see if its just for public consumption or for real. Besides why is US trying so hard looking for bases in central asia if it does not need one? Even they and Russia is doing this for public consumption.
Pakistan was their first preference, got denied and nkw they are asking everywhere else. After the clear refusal, denial is face saving 101.

Our position is clear diplomatic communication is normal, if you have noticed the difference in tweets and the arguments after Moeed meeting. America is not getting and will not get what it wants, FATF, IMF and putting Pakistan army in child labour list out of nowhere does not happen without a reason. Its because of the stand political leadership took at this crutial moment in Afghanistan.

Gen Bajwa was asked the same questiin by Shehbaz Sharif and the answer was quite clear " it was not my decision but PM's"

You are trying to convince people who can literally piss over Pakistan own national narrative just because of "Bughz-e-Imran" .

 

[VCheng]

He’s a stoic man, and he must have a stellar poker face. A weaker man might find it hard to pull off the delivery of that sentence without at least smirking.

Speaking of smirking, Gen Zia would have delivered that line with a touch of his famous mustache.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Incorrect, at the time the discussion was ONLY and only about the Pakistan giving bases to America for it to conduct its air operations in Afghanistan. GLOC and ALOC are different issue altogether, but hey your intellectual summersaults are well noted and so was the American desperation to find bases. . Was Putin trolling with you lot when he offered the bases in central Asia?

There are currently two opposing streams of debate abroad. One was yours, which is that the US asked for bases, IK denied. etc. The other is that they never asked for bases, but may have asked for an air corridor, which at least for now it seems has not been denied.

I have to hand it to Moeed Yusuf, he's a savvy fellow, and he's straddling both these lines simultaneously. One for political purposes, the other for pragmatic.

 

[VCheng]

I bet they do, the reason so many are having a burn these days since none was accustomed to such a behavior in the past. In the past all it took was a phone call to bend over and spread wide, many so proudly quote as an example, reality is it was damn shameful moments of our history and instead of quoting it like a stupid characterless moron, one needs to call it for what it is.
The world may not like IK specially the US but they will respect him and Pakistan, that is a given. You can carry on with IMF this and that but in reality it did not happen despite FATF, despite Indian terrorism, despite other arm twisting including accusing PA of using children as soldiers.
Now you are flying from Qatar all the way saying hey we never asked for bases, but in reality you threw everything just to get a base.
Biden is the guy who held NS by the neck, this is the kind of man they are use to in Pakistan, hence we can see his frustration and so called arrogance. Mark my words US and Biden can hate IK for all that matters, but they will come to terms and respect him. This is in their nature.

The proof of the proverbial pudding is in the eating, right? Whatever PMIK is saying or doing (or not), will all need to be judged by whether it is good or bad for Pakistan in the long run. Let us see how he fares in that regards over the remainder of his term, first.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

LOL! Did you notice how Pakistan has kept quiet about bases after it was made public that USA never asked for them in the first place? Ab zaban kahan kho gaye?

Who made public dude? Any official name? at what level it was said? or we are talking about "an official who didnt want to be named" . Did Putin was trolling with you? And what was with you with Pakistan and America finding a compromise over bases issue? HAHA

 

[VCheng]

Who made public dude? Any official name? at what level it was said? or we are talking about "an official who didnt want to be named" . Did Putin was trolling with you? And what was with you with Pakistan and America finding a compromise over bases issue? HAHA

LOL. So Pakistan decided to shut up about the issue all by themselves?

 

[Jungibaaz]

Speaking of smirking, Gen Zia would have delivered that line with a touch of his famous mustache.

I just pictured it too. Only an open coup brings that kind of shining confidence. None of this half-measure hybrid regime stuff.

 

[VCheng]

I have to hand it to Moeed Yusuf, he's a savvy fellow, and he's straddling both these lines simultaneously. One for political purposes, the other for pragmatic.

He has an impossible task, and is headed towards utter failure, quite predictably.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

There are currently two opposing streams of debate abroad. One was yours, which is that the US asked for bases, IK denied. etc. The other is that they never asked for bases, but may have asked for an air corridor, which at least for now it seems has not been denied.

I have to hand it to Moeed Yusuf, he's a savvy fellow, and he's straddling both these lines simultaneously. One for political purposes, the other for pragmatic.

Who denied from American side that they never asked for the bases? Any names of individuals?

You have to look at what yanks have been upto, the rush to central Asia and Putin giving olive branch to yanks to use their basis in central Asia. Its all connected. Lets learn to call spade a spade

 

[Patriot forever]

He’s a stoic man, and he must have a stellar poker face. A weaker man might find it hard to pull off the delivery of that sentence without at least smirking.

The thing is when the PM wants and says the same thing, there is no need. The governemnt and armed forces thinking process is the same, we have never seen such synergy before ( because for the first time our civil government is not being influenced from outside and can resist pressure) Thats why i say i feel very confident the way Afghanistan is being handled. US is finding a scapegoat, and demanding all sorts of ridiculous things,
1) Airbase
2) Open border for refugees and the latest
3) Take action against Taliban.

We have roped in China and Russia, and are resisting and will continue resisting these ridiculous demands.

 

[VCheng]

The thing is when the PM wants and says the same thing, there is no need. The governemnt and armed forces thinking process is the same, we have never seen such synergy before ( because for the first time our civil governemnt is not being influenced from outside and can resist pressure) Thats why i say i feel very confident the way Afghanistan is being handled. US is finding a scapegoat, and demanding all sorts of ridiculous things,
1) Airbase
2) Open border for refugees and the latest
3) Take action against Taliban.

We have roped in China and Russia, and are resisting and will continue resisting these ridiculous demands.

If any of that is true, then surely Pakistan will win in this conflict for all the world to see. Right?

 

[Taimoor Khan]

LOL. So Pakistan decided to shut up about the issue all by themselves?

What do you mean dude? the chief executive of Pakistan gave the "shut up call" when he said "absolutely not". What else you want ? ... what is there to say after that?

Do you have any name of the official in Biden admin who refuted this?

 

[VCheng]

the chief executive of Pakistan gave the "shut up call" when he said "absolutely not".

LOL. He blurted it out in response to a question by a journalist during an interview. Exactly what effect that has on policy is zero.

 

[Patriot forever]

If any of that is true, then surely Pakistan will win in this conflict for all the world to see. Right?

Actually everthing is going as planned.
Who do you think played the bridge between China and Taliban.
The recent russian envoy statement about Pakistan.

Our strategic security and national interest is guiding our policy in Afghanistan not external influence. If we had followed Americas dictation at this crutial moment we would have fell right in the trap and suffered greatly.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

LOL. He blurted it out in response to a question by a journalist during an interview. Exactly what effect that has on policy is zero.

His statement is the policy.

Did you find the name of Biden admin official refuting that they never asked for bases in Pakistan? Why Putin was offering you bases, any ideas?