No honest people in Pakistan

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[lem34]

A thoroughly corrupt system is extremely difficult to change due to just the reasons you suggest -- too many people would need to be replaced and not enough exist that are both competent and incorruptible. It may be hat only a ruthless purge such as was carried out by Stalin and Mao can change a corrupt culture quickly.

Thats why we need to follow the chinese way

 

[JonAsad]

et al.

Imran khan will never come into power until he compromises a little. The veteran siyasatdaan wont let him-

 

[Nothing]

The real problem is that we dont want to trust Imran Khan, but we can trust zardari and nawaz sharif, that's a sad fact.

Real problem is different .. people don't care about country they care about them .. I am talking about entire South Asia..
In day to day life we all do corruption directly or in directly.. even when we are buying half a KG sugar at shop .. we don't ask for bill .. that is also kind of corruption .. but when we have to speak bad word about our neighboring country we do at out best and shows how much we hate other .. rather and how much we love our country ..
Common man 20% 30% consumers of electricity do cheating in bills ..another 10% do have illegal connections .. 80% businessmen don't pay tax.. as mentioned in first post 1000s of student do cheating in Exam .. .. even if in past my teacher had told me to write exam with book open nothing will happen to you .. I might thought abt it .. that is our nature... we do speak big things but we do very bad things is real life.. all our big business houses do big time corruption.. still we take proud of them.. See news corp. they shut down their 150+ year old .. one of the most successful paper in week when public and politicians put pressure on them .. how many times that happens in our countries.. See 2G scam in India .. and I am sure Pakistan will have their own version ..

We don't learn core value of our religion .. but what we do learn is core values of corruption ...

sick of it .. what IK will do when some traffic police will take money from some driver as bribe.. we need cultural revolution .. but it will not gonna life few months of chaos and done.. we need to teach out children what is correct and what is not .. instead of who is our enemy .. if we train our new generation to become better citizen then might be in remote future we will see our country as first world country ..otherwise ..

yesterday it was Jamindars .. today it is politicians tomorrow it will be some one else who will gonna do all sort of corruption and people will still search for right leader to lead them

 

[Respect4Respect01]

Real problem is different .. people don't care about country they care about them .. I am talking about entire South Asia..
In day to day life we all do corruption directly or in directly.. even when we are buying half a KG sugar at shop .. we don't ask for bill .. that is also kind of corruption .. but when we have to speak bad word about our neighboring country we do at out best and shows how much we hate other .. rather and how much we love our country ..
Common man 20% 30% consumers of electricity do cheating in bills ..another 10% do have illegal connections .. 80% businessmen don't pay tax.. as mentioned in first post 1000s of student do cheating in Exam .. .. even if in past my teacher had told me to write exam with book open nothing will happen to you .. I might thought abt it .. that is our nature... we do speak big things but we do very bad things is real life.. all our big business houses do big time corruption.. still we take proud of them.. See news corp. they shut down their 150+ year old .. one of the most successful paper in week when public and politicians put pressure on them .. how many times that happens in our countries.. See 2G scam in India .. and I am sure Pakistan will have their own version ..

We don't learn core value of our religion .. but what we do learn is core values of corruption ...

sick of it .. what IK will do when some traffic police will take money from some driver as bribe.. we need cultural revolution .. but it will not gonna life few months of chaos and done.. we need to teach out children what is correct and what is not .. instead of who is our enemy .. if we train our new generation to become better citizen then might be in remote future we will see our country as first world country ..otherwise ..

yesterday it was Jamindars .. today it is politicians tomorrow it will be some one else who will gonna do all sort of corruption and people will still search for right leader to lead them

agreed, but leaders are supposed to be like fathers of the nation, if they do bad things then a common man will do it too, for example many people dont pay taxes in Pakistan because our leaders dont pay taxes, we are suppose to follow them but they are corrupt.

 

[Nothing]

agreed, but leaders are supposed to be like fathers of the nation, if they do bad things then a common man will do it too, for example many people dont pay taxes in Pakistan because our leaders dont pay taxes, we are suppose to follow them but they are corrupt.

Do we really follow leaders .. or we need reason do to bad things like not paying tax.. we do have more good leaders than bad one if you see our gr8 history...

So you are telling that when Quaid-e-Azam was there no one was doing cheating in entire nation same case with India we.
We had one of the worst communal riots at that time .. from both the sides.. people did all bad things what they can do at their best from killing to rape to theft .. .. so that time people forgot that they have one of the best and self-less leaders ?.. or because that we didn't had internet/TV to tell that...

At any given point of time in recorded history of humankind we always had rotten tomatoes ....
We are mentally sick people ......
Try to understand why the hell we don't demand bill after each and every purchase ... we are double face people .. we do all sort of possible theft in our capacity .. then why we do charity .... make no sense for me ....
Still India and Pakistan have one of the biggest black money trails in all developing nations .. in India it is almost 50% of current GDP ... very passive estimation .. why .. tell me .. it is not because of few bunch of people .. it is because of collective ignorance and nature of society..
As child we say we want to become police office to fight with bad elements .. but when we become police office we never do what we are supposes to do .. why ..because of brutal process of brainwashing in day to day life where we learn only one thing .. money is power .. and earn it by every possible way in your capacity .. less courageously people do tax theft .. bit more courageously will do electricity + tax theft still bit more courageously will join local gang and will do property dealing still more courageously will do deals in drugs .. if you go ahead more courageously and smart will do big theft in custom duties , they will get default after taking millions and billions in loan ..and final level of courageously people will join politics..

If given a chance how many people will say no to import Japanese car and sell them in local market without paying custom duties ..or if meter man will tell I will stop your meter for next six month for 600 rupee and nothing will happen .. how many people will gonna say no to him ..
it is our damm nature .. we don't care for society or nation at macro level ..
if some one will slap one Urdu speaker in Karachi .. there will be riots .. same happens in many area of India too... why there is no riots when politicians send billions of your money in Swiss bank account .. .. who cares of that money they are not getting it any way .. it will go to national treasure ..uuhh.. national treasure.. that not our .. that is national who cares abt it .. WT*.. I see 100s of poster here who do speak big things for their nation ...
if you are really one of so proud citizen of your nation ... try to get bill of your every purchase .. even for candy worth 1 rupee for week ... (I can't .. may be no one will sell me one in India..and I can't do debate with shopkeeper bcos I also don't have same moral ground ).. here in USA people do that .. got the difference ...

 

[Solomon2]

About half of the students in Pakistani colleges cheat. Once they graduate many go on to become (mostly corrupt) junior government officers...Is Pakistan always dishonest people in our bloods ?

I have no idea how dishonest Pakistanis are in Pakistan but I do know that one of the most honest people I ever met was a Pakistani engineering student who elected to return to the U.S. for his masters degree. He just couldn't stand the power of the drug lords at home, he said. The Pakistani diplomats next door also elected to become Bangladeshis in 1971 rather than retain allegiance to a regime that violated its own people to remain in power.

So maybe the issue isn't "dishonest people in our bloods" but rather that many honest Pakistanis are driven out or compelled to remain silent by the threat of violence.

 

[Safriz]

Insecurity causes dishonesty..Pakistanis have doubts about their economy,and as the state has no social security system..its each to their own..Thats about the general public...The feudal lords have always thought of Pakistan as their private possession

 

[Guest01]

i can just say every nation got good and bad people and some people donot represent nation.you can be critical in thinking you can see everyone as corrupt but you cant see abdul sattar edhi who runs edhi foundation all over pakistan with tens of thousands of free ambulances from his pocket and peoples charity.remember the amount of corruption is half the amount of charity which the people of pakistan gives pakistani nation is number 1 on list of nations with amount of charity if you make the system proper you can earn the trust of the nation by showing them the benifiits on thround even in ten days by just taking these steps
1 establishing free telephones hotlines and local offices with cctv and voice recording monitoring system for complaints of people anout any police or govt officer or any other govt agency.this will make more jobs
2 Installing a centralized cctv and voice recording in all the police stations and all the police stations connected with sharing data and all stations monitored by another govenment agency.making more jobs
3 Installing cctv cameras and voice recording in all courts with a seperate public judical inquiry agency who can monitor courts and gives its report and the court proceeding recording to the supreme court to give its verdict.this will make more jobs
4 Putting cctv in all the hotspots of violence with a high magnification software to identify suspects and connecting it to monitoring centers and Police and NADRA.more jobs
5 revenue and independant inevsting agency with same cctv and voice recording all over.more jobs
6 Making a seperate forign policy making super high way between karachi and china border with one branch going to afghan border the other going to iran border and gawadar interconnecting the four nations for trade to take place.making more revenue
7 inviting chinese oil companies to look for oil and gas all over pakistan.
8 make a state owned company for mining and oil exploration reporting its progress monthly to prime minister and kept record of it for parliment for funding for projects. it will create more jobs and much more revenue.
9 make more hospitals with revenue generated from excess oil and other minerals.
10 make an underground national gold reserve with state of the art monitoring systems and under the protection of elite force so this reserve should be filled up locally mined gold.this will make our economy strong as a rock and our dependacy on foreign currencies as we will have enough gold to back our rupee.
11 invite chinas electricity generating companies to look for suitible sites for constructing mega projects like dams irrigation by doing this there will no bickering inbetween the parties and provineces and other actors.this will create a massive upsurge in electricity prodution but till these projects are connected to the national grid pakistan should meet its demand by importing from iran.this will create more jobs 1000s of them

these are some of the things not all of them which can make our country change course within months
This is general thinking of imran khans independant party worker like me

You are suggesting to only increase the size of the government employment. A lot of money will be needed to do any of those suggested things. How will you pay for it?

How about starting with paying taxes?





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[Leader]

et al.

Imran khan will never come into power until he compromises a little. The veteran siyasatdaan wont let him-

compromise on what? okay you keep doing corruption, we wont say anything ?

then what the difference between PTI and the rest of the status quo parties??

to gain some seats is not the objective of PTI, its objective is to change the hearts and minds of people... be in power to enforce law, and give justice to all.

 

[U-571]

i love IK parody....

lolllllllzzzzzzzzzz, the last part of javed miandad is so funny parody lolllzz

 

[*Awan*]

1)The best way to eliminate the corruption is implementation of shariah.(quick and cheap justice)
2)we have to change our education system.and should start giving doses of nationalism to children up to high school.

 

[53fd]

There are plenty of honest people in Pakistan, but they are overshadowed by the easily influenced (by negative propaganda) people.

 

[Janubaba]

No honest people in Pakistan


This is with reference to Rasul Baksh Rais’s article of July 14 titled, “Kaptaan, the country’s most popular leader”.

Imran Khan reminds me of the sons of textile tycoons who go to America for studies and come back empty-handed, either with a basic undergraduate degree and sometimes not even that. They do, however, return with a good English language accent. Their parents help them set up industries to run and most of them fail. And when these companies default, they always blame everything/one else but themselves.

Imran Khan says he will end corruption in 100 days if he comes to power. Most of the corruption in Pakistan, contrary to popular perception, exists at the lower levels. About half of the students in Pakistani colleges cheat. Once they graduate many go on to become (mostly corrupt) junior government officers. Almost all policemen in Pakistan take bribes. So do most Pakistani tax and customs officials. So do the people in the army responsible for procurement. Look at the prices Pakistan paid for F-16s and French military equipment, and look at the prices Taiwan paid for similar planes and equipment.

Many of the Frontier Corps junior officers managing our checkposts allow drug smugglers to pass from Afghanistan to Pakistan, and of course this is done in exchange for money. Our Supreme Court is excellent and perhaps the one good thing we have left. But the lower courts are in a shambles and people have to wait for years for their cases to reach an end. Our city and municipal services officials responsible for things like road building, drainage and water works are generally corrupt, as are those who serve in Wapda and Pakistan Railways. The list can go and on but I hope readers get what I am saying.

Where would Imran Khan get not only qualified people to replace these corrupt people, but also people who are honest? They simply don’t exist.

Imran is loved by our urban youth, mostly young men with limited knowledge, who want power. They think they can run the country with someone like him at its helm but they have no experience of such things. Right now, Imran Khan has no economic team and does not have a sizeable number of honest and seasoned politicians with him, despite being in politics for over a decade.



Is Pakistan always dishonest people in our bloods ?

Rasool Baksh are one of those who are blind from heart they can't appreciate anything good Imran Khan is a honest person I have to some issues with him but still he is far better than all the other politicians

 

[Janubaba]

1)The best way to eliminate the corruption is implementation of shariah.(quick and cheap justice)
2)we have to change our education system.and should start giving doses of nationalism to children up to high school.

We should give doses of Islamism it will work better