Not Hindu-Muslim, We are Bengali first: Awami League Minister in Kolkata

[Omar Al-Deek]

You agree this is about a Country called BANGLAdesh?

You agree with Surah Al-Fatiha?

[All] praise is [due] to Allah, Lord of the worlds -

-Surah Al-Fatiha 1:2

You are a blasphemer if you say Allah is Lord of the worlds but not Lord over Bangladesh.

 

[El Sidd]

You agree with Surah Al-Fatiha?

[All] praise is [due] to Allah, Lord of the worlds -

-Surah Al-Fatiha 1:2

You are a blasphemer if you say Allah is Lord of the worlds but not Lord over Bangladesh.

Do you agree that Bangladesh came into being After they rebelled against the Kalima?

That makes them Khawarij and everything is fair when it comes to Khawarij.

Dont try and Muslim blackmail me. I Play that game better fyi

 

[Species]

Do you agree that Bangladesh came into being After they rebelled against the Kalima?

Pakistan ka matlab kya - La Ilaha Ilallah!

 

[El Sidd]

Pakistan ka matlab kya - La Ilaha Ilallah!

let the Pakistani answer Japanese Bengali

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

Do you agree that Bangladesh came into being After they rebelled against the Kalima?

That makes them Khawarij and everything is fair when it comes to Khawarij.

Dont try and Muslim blackmail me. I Play that game better fyi

I think the Kalima thing is a specifically Asian concept......

"The Six Kalimah (from Arabic كلمة‎ kalimah "word") in Islam in South Asia are six significant parts of one's religious belief, mostly taken from hadiths (in some traditions, six phrases, then known as the six kalimas[clarification needed]).

The first of them, known as the ''kalimat tayyibah or "word of purity", second is called the shahada, third "tamjeed", fourth "tawheed", fifth "istighfar" and sixth is called "radde kufr". Recitation of the six kalimas is taught in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and other Muslim countries' madrasas"

I don't mean anything against Asians or anything like that..... Muslims from anywhere are my brothers.... but I have heard Muslims from Asia refer to the Kalima thing and it confuses me.... I don't understand that concept........

you seem to say the Bengalis are Khawarij......

I'm not sure if the Bengalis who fought Pakistan qualify as Khawarij......

I haven't discussed that..... I was only saying that Muslims should be Muslim first and their nationality should be second.......

as far as any issues you might have with Bangladesh....... this is not something I'm super educated about..... I know very basic things like I have heard very basic things as far as Muhammad Jinnah, Muhammad Iqbal, Two Nation Theory..... I don't claim to understand the subcontinent better than you or others who are from there do..... no way...... I'm from a different part of the world......

we as Muslims must always be Muslim first and this I feel justified in saying as it is a basic universal principle which applies in all parts of the world for all Muslims.........

as far as Bangladesh.... no way am I siding with Bangladesh against Pakistan or anything like that..... no way was I even commenting anything like that...... I think it was unfortunate that Bangladesh split from Pakistan and I wish they would have stayed united because I want all Muslims to be united...... but as far as issues which are very specific to that region...... no way do I claim to know more than the people of that region

 

[El Sidd]

I think the Kalima thing is a specifically Asian concept......

"The Six Kalimah (from Arabic كلمة‎ kalimah "word") in Islam in South Asia are six significant parts of one's religious belief, mostly taken from hadiths (in some traditions, six phrases, then known as the six kalimas[clarification needed]).

The first of them, known as the ''kalimat tayyibah or "word of purity", second is called the shahada, third "tamjeed", fourth "tawheed", fifth "istighfar" and sixth is called "radde kufr". Recitation of the six kalimas is taught in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and other Muslim countries' madrasas"

I don't mean anything against Asians or anything like that..... Muslims from anywhere are my brothers.... but I have heard Muslims from Asia refer to the Kalima thing and it confuses me.... I don't understand that concept........

you seem to say the Bengalis are Khawarij......

I'm not sure if the Bengalis who fought Pakistan qualify as Khawarij......

I haven't discussed that..... I was only saying that Muslims should be Muslim first and their nationality should be second.......

as far as any issues you might have with Bangladesh....... this is not something I'm super educated about..... I know very basic things like I have heard very basic things as far as Muhammad Jinnah, Muhammad Iqbal, Two Nation Theory..... I don't claim to understand the subcontinent better than you or others who are from there do..... no way...... I'm from a different part of the world......

we as Muslims must always be Muslim first and this I feel justified in saying as it is a basic universal principle which applies in all parts of the world for all Muslims.........

as far as Bangladesh.... no way am I siding with Bangladesh against Pakistan or anything like that..... no way was I even commenting anything like that...... I think it was unfortunate that Bangladesh split from Pakistan and I wish they would have stayed united because I want all Muslims to be united...... but as far as issues which are very specific to that region...... no way do I claim to know more than the people of that region

thats why i said when you are least informed its your muslim duty to stay away.

stay away from Bangladeshi threads.

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

thats why i said when you are least informed its your muslim duty to stay away.

stay away from Bangladeshi threads.

A Muslim should be Muslim first. This is not something region-specific. It applies universally, in all parts of the world.

 

[El Sidd]

A Muslim should be Muslim first. This is not something region-specific. It applies universally, in all parts of the world.

Be a human First is my advice to Moslems

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

Be a human First is my advice to Moslems

Then this is something theological. We are talking about universal religious principles.

I don't understand why or how you object to the simple, basic principle that a Muslim should be Muslim first

Does something come before Islam for you? Is there something that you put before Allah?

 

[El Sidd]

Then this is something theological. We are talking about universal religious principles.

I don't understand why or how you object to the simple, basic principle that a Muslim should be Muslim first

Does something come before Islam for you? Is there something that you put before Allah?

I simply dont forgive nor forget traitors.

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

I simply dont forgive nor forget traitors.

Islam teaches us certain universal principles.

We receive these universal principles from Islam and then in our lives we encounter particular situations.

Whatever your situation, you know your situation better than I do. Whatever particularities you encounter, whatever approach you take must be in line with what Islam teaches. You have to take what Islam teaches and apply it in whatever you situation you encounter. If you apply what Islam teaches this is good, if you violate what Islam teaches, it's wrong. So it's simply a question of applying what Islam teaches and our actions are good or bad on this basis. I don't claim to know your situation better than you do but you are my Muslim brother, I wish well for you and I simply hope that you act in accordance with Islam in whatever situation you find yourself in.

 

[bluesky]

But human beings aren't eternal either no?

But, probably, @Avicenna was talking about Eternal Paradise where people believe, rightfully or wrongfully, that only Muslims fulfill the criteria to enter without a question. Am I right or very wrong?

 

[Doctor Strange]

Identity politics of this sort "first and foremost" are recipe for disaster. People have multiple identities at the same time. There shouldn't be fuss over this. I'm irreligious, so religious identity isnt a big thing for me. For me Bengali identity also dont matter. My own identity matters most. Second closest thing I can agree with BD identity. So this guy must be talking for himself. And BAL is bankrupt on talent acquisition, so nothing better to be expected from these guys. There are many people in BD who has their own distinct identities more important to them than anything, like the Barishaillas.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Do you agree that Bangladesh came into being After they rebelled against the Kalima?

That makes them Khawarij and everything is fair when it comes to Khawarij.

Dont try and Muslim blackmail me. I Play that game better fyi

I’m not sure the Kalima said to **** other people’s mothers and wives and kill your own countrymen
Let’s keep the discussion on this fools statement instead.

 

[El Sidd]

I’m not sure the Kalima said to **** other people’s mothers and wives and kill your own countrymen
Let’s keep the discussion on this fools statement instead.

Nice Propaganda