Most Pakistanis hate Afghani namak harams

[PakSword]

Because in Karachi they will always remains "others". Otherwise so called ethnic groups of Pakistan like pathans, baloch, sindhis, muhajirs are all found in Lahore and Islamabad and other cities.

This was Karachi in 1998:

And this was Lahore:

 

[PakSword]

I will not forget about urdu because I do not have anti national tendencies. I probably had a better upbringing than you u scum of Layari. Using swear words is beneath me but using on scum of the earth like you is perfectly justified. U can whine all you like. But it will not change your pompous anti national Karachiwala mindset.

That perfectly showed in your earlier comments.. I mean your upbringing..

So was it your mother, or father told you to use swear words?

 

[tarrar]

They are namak haram for life & they should be deported from Pakistan asap.

 

[PakSword]

I probably had a better upbringing than you u scum of Layari.

Liyari is all Baluchis... They also voted for PTI this time.. So you think I am a Baloch now

 

[PakSword]

He is talking about you @PakSword

Don't explain others. Explain your upbringing. This is what we are discussing.. Isn't it?

Was it like "someone" instructing you to use swear words . "hey you scum.. You can also use swear words on people you suspect are scums" you answering "all right you dumb Fvck"

Was it like that?

They always told me to love all Pakistanis.
They didnt know scum like you existed.

But that didn't show in your earlier comments I mean your uncle also taught you something you told me...

 

[AHMED85]

موڈفکیشن کی ضرورت ہوتی ہے تو ہو جاتی ہے

افغان کے مسلئے پے کوئی بحث نہیں ہو گئی

پی ٹی آئی کا اچھا اقدام یہ ہے کے اب تھانوں مے منشیات، جسم فروشی اور دوسرے سنگین جائم مے کسی پی ٹی آئی کے عہدے دار کی بھی سفارش نہیں سنی جائے گئی

اس سے یہ کام ختم تو نہیں ہو گا البتہ اوپن نہیں ہو گا

ھم کو یہ بھی معلوم ہے کے کچھ عورتیں مالی مثائل کے باعث یہ کام کرتی ہیں
اب ممبر پے بیٹھے علما کرام کو چاہیے کے ان کی شادیاں کروائیں
یا خود اس کارے خیر مے حصہ ڈالیں اور اسلامی ریاست مے اک اینٹ لگائیں کیوں کے کامن لوگ ایسا کرنے کا سوچتے بھی نہیں اور اقدام ذات سے اٹھائے جائیں تو ویلیو رکھتے ہیں

اگر عمل نہ کیا گیا تو تبدیلی کو بھول جائیں کیوں کے


عمل سے بنتی ہے ذندگئی مے جنت بھی جہنم بھی
یہ خاکی اپنی فطرت مے نہ نوری ہے نہ ناری ہے

 

[Kabira]

Look what happened in Sindh assembly today. MQM keh raha tha keh sindhio ko palte hai yeh logh aur uper se sindhi ka alagh se jawab ke muhajiron ko sindhi palte hai. Same lies are repeated by @PakSword on PDF. Lies from census to giving taxes. To voting for PTI. allah se daro

Yeh khalat hai mini Pakistan ke, ek dosre ke ghale khat rahe hai abhi takh.

 

[PakSword]

Look what happened in Sindh assembly today. MQM keh raha tha keh sindhio ko palte hai yeh logh aur uper se sindhi ka alagh se jawab ke muhajiron ko sindhi palte hai. Same lies are repeated by @PakSword on PDF. Lies from census to giving taxes. To voting for PTI. allah se daro

Yeh khalat hai mini Pakistan ke, ek dosre ke ghale khat rahe hai abhi takh.

And some Sindhis also say that Punjab eats all the share of Sindh's water. And your type of Punjabis say that all urdu speaking people are traitors, and Punjab should be separated from pakistan. But my type of Pakistanis say that death to all the people who spread hate and talk about breaking of Pakistan . So who is a patriot?

 

[TMA]

You are not the average poster, so Mr TMA I wonder what your background is, it seems you are well trained for forums?:-

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Paul Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement lists ad hominem as the second lowest type of argument in a disagreement.
Ad hominem (Latin for "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.[2] The terms ad mulierem[3] and ad feminam[4] have been used specifically when the person receiving the criticism is female.

However, its original meaning was an argument "calculated to appeal to the person addressed more than to impartial reason".[5]

Fallacious ad hominem reasoning is categorized as an informal fallacy,[6][7][8] more precisely as a genetic fallacy, a subcategory of fallacies of irrelevance.

Contents

• 1Types
  • 1.1Tu quoque
  • 1.2Circumstantial
  • 1.3Guilt by association
• 2Non-fallacious reasoning
• 3Criticism as a fallacy
• 4See also
• 5References
• 6Further reading
• 7External links

Types

So when you said " thanks for your Indian opinion..." (underline added), this is an example of attacking me and not my argument. When one studies logic and rhetoric one encounters this. In logic it is a fallacy as mentioned above in the wikipedia article and in rhetoric it is considered a ploy to affect the emotions of the audience.

I recommend you start with this
This was the medieval curriculum in Europe along with the Quadrivium. Once you mastered this you could then properly study Philosophy and bear in mind not what we consider Philosophy today, and then one could study the highest pursuit - Theology.
Also something like the trivium was taught in the medieval Muslim world but of course it was Arabic or Persian Grammar rather than Latin or Greek.

Here is a clip about the Trivium.

Now coming back to our discussion: Please ask your Afghan friends the questions I have posed in my previous post.
I have done the same with my Afghan friends and let us just say that we have learned not to speak on this matter any more lest our friendship suffers.

 

[ziaulislam]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1044084831053918208

@django @PakSword @BHarwana @PaklovesTurkiye @RealNapster
I expect the percentage to be higher in places like Peshawar, Quetta and Islamabad where they actually caused a hell lot of issues for locals

problem is strong anti Pakistan sentiment in Afghanistan..this pretty much open that afghans caused lot of open terroist attacks in 1990s ..as pakistan was supporting pushtoon dominated talis...now its western alliance in govt ..

this has caused bias in this issue and i dont expect IK to solve this issue..its not easy..once the 4th/5th gen or may be 7th gen has grown than the issue will die..may be?

 

[Kabira]

problem is strong anti Pakistan sentiment in Afghanistan..this pretty much open that afghans caused lot of open terroist attacks in 1990s ..as pakistan was supporting pushtoon dominated talis...now its western alliance in govt ..

this has caused bias in this issue and i dont expect IK to solve this issue..its not easy..once the 4th/5th gen or may be 7th gen has grown than the issue will die..may be?

This is another myth which have been busted in recent years despite some people repeating all the time. Afghani pashtuns are most rabid anti-Pakistan people out there. Rest of Afghanis in gov or otherwise couldn’t care less if we stopped supporting tali pashtun terrorists. But afghani pashtun hatred is since 1947 and irrespectice of if we support talis or not. And this security risk shouldn’t be given citizenship under any circumtance or in the name of human rights.

Apart from security risk some parties especially Baloch and then Sindh will resist this till the very end.

 

[ziaulislam]

This is another myth which have been busted in recent years despite some people repeating all the time. Afghani pashtuns are most rabid anti-Pakistan people out there. Rest of Afghanis in gov or otherwise couldn’t care less if we stopped supporting tali pashtun terrorists. But afghani pashtun hatred is since 1947 and irrespectice of if we support talis or not. And this security risk shouldn’t be given citizenship under any circumtance or in the name of human rights.

Apart from security risk some parties especially Baloch and then Sindh will resist this till the very end.

As i said they are anti pakistan as they associate themselves with unified paranoia but whats the solution is the real question..citizenship laws will allow those who intermarry to have citizenship so that will solve 1/3rd of the problem
lot of them have marriages now with local communities

 

[Kabira]

As i said they are anti pakistan as they associate themselves with unified paranoia but whats the solution is the real question..citizenship laws will allow those who intermarry to have citizenship so that will solve 1/3rd of the problem
lot of them have marriages now with local communities

First I doubt many Pak pashtuns have married their daughters to afghani ones. Otherway around is much more common and they already get citizenship. But Pakistani women marrying afghani doesn’t mean citizenship for afghani male. Because this law again was made taking in to account national security.

 

[ziaulislam]

First I doubt many Pak pashtuns have married their daughters to afghani ones. Otherway around is much more common and they already get citizenship. But Pakistani women marrying afghani doesn’t mean citizenship for afghani male. Because this law again was made taking in to account national security.

if it doesnt it should....i think it does..i have seen indians get nationality on marrying a pakistani women

 

[Kabira]

And some Sindhis also say that Punjab eats all the share of Sindh's water. And your type of Punjabis say that all urdu speaking people are traitors, and Punjab should be separated from pakistan. But my type of Pakistanis say that death to all the people who spread hate and talk about breaking of Pakistan . So who is a patriot?

I’m was only responding to hatred of others against punjab when I said that, which is common theme in Pakistan. Anyway not interested in giving certificates of patriotism. Every Pakistani is patriotic unless proven otherwise in court.