Nearly 100 People Still Missing After Condo Building Collapses in Florida, Officials Reveal

[Hamartia Antidote]

You would think that something like that would've been reported by the building management and/or other condo owners and repaired immediately. Not to mention that condo buildings have very strict associations that fees are paid into for maintenance and upkeep etc.

This is why living in an apartment building is a guessing game as to how it is being maintained.

 

[Gomig-21]

This is why living in an apartment building is a guessing game as to how it is being maintained.

And you know this will spark a major round of inspections on many or all records of maintenance and structural integrity of many buildings in that area of north Miami. I'm sure the governor of FLA and mayor of Miami Dade will not want to see a repeat of this at any time in the near or distant future. Buildings that were built in the early 80's like this one will undoubtedly go through major engineering inspections.

I'm also baffled that they knew it was built on wetlands like @dbc said and that they knew it was "subsiding" (love the anti-liability term they're using for basically "sinking" and obviously didn't do anything about it.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

do you have any statistics to back up your claims of building collapse? I hate lies and liars always have. How many buildings have collapsed in the US over the last ten years vs your beloved China?

LOL! They live on weasel words and not facts.

I love how he says not all building collapses are reported.
Are you kidding me?

And you know this will spark a major round of inspections on many or all records of maintenance and structural integrity of many buildings in that area of north Miami. I'm sure the governor of FLA and mayor of Miami Dade will not want to see a repeat of this at any time in the near or distant future. Buildings that were built in the early 80's like this one will undoubtedly go through major engineering inspections.

The Miami Vice era boom development.

I'm also baffled that they knew it was built on wetlands like @HRK said and that they knew it was "subsiding" (love the anti-liability term they're using for basically "sinking" and obviously didn't do anything about it.

Wetlands never stopped developers.

The Burlington Mall is on reclaimed wetlands. That's why it's in a big hole.

 

[Paul2]

It is a fancy of the American to build grandiose constructions (just like China now), but the maintenance works thereafter have not been paid much attention.

Just bulldoze it, and build a new one, bigger, taller, fancier. No need for maintenance if you bulldoze it before it falls apart.

 

[Gomig-21]

LOL! They live on weasel words and not facts.

I love how he says not all building collapses are reported.
Are you kidding me?


The Miami Vice era boom development.

Wetlands never stopped developers.

The Burlington Mall is on reclaimed wetlands. That's why it's in a big hole.

I edited my post, it was dbc who mentioned wetlands not HRK like I had said. Anyway, Miami Vice, boy does that show bring back some great memories of the 80's. Funny I was watching Django Unchained the other day and Don Johnson as Big Daddy loool and he still looks good even with long grey hair. I met Jan Hammer when I was at Berklee. He walked into the packy store across the street one night I was working the nightshift, this was back in 1985 lol. He's the organ/piano virtuoso who wrote that intro to Miami Vice and was well known in the jazz fusion/rock circuit. We would get a lot of famous musicians coming through there giving seminars and speeches etc. Notables I remember were Carlos Santana and the drummer for Phil Collins and the best of the best, Al Di Meola was a frequent contributor. But every time I hear that into, can't help but think of how he walked into the store and he was actually surprised that I knew who he was! lol. He probably still gets royalties for writing such a classic intro to one of the most famous TV shows.

 

[fallstuff]

China's volume of construction are many times bigger than the US. However, very few accidents have been heard. And I believe Western media will not miss a chance to report and bad-mouth China for any single accident, while China's / Vietnam's media generally does not care (or not equipped with necessary facilities / personnel) to report accidents in the US. One reported accident in the US will probably mean there are dozen others which are not and/or under reported.

The same with gun crime in the US. In Vietnam, the media only tells us about 10 gun firing in the US per year, but the number is probably thousands in reality (as per US statistics)

Do not be so sensitive and insecure. Many Americans are now acting more and more like Indian.

Dude there is nothing outside Chinese big cities. You can't compare US suburbs to Chinese ones, if there is any.
You have no idea what you are talking about. One patch of that suburb is South Florida , which is about a good 2000 squared miles

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Funny I was watching Django Unchained the other day and Don Johnson as Big Daddy loool and he still looks good even with long grey hair.

Hey I always thought he was underrated in terms of GQ style. Who do most people think of when they talk about a tv show making a men's fashion statement. Everybody else who tries to dress like he did looks ridiculous.

can't help but think of how he walked into the store and he was actually surprised that I knew who he was! lol. He probably still gets royalties for writing such a classic intro to one of the most famous TV shows.

Yep, he took the disco out of synthesizers.

Of course there were plenty of other artists with memorable songs

 

[AViet]

Dude there is nothing outside Chinese big cities. You can't compare US suburbs to Chinese ones, if there is any.
You have no idea what you are talking about. One patch of that suburb is South Florida , which is about a good 2000 squared miles

I do not understand what is the point of discussion here? The volume of construction between the US and China? If yes, just compare roads to roads, railways to railways, ports to ports, high-rise building to high rise building, airports to airports.

We should not compare the suburb, because there is no suburb in China in the US meaning of it. I've never set foot on the US soil. but I once lived in UK and know what the suburb in UK is. Most are just 2-storey houses.

One example to see the huge volume of construction in China is below: The giant Chinese cities you may never heard of.

 

[fallstuff]

I do not understand what is the point of discussion here? The volume of construction between the US and China? If yes, just compare roads to roads, railways to railways, ports to ports, high-rise building to high rise building, airports to airports.

We should not compare the suburb, because there is no suburb in China in the US meaning of it. I've never set foot on the US soil. but I once lived in UK and know what the suburb in UK is. Most are just 2-storey houses.

One example to see the huge volume of construction in China is below: The giant Chinese cities you may never heard of.

Well big cities are not popular as residential area in Europe or North America. I personally would never live in a big city.

There are bunch of ghost cities in China where the population is barely 20%.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Dude there is nothing outside Chinese big cities. You can't compare US suburbs to Chinese ones, if there is any.
You have no idea what you are talking about. One patch of that suburb is South Florida , which is about a good 2000 squared miles

The problem is most people outside the US think there is only farmland outside the city limits. They simply don't understand our definition of a developed country. They also don't understand the US moved away from dense city living in the 1950's. Just like the Chinese started moving into cities in the late 1990's.

His pictures of high rise living gets the same reaction here as Chinese people in cities would react to pictures of farming village life. it's a progression he doesn't understand because they have not got there yet.

China: farming village->1990's multi-story apartment living in cities.
US: farming village->1880's multi-story apartment living in cities.->1950's suburban/city fringe single family homes.

East Asia is just 70 years behind us in their thinking of what "good living" means.

 

[Goritoes]

I hope Injured are recovered soon, may Allah forgive those who are departed.

 

[Gomig-21]

Yep, he took the disco out of synthesizers.

He sure did, and really revolutionized the synthesizer in many ways. If you get a chance, check out Al Di Meola Tour de Force Live. Amazing Jan Hammer stuff on that album.

Oh and the first season when they introduced the white Testarossa was awesome. lol

 

[AViet]

Well big cities are not popular as residential area in Europe or North America. I personally would never live in a big city.

There are bunch of ghost cities in China where the population is barely 20%.

Can you name just one?

Do not buy too much into Western (especially US propaganda). I've been to China not only once to see by my bare eyes what happening there. You should do it too.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

He sure did, and really revolutionized the synthesizer in many ways. If you get a chance, check out Al Di Meola Tour de Force Live. Amazing Jan Hammer stuff on that album.

Oh and the first season when they introduced the white Testarossa was awesome. lol

Nah, I'll take the Daytona Spyder convertible any day. When I took a 45+ day vacation in Florida I rented a convertible for the entire time. That was money sooooo sooooo well spent. Talk about clearing your head. I highly recommend that as therapy.

 

[KAL-EL]

He sure did, and really revolutionized the synthesizer in many ways. If you get a chance, check out Al Di Meola Tour de Force Live. Amazing Jan Hammer stuff on that album.

Oh and the first season when they introduced the white Testarossa was awesome. lol

I agree, the white Testarossa was flat out awesome.

And who can forget the iconic Crockett theme?