More Than Two Million Muslims Begin Hajj Pilgrimage

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@Dai Toruko

You have issues man.

He is one of professional anti Arab guys in PDF and full of hate of Arabs I don't know what have Arabs done with him in a dark place but his words are empty

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

He is one of professional anti Arab guys in PDF and full of hate of Arabs I don't know what have Arabs done with him in a dark place but his words are empty

Bro, I am dealing with them singled-handedley. One Arab user. The problem (would hardly call that a problem) is that I don't spend 24/7 of my time on PDF and moderators are doing those Arabized and Arab-obsessed troll a favor when they ban me as there are few to counter their nonsense as I did in this thread and others.

However indeed it is laughable behavior and pathetic. Imagine Arabs opening up numerous troll threads about Iran, Turkey, Congo, Greenland and what not. Talk about a one-way obsession.

@Dai Toruko

You have issues man.

Well, not the only on of those Arabized and Arab-obsessed clowns on PDF.

 

[Timur]

@Dai Toruko

You have issues man.

he just mimics saif al yahudi both posts are alike trash but I bet there is a big difference where saif is thinking he is right and says what he belives dai turko is just trolling and polarizing and playing

interesting is how ppl react about saif.. and show their support

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

he just mimics saif al yahudi both posts are alike trash but I bet there is a big difference where saif is thinking he is right and says what he belives dai turko is just trolling and polarizing and playing

interesting is how ppl react about saif.. and show their support

Yes, because I am creating numerous troll threads and troll threads about non-Arab countries, making absurd claims and trolling.

Give it a rest. I am respected by 99,9% of all users here including the moderators. I never hide the fact that I reply to ugly people in an ugly language that they can only understand when they are the ones first making insults or trolling. That is the only reason why I receive bans once in a while. Nothing else. The moderators know it, I know it and everyone that knows me know it. I play with open cards. I don't pretend not to be an Arab patriot while you pretend not to be an Turkish nationalist when your comments clearly show that you are.

People here think they are strong when they insult Arabs (on PDF where there are hardly any Arab users left) when in reality they would never dare to insult Arabs in person and forgetting that Arabs are the big boys in the region in terms of population, landmass, economy, military power, potential, history, legacy, cultural and linguistic influence etc. Those are facts that I know non-Arab nationalists in the region hate to admit. They prefer to ignore it.

Some Arab countries are in a weak state due to conflicts but that will not continue forever. We Arabs do not hate even Persians (unless they are anti-Arab which most of the mare not only on forums like this, besides they are even closer to our culture arguably than Turks) but if you attack us we will attack you whether online or in person.

 

[Falcon29]

he just mimics saif al yahudi both posts are alike trash but I bet there is a big difference where saif is thinking he is right and says what he belives dai turko is just trolling and polarizing and playing

interesting is how ppl react about saif.. and show their support

Lol, he's not trolling he post things like that all the time and the disturbing videos was not necessary. Isn't true either. I'm sure in person we could all get along just fine. Saif is a good guy I'm sure if you met him.

Just have fun in meantime on PDF.

 

[Timur]

99,9% of all users here including the moderators

thats why you always get banned and have to change your name?

Saif is a good guy I'm sure if you met him.

I do not need to meet him we are incompatible guys some ppl dont like each other from the start sometimes its just like this and does not mean there is much reason or logic to that..

but I understand the reason why you like him..

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

thats why you always get banned and have to change your name?



I do not need to meet him we are incompatible guys some ppl dont like each other from the start sometimes its just like this and does not mean there is much reason or logic to that..

but I understand the reason why you like him..

I don't get banned all-the time. I only get banned for replying to Arabized (most often) and Arab-obsessed trolls using the same language that they use. Hence it result to both parties being banned although I could ignore it. I tend to ignore it nowadays but at times I just reply. Besides If I was afraid of bans, I would not even participate in any "controversial/heated" discussions and report troll comments. Not that fun in the long run.

Not only that you have been banned plenty of times. Compare my positive ratings with my negative. Some 100 positive ratings and 15 negative. 10 of them given by a former Iranian PDF "think thank" for telling some uncomfortable truths about his country. Later he disappeared.

Haha, that is funny, you were kissing my *** and agreeing with my posts for years on my last user. Only because I called you out as a hypocrite, you took it personally and have been mad since that time.

But let us make it clear once again. I don't hide my beliefs and play with open cards. You do not. I openly say that I am an Arab patriot and nationalist (in the sense that I believe in Arab cooperation on every front as almost every Arab have done throughout history and does today), I don't hide that I am religious and practicing Muslim (although not a Salafi), I don't sugarcoat my opinions etc.

You on the other hand claim to be some "saved" Muslim that lives in the land of kufr (Germany) and from a country (Turkey) that is 1 million times worse than KSA in terms of how Islam is implemented, decency in the society etc. yet all you do is attacking Arabs with your ignorance and lies while being a Turkish nationalist yourself. Not many weeks ago you were lamenting that Erdogan gave citizenship to Syrians as you would have preferred some Turkic people getting it, even non-Muslims.

So you see, I don't like two-faced guys. That is why I respect (at least their honesty) the pro-Mullah lot among Iranians who actually live in Iran when I discuss with them because none of us bullshit and make it a secret that we have very different ideologies, viewpoints and ambitions for the region. Not the ones sitting in Canada and blabbering about how great the Mullah's are while they left with their tails behind their backs.

 

[Falcon29]

thats why you always get banned and have to change your name?



I do not need to meet him we are incompatible guys some ppl dont like each other from the start sometimes its just like this and does not mean there is much reason or logic to that..

but I understand the reason why you like him..

Honestly think lots of people here are weird and scared to meet in person. Not saying you but I know lots of these Iranian guys would be scared. Even though it is just friendly.

And go ahead, tell me the reason, if you trying to say I'm Arab nationalist it will be epic fail as I don't see world that way and nothing in my posts suggest that. You on other hand are actually Turkish nationalist but it's not like I care nor does it bother me. As long as you are reasonable about other matters you like your ethnicity/nationality all you want. As for me, I share language and background with Arabs but I do not care about my ethnicity that much or care about 'Arabness' or anything like that. I'm more of religious person and hardly see differences between all human beings besides slightly different norms.

 

[Timur]

you would have preferred some Turkic

did that hurt you?

yes because I would give them citizenship and import them to turkey! that is what we should have done.. because who else will do that? MBS? would he speak for others who are not arabs? did he? no he did excactly the opposite and that reality is what differs from me and you! you are a fascist I am not..

where are the millions of syrians in Saudi arabia one of the richest and biggest and how you like to show us the greatest arabic countries? if you are such into your arabism nationalism fascism trip than for me it is absolutly logic and better that you take care of your great arab brothers and we take our turkic brothers.. but as like others say actions speak! our turkish nation is not alike you they take them and give shelter no matter who they are (Kurds, Arabs, Christians, Muslims..) but ppl like you show me the danger of such many ppl in my country..

not a Salafi

better not call them so but you may reconsider this they could help you to clean your belives

lives in the land of kufr (Germany)

and what makes you think this is a bad thing? arn't you afraid that allah could destroy us and brings out a new nation from this land of kufr whom you see such as low ppl?

you should not think you are better but be concerned

And go ahead, tell me the reason

as you said yourself they are arab you share a dialect language so you feel more closely to them.. despite that there is nationalism in you you may be not aware of it but its not less than I have..

 

[Indos]

Lol, he's not trolling he post things like that all the time and the disturbing videos was not necessary. Isn't true either. I'm sure in person we could all get along just fine. Saif is a good guy I'm sure if you met him.

Just have fun in meantime on PDF.

Yeah, I think we are Muslim should get along together. Too much nationalism is not good.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

did that hurt you?

yes because I would give them citizenship and import them to turkey! that is what we should have done.. because who else will do that? MBS? would he speak for others who are not arabs? did he? no he did excactly the opposite and that reality is what differs from me and you! you are a fascist I am not..

where are the millions of syrians in Saudi arabia one of the richest and biggest and how you like to show us the greatest arabic countries? if you are such into your arabism nationalism fascism trip than for me it is absolutly logic and better that you take care of your great arab brothers and we take our turkic brothers.. but as like others say actions speak! our turkish nation is not alike you they take them and give shelter no matter who they are (Kurds, Arabs, Christians, Muslims..) but ppl like you show me the danger of such many ppl in my country..



better not call them so but you may reconsider this they could help you to clean your belives




and what makes you think this is a bad thing? arn't you afraid that allah could destroy us and brings out a new nation from this land of kufr whom you see such as low ppl?

you should not think you are better but be concerned



as you said yourself they are arab you share a dialect language so you feel more closely to them.. despite that there is nationalism in you you may be not aware of it but its not less than I have..

Why in the good world should I be hurt about what some Turkish expat living in Germany is saying about what Erdogan is doing in Turkey? Arabs are NATIVE to Anatolia. The third largest ethnic group in the country as well. They are not going anywhere whether you like it or not. It was just a comment that proved my point and what I already told you before.

I have said this many times already. I have nothing against Turkey or Turks. Let alone Turkish Arabs. I know that Arabs and Turks share a lot in common. Even geography. Can you say the same thing about Arabs or do you only have hatred in your heart and obsession? Judging from you comments that is the answer. What

You see, this is your ignorance speaking once again. KSA hosts the largest amount of Rohingya, Uyghur's, Uzbeks (the ones that escaped from communist oppression, mostly scholarly families and well-to-do families) in the entire world. On top of the largest Yemeni diaspora. 1.5 million Syrians. Almost 1 million Palestinians Largest Pakistani diaspora. Yet you talk about not hosting non-Arabs or fellow Arabs? You see how difficult it is to take your nonsense seriously?

Fascists only in your brainless head, I think. Fascism is non-existing in KSA historically. Much more of it in Turkey (Kemalism) but you are fully aware of that. NO need to talk about forced Turkificaiton in the Republic of Turkey either. Whether Arabs, Circassians, Bosnians and others. In the Arab world this process happened not by force but due to assimilation and willing adaptation of Arab culture. The difference between our societies. This is why you have problems with Kurds to this day while we don't have problems with Afro-Arabs, Indonesian-Arabs etc.

What are you blabbering about? The state fiqh of KSA is Hanbalism which most outsiders call "Salafism". You think that I am against that, lol? To me it is just Islam like any other sect in KSA. I respect every good Islamic sect although I agree with others more than others. By "saying" that I am not a "Salafi" was that I am a tolerant person even against non-Muslims as long as they behave well. Far from your fascism nonsense. Same with foreigners living in KSA and the Arab world. You cannot find 1 single post of mind, where I talk baldy about minorities in the Arab world while I have seen you call Kurds for rats etc. all the while there are some open Turkish Kurdish users here on PDF.

It is hypocrisy and I struggle to see anything better in Europe after having lived there for many years and in fact I still do.

 

[Timur]

Salafism

better not call them so

man you yourself used that name and I told you not better to use it! whats wrong with your brain?

still you are an ignorant who has no memory except for what he wants to hear.. you showed many many times what horrible kind of fascist you are.. and you cant bring me to belive your fake "I do not have anything against turks"

thats hopefully enough for today so have a beautiful evening..

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

man you yourself used that name and I told you not better to use it! whats wrong with your brain?

still you are an ignorant who has no memory except for what he wants to hear.. you showed many many times what horrible kind of fascist you are.. and you cant bring me to belive your fake "I do not have anything against turks"

thats hopefully enough for today so have a beautiful evening..

You failed to reply to any of my factual statements when your bullshit was called out and KSA was shown as a country that hosts far more non-Arab and Arab Muslims. Picked your lies and propaganda apart in other words.

You also don't get why I wrote "Salafi" despite using " and already explaining to you why I used this. This forum is not only used by us two, do you understand this simple fact? Let me ask you again, which country uses Hanbalism as the state fiqh? KSA or Turkey. So once again, use your brain.

As for fascism, I already told you that this is the foundation of your Turkish Republic (Kemalism) and already told you how native non-Turks to Anatolia were attempted to be "Turkified" using force unlike in the Arab world.

You can jump up and down and deny the obvious, not going to change the reality.

If I am a fascists in your brain, you are an ultra-fascist.

I can say the same thing about you. 100's of hateful comments against 550 million Arabs, lies left and right, etc. On the other hand what I wrote abut Turkey are objective facts. You have not challenged me on them even once for obvious reasons.

BTW that does not change the fact that there are 100's of misguided "Salafis" (often converts) in the West btw but that is another discussion. In fact among Muslims as a whole regardless of sect.

 

[Timur]

Picked your lies and propaganda apart in other words.

we host 4-5 million syrians my stance stands written above if you you are such a great country why dont you take them? they are arabs? dont try to twist things to other fields you know that this is my point.. and why I said that is crystal clear not because I am a nationalist or facists how some ppl think or because they are arabs and I want them out of my country thats not the case.. but because you guys talk big like others in my country too.. talking big but lacking actions.. and not doing the right thing on other fields

In fact among Muslims as a whole regardless of sect.

there is no sect the reality is about having the delil or bringing thing out of nowhere

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

we host 4-5 million syrians my stance stands written above if you you are such a great country why dont you take them? they are arabs? dont try to twist things to other fields you know that this is my point.. and why I said that is crystal clear not because I am a nationalist or facists how some ppl think or because they are arabs and I want them out of my country thats not the case.. but because you guys talk big like others in my country too.. talking big but lacking actions.. and not doing the right thing on other fields



there is no sect the reality is about having the delil or bringing thing out of nowhere

You don't host 5 million Syrians. Show me such numbers. Many of them are Kurds and Turkmen as well. You neighbor Syria. You meddled in Syria and are responsible for the mess (partially). It is only natural that you take many Syrian refugees (who all would want to go to Europe and they need to cross Turkey first, so it is about location not anything else as Turkey is not such a rich country), similar to how it is natural that KSA is now hosting an even larger Yemeni diaspora after the civil war in Yemen and our intervention.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_people

Saudi Arabia 190,000 (January 2017)[6]


2.5m Syrians hosted by KSA since uprising

http://www.arabnews.com/saudi-arabia/news/805236

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugees

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs

Saudi Arabia ~50,000 (2013) (Saudi Labor Ministry)[11]

Speaking about REAL Turks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbeks

Saudi Arabia 300,000 (2010)

Here you have a long study from UNICEF 10 years ago.

https://esa.un.org/miggmgprofiles/indicators/files/SaudiArabia.pdf

GENEVA (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia has expelled 17,000 Yemeni migrants so far this year, amidst fears that it could deport up to 700,000 back to war and misery in their homeland, deepening the crisis, the U.N. migration agency says.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ort-yemeni-migrants-to-war-zone-idUSKBN1IA1F7

etc.

we host 4-5 million syrians my stance stands written above if you you are such a great country why dont you take them? they are arabs? dont try to twist things to other fields you know that this is my point.. and why I said that is crystal clear not because I am a nationalist or facists how some ppl think or because they are arabs and I want them out of my country thats not the case.. but because you guys talk big like others in my country too.. talking big but lacking actions.. and not doing the right thing on other fields



there is no sect the reality is about having the delil or bringing thing out of nowhere

There is. What would you call the Wilayat al-Faqih version of "Islam" in Iran? Where an "Supreme Leader" is infallible and the representative of God on earth? If this is not a cult/sect, what is it? Islam? Or what about a certain sects filth aimed at the most respected Muslim personalities in history and their distortion of history? What would you call those people? Or people who seek help from tombs and graves? Who practice widespread Mut'ah out of lust etc.? So of course there are sects in Islam. Denying that is denying the reality but you seem to do it frequently on other fronts also so I am not surprised.

@Falcon29