Not waiting for phone call from Biden, says PM Imran

[Sharma Ji]

Not waiting since Jan 20th lol

Didn't Imran call him to congratulate him as is custom after Biden got the Presidency ?

Corpse Biden is also barely clinging on to his cognitive abilities and fast slipping into dementia..

IK will probably have to deal with Kamla Devi once her handlers feel confident enough to let her speak to him.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

We are at an impasse, let’s agree to disagree. As for the rest of your previous post that I did not address, it wasn’t that I hadn’t read or understood it. I disagreed with it and did not address it.

Trump administration contacts which you mentioned were a different matter, we had the Saudis set up IK’s meeting via Jared Kushner. Biden is a different man, he knows the region and Pakistan far better, and we IK if given a similar opportunity would follow through wholeheartedly, although Trump is easier to influence in person. Anyway I digress. Disagree...

Its doesnt matter how PMIK and Trump personal repo was established, the point is, that is how Pak-America relations and mutual matters were dealt with, one to one basis, top leadership dealing with issues. American withdrawal from Afghanistan only, and I repeat, only happened due to this one to one relationship. Had there been pets of American establishment in white house, like it is now, America would still be there in Afghanistan right now.

 

[VCheng]

Just a reminder, you were very boastful of you lot finding a compromise with Pakistan on airbases issue. What happened there? Didnt want to bring it to embarrass you but hey you asked for it.

Even Pakistan has admitted no bases were asked for. PMIK just blurted out his thoughts upon being asked a question by a reporter. There is no issue here.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Even Pakistan has admitted no bases were asked for. PMIK just blurted out his thoughts upon being asked a question by a reporter. There is no issue here.

Yup, I mistakenly read too much into his words about the base and assumed one must have been asked for. As was the case with Shamsi for example.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Even Pakistan has admitted no bases were asked for. PMIK just blurted out his thoughts upon being asked a question by a reporter. There is no issue here.

HAHAHA, you are funny, if there was no "request" from yanks for bases in Pakistan, what you were boasting about that a compromise will be reached between Pakistan and America on this matter?

 

[waz]

No call coming as Biden is a busy bee trying to fight China, trying to fight Russia, putting the slap on Turkey, ignoring Pakistan (even though sending VIP's), trying to throw the Afghan government lifelines, trying to rally indifferent Europe to face China, trying to ease tensions between S.Korea and Japan, trying to ease bitter divisions at home and trying to stay awake.

 

[Patriot forever]

Even Pakistan has admitted no bases were asked for. PMIK just blurted out his thoughts upon being asked a question by a reporter. There is no issue here.

Its just a coverup by US, you can call it facesaving, after a balant refusal by Pakistan. Everyone knows the drill here.
Its out everywhere that US is looking around the entire central Asian belt after Pakistan refusal.

 

[SD 10]

"As far as I know after [August] 31, the Americans are going to stop all sorts of [operations], even air attacks in Afghanistan," he said.


The bold part, the most important piece of information from the story. Should have made the headline tbh.

Pakistan pulling the plug from GLOC and ALOC after 31st August??

I dont think that establishment has the balls

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I dont think that establishment has the balls

You are fully entitled to your opinions, but that is what chief executive of Pakistan is saying.

 

[VCheng]

what you were boasting about that a compromise will be reached between Pakistan and America on this matter?

What I actually said was that as long as USA has air corridor access, bases are not needed, and that a suitable compromise will be reached after you claimed that the airspace would be closed after 9/11/2021.

Its just a coverup by US, you can call it facesaving, after a balant refusal by Pakistan. Everyone knows the drill here.
Its out everywhere that US is looking around the entire central Asian belt after Pakistan refusal.

What's next? Pakistan has denied US spaceships for landing rights in Pakistan, when none are needed? These are merely tired old cheap tactics used to buildup a fake ironman image that works only on the internal gullible audience. The world clearly sees PMIK as who he is, actually, and not as he wishes to be seen, the present phone call, or the lack thereof, being just another example.

I dont think that establishment has the balls

There is no such thing as balls or the lack thereof in international geopolitics. The establishment will do whatever it takes to serve national interests as it defines them.

No call coming as Biden is a busy bee trying to fight China, trying to fight Russia, putting the slap on Turkey, ignoring Pakistan (even though sending VIP's), trying to throw the Afghan government lifelines, trying to rally indifferent Europe to face China, trying to ease tensions between S.Korea and Japan, trying to ease bitter divisions at home and trying to stay awake.

Actually none of that. He is focused on the budget and the infrastructure deal at the moment.

 

[Patriot forever]

Posturing. In all honesty, it would be great for us if we had good enough relations with the US administration.

There’s a reason our national security establishment has been on overdrive recently shoring up a “consensus” at home, briefing the government, opposition, and media separately. Meanwhile our top level security leadership and Moeed Yusuf are hard at work trying to secure a way forward in Washington.

IK has recently been in campaign mode, so I’d say this is definitely not worth taking seriously. It’s a statement meant for public consumption.

Wake us when Pakistan gives bases to US ( which is not happening and will not happen). Lets see if its just for public consumption or for real. Besides why is US trying so hard looking for bases in central asia if it does not need one? Even they and Russia is doing this for public consumption.
Pakistan was their first preference, got denied and nkw they are asking everywhere else. After the clear refusal, denial is face saving 101.

Our position is clear diplomatic communication is normal, if you have noticed the difference in tweets and the arguments after Moeed meeting. America is not getting and will not get what it wants, FATF, IMF and putting Pakistan army in child labour list out of nowhere does not happen without a reason. Its because of the stand political leadership took at this crutial moment in Afghanistan.

Gen Bajwa was asked the same questiin by Shehbaz Sharif and the answer was quite clear " it was not my decision but PM's"

 

[IceCold]

The world clearly sees PMIK as who he is, actually

I bet they do, the reason so many are having a burn these days since none was accustomed to such a behavior in the past. In the past all it took was a phone call to bend over and spread wide, many so proudly quote as an example, reality is it was damn shameful moments of our history and instead of quoting it like a stupid characterless moron, one needs to call it for what it is.
The world may not like IK specially the US but they will respect him and Pakistan, that is a given. You can carry on with IMF this and that but in reality it did not happen despite FATF, despite Indian terrorism, despite other arm twisting including accusing PA of using children as soldiers.
Now you are flying from Qatar all the way saying hey we never asked for bases, but in reality you threw everything just to get a base.
Biden is the guy who held NS by the neck, this is the kind of man they are use to in Pakistan, hence we can see his frustration and so called arrogance. Mark my words US and Biden can hate IK for all that matters, but they will come to terms and respect him. This is in their nature.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Wake us when Pakistan gives bases to US ( which is not happening and will not happen). Lets see if its just for public consumption or for real.

Where did I say we’d give them bases? Please wake me instead when you arrive at the conversation.

Gen Bajwa was asked the same questiin by Shehbaz Sharif and the answer was quite clear " it was not my decision but PM's"

He’s a stoic man, and he must have a stellar poker face. A weaker man might find it hard to pull off the delivery of that sentence without at least smirking.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

What I actually said was that as long as USA has air corridor access, bases are not needed, and that a suitable compromise will be reached after you claimed that the airspace would be closed after 9/11/2021.

Incorrect, at the time the discussion was ONLY and only about the Pakistan giving bases to America for it to conduct its air operations in Afghanistan. GLOC and ALOC are different issue altogether, but hey your intellectual summersaults are well noted and so was the American desperation to find bases. . Was Putin trolling with you lot when he offered the bases in central Asia?

 

[VCheng]

Incorrect, at the time the discussion was ONLY and only about the Pakistan giving bases to America for it to conduct its air operations in Afghanistan. GLOC and ALOC are different issue altogether, but hey your intellectual summersaults are well noted and so was the American desperation to find bases. . Was Putin trolling with you lot when he offered the bases in central Asia?

LOL! Did you notice how Pakistan has kept quiet about bases after it was made public that USA never asked for them in the first place? Ab zaban kahan kho gaye?