More than 50 afghan soldiers killed:IG FC

[OguzSenturk]

The turks(central asian tribes) who ruled Afghans were themselves slaves of Muslim

Islam didn't even exist before MS 600s, yet you are talking about being slave of "Muslims"
http://www.ancient.eu/White_Huns_(Hephthalites)/

Ghaznavids and Timurids were Muslims themselves, and not a slave of "Muslims"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghaznavids
https://uz.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Temur

Again, i am not trying to justify any kind of Turkic claim on the area just because we ruled that place for few Centuries, beside that claiming land just because someone ruled that place in past is just so stupid.

But if it makes sense for you, let me Claim half of the India, since Mughal Turks which were the sons of Timur ruled half of the india for a long time

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

tell me why arent they demanding the land that the russians ceded
the fact is that the durrad line being fake is not an ethnicity problem it is more of a political and economical one ....

The ethnic group on the Russian side have their own countries- Uzbeg and Tajiks both have their own countries- the questions are mainly raised by Pashtoons- They don't have a Pashtoon country-

 

[waz]

The Indian army even shamelessly released a video of body exchange ceremony from kargil.

Yes, that's the one Indian media trolls doctored and turned it into a Pakistani surrender in Kargil.

 

[Syed Asif Bukhari]

I wonder why Indiots are speaking and advocating on the behalf of afghans .looks like indiots arses are on fire . a sane person will believe a word from Professional army rather than rag tag warlods charsi army . Remember Angoor Ada ,we kept it for very long time .

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

Islam didn't even exist before MS 600s, yet you are talking about being slave of "Muslims"
http://www.ancient.eu/White_Huns_(Hephthalites)/

Ghaznavids and Timurids were Muslims themselves, and not a slave of "Muslims"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghaznavids
https://uz.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Temur

Again, i am not trying to justify any kind of Turkic claim on the area just because we ruled that place for few Centuries, beside that claiming land just because someone ruled that place in past is just so stupid.

By Muslim I meant the groups who 1st brought Islam-

Turks of Central Asia and Turks of present day Turkey are separate- When Turks of central asia were rising present day turkey was still Byzentine I think-

White Huns were European tribe which were soundly defeated by Indian rulers of that time- they too had no relation to central Asian tribes or Mongols- On the contrary It is interesting to find more mongol influence on the central asians than white huns-

 

[OguzSenturk]

Turks of Central Asia and Turks of present day Turkey are separate- When Turks of central asia were rising present day turkey was still Byzentine I think

First of all, we are all homo saphiens. We are talking about the Nations, which means being a part of the State, and State's ancestor States in past. Secondly, according to your claim there are still Turks in Central Asia who is able to claim as you try to legalise Afghan's claim on Pakistan, which includes half of the today's India.

Third, you just wrote your own opinion, and opinions are not facts.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

Yes, that's the one Indian media trolls doctored and turned it into a Pakistani surrender in Kargil.

I don't want to go into details but the conditions of your troops were horrific- No man deserve such treatment- It reminded me of Indian soldiers who were left on Namka chu with only rice and salt for month-

Indian media did a great service to humanity by showing them- at least their mothers came know that their son died fighting for their country-

First of all, we are all homo saphiens. We are talking about the Nations, which means being a part of the State, and State's ancestor States in past. Secondly, according to your claim there are still Turks in Central Asia who is able to claim as you try to legalise Afghan's claim on Pakistan, which includes half of the today's India.

Third, you just wrote your own opinion, and opinions are not facts.

Turks of central asia have their own countries- and they are very happy with that-

 

[karakoram]

Nan bukhu tar buzan. Bachay sak murdaga afghani kuni. Pa mor de kaal kuchay wachom. i hope afghani scums will enjoy my good wishes in Dari and Pashtu.

 

[OguzSenturk]

Turks of central asia have their own countries- and they are very happy with that-

I didn't said that they are claiming Mughal and Timurid lands, or they should claim those. I said "they are able to claim those lands" if you think people are able to claim lands just because their ancestors ruled somewhere for few centuries - which is what i am opposing.

I didnt clam that Turks don't have their countries as well.

I don't understand what are you trying to say. You just said that Afghans are older than Pakistan and they claim their lands, then i prove that Turks are older than Afghans "so should we claim Afghanistan", then you said that Turks in Central Asia have their own states and they are living happily

Use some logic, i am giving you as Turk example to show you that your logic about "being older" does not give you any more legitimacy to rule a land where you dont rule.

 

[litman]

2 of our soldiers died while our ispr claimed only civillian died, are we really hiding our casualties? If yes then we have bwen fukedup by both sides govt & army

you have realized this reality very late .

 

[saiyan0321]

https://www.geo.tv/latest/140860-Fl...an-Pakistan-military-under-way-at-Bab-e-Dosti

Looks like the matter will be resolved through geological and Google maps. Well in the second maps we did state that the villages belong to us and Google maps support our claim but they weren't listening... The border of Chaman will be demarcated and with the return of villagers back the census can carry on.

 

[bananarepublic]

The ethnic group on the Russian side have their own countries- Uzbeg and Tajiks both have their own countries- the questions are mainly raised by Pashtoons- They don't have a Pashtoon country-

they have a country which is called afghanistan what more do they want btw tajik is not a race but a mix of races with farsis being the largest but there is also a significant number of them living in afghanistan does that mean they have the right to demand that land to ???

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

I didn't said that they are claiming Mughal and Timurid lands, or they should claim those. I said "they are able to claim those lands" if you think people are able to claim lands just because their ancestors ruled somewhere for few centuries - which is what i am opposing.

I didnt clam that Turks don't have their countries as well.

I don't understand what are you trying to say. You just said that Afghans are older than Pakistan and they claim their lands, then i prove that Turks are older than Afghans "so should we claim Afghanistan", then you said that Turks in Central Asia have their own states and they are living happily

Use some logic, i am giving you as Turk example to show you that your logic about "being older" does not give you any more legitimacy to rule a land where you dont rule.

See you don't understand the problem here- The area which Afghans want has Pashtoons- Majority of Afghans are Pashtoons- Pashtoons want a country for themselves-

Most volatile areas of Pakistan where they have conducted 1300 air strikes in a single operation is Pashtoon areas- How many air strikes have Turkey done on Kurds as a comparison- I hope you get some idea-

 

[SabzShaheen]

Chaman border attack: 50 Afghan soldiers killed, 100 injured in retaliatory fire, says IG FC

Inspector General Frontier Corps (FC) Major General Nadeem Ahmed has said Afghan forces targeted civilian population while Pakistan targeted their check-posts, inflicting heavy casualties.

At least 10 people including an FC personnel and women, children were killed and 47 others injured when Afghan forces targeted troops guarding a census team in Chaman on Friday.

“Afghan forces entered Pakistan and occupied houses to take position and launch an attack,” the IG FC told a news conference Sunday afternoon.

“Pakistani forces, on the other hand, targeted Afghan security check-posts, killing 50 people and injuring 100,” Ahmed added. “The forces targeted civilians and used children as human shields.”

“Nevertheless, we did not feel jubilant at the losses inflicted on the other side as Afghans are our brothers.”

Pakistan will respond instantly, effectively to border violations: Khawaja Asif

Subsequently, the Afghan side contacted Pakistan requesting ceasefire, which was accorded and welcomed, he said. “A flag meeting on the local level was also held.”

“The entire responsibility of the incident, Ahmed added, lies with the Afghan forces,” the IG said and added that any such aggression in future will result in a twofold and similar reaction. Ahmed went on to add that the incident was a result of Afghan-India collusion.

Ahmed said Pakistan was targeted despite that the Afghan side was well informed of the ongoing census activity.

“We want to make it clear that Pakistan’s international border is non-negotiable and no compromise will be made on it.”

The attack caused the border to be closed again indefinitely while a curfew was imposed in Torkham bazaar as a preemptive measure.

On Saturday, Defence Minister Khawaja Asif reiterated the stance for promoting mutual cooperation with Afghanistan to eliminate terrorism, but made it clear Pakistan would respond instantly and effectively in a befitting way to border violations.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1403699/50-afghan-soldiers-killed-100-injured-retaliatory-fire-ig-fc/
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Yeh namak harami bhot barri fitnah hain.

 

[litman]

at least IGFC is sensible then many PDF members here who are rejoicing the death of afghan soldiers. this is exactly what the big powers want us to do. kill each other. afghan govt is doing it now and we did it after 9/11. current afghan govt is nothing but indian puppet and the pak govt was US puppet after 9/ 11. well they still are to an extent. only idiots or traitors on both sides of the borders will enjoy this business but any sane person who has some know how about islam will weep at this rise of nationalism and sectarianism in islam.
NEITHER PAK NOR AFGHANISTAN WON IN THIS SKIRMISH . OUR ENEMIES ARE REAL VICTORS.