More Than 1000 Turks Fighting For ISIS (Bad News)

[SrNair]

the bastard TTP has used Turkey to originally join FSA and Al Nusra camps run in Turkey and now they are joining ISIS

this my dear is very disturbing. I know once again Saudis will escape from this new experiment but the consequences will bite the turks hard

So Saudi were funded these monsters.
Anyway all it takes is the Peshmerga and Kurds.Once they are fallen next ticket would be that of Turks.ISIS ranks swelled around 200000.
There was a dialogue in Hollywood 'Green Zone' where a character of Iraq General to US Chief Warrant officer.
'You think that war is just over.It is just begun'.
May be it was a just a film.But now it go a meaning since former Army officers of Saddam Army is spearheading the IS militia.

 

[usernameless]

ISIS is born out of Al Nusra and FSA... both introduced the methods on civilians that ISIS has only perfected and taken to the next level.

i don't fully agree with that. isis was already active for years in Iraq, just under a different name. FSA didnt exist back then. The only thing that backfired was a portion of FSA defecting to isis. FSA is still around, but they are performing worse than expected imo. imo Turkey should plug out support for FSA in order to avoid such defections to isis. For now isis is not Turkey's responsibility, nor does Turkey support isis, but if it makes us look like an irresponsible bad guy for protecting our own interests, then so be it. Last thing i want to see is Turkish soldiers shoulder to shoulder with pkk scum. let's wait till the end of this chapter before already accepting doom scenarios as facts, if it turns out like you said then i will gladly tell you that i was wrong all the time.

 

[-SINAN-]

the bastard TTP has used Turkey to originally join FSA and Al Nusra camps run in Turkey and now they are joining ISIS

Where are these camps in Turkey ?? Can you give us the name of the camp or at least it's location ??

 

[Irfan Baloch]

i don't fully agree with that. isis was already active for years in Iraq, just under a different name. FSA didnt exist back then. The only thing that backfired was a portion of FSA defecting to isis. FSA is still around, but they are performing worse than expected imo. imo Turkey should plug out support for FSA in order to avoid such defections to isis. For now isis is not Turkey's responsibility, nor does Turkey support isis, but if it makes us look like an irresponsible bad guy for protecting our own interests, then so be it. Last thing i want to see is Turkish soldiers shoulder to shoulder with pkk scum. let's wait till the end of this chapter before already accepting doom scenarios as facts, if it turns out like you said then i will gladly tell you that i was wrong all the time.

perfect answer i was awaiting to see from other Turks
let me respond with some bullet points

• I already clarified that naming of the organisations is not important, the members moonlight for each other and cross over seamlessly if the two organisations are allied. only difference is when they start cannibalising each other.
• you can tell that I am ignorant about Kurdish issue. I know Turkish Kurds make up the PKK but I thought Iraqi Kurds were not SOBs and provided beach head to NATO in all gulf wars and mainly stayed out of the Iraqi sectarian war and its current mutated form.
• I wont want your guys to fight shoulder to shoulder with PKK. its like expecting Pak soldiers to fight together with TTP against India. we dread to even think about it. this is why Pak Military strongly rejected the Pakistani Taliban offer back in 2008 when our tension was high against India when it massed its troops along the eastern borders of Pakistan.
• I agree that Turkey should pull the plug on FSA. and kick them out of turkey. let other Arab regimes handle them. they have the habit of biting the hand that feeds them so its better that they are not in Turkey.
• I dont expect anything better from Arab regimes, even today terrorists in Pakistan continue to receive funding and support from Arab countries. what depresses me is to think how TTP that desecrates corpses of civilians and soldiers was able to reach FSA base camps? which countries supported and paid for their journey to bring their terror on the people of Iraq and Syria?

 

[usernameless]

Where are these camps in Turkey ?? Can you give us the name of the camp or at least it's location ??

bro, even some Pakistani bros have been spoon fed with western (or worse; Iranian pisstv) bs media crap about Turkey 'supporting isis' and 'becoming a second Pakistan'. that is the influence of the western media again, a dangerous thing indeed.

perfect answer i was awaiting to see from other Turks
let me respond with some bullet points

• I already clarified that naming of the organisations is not important, the members moonlight for each other and cross over seamlessly if the two organisations are allied. only difference is when they start cannibalising each other.
• you can tell that I am ignorant about Kurdish issue. I know Turkish Kurds make up the PKK but I thought Iraqi Kurds were not SOBs and provided beach head to NATO in all gulf wars and mainly stayed out of the Iraqi sectarian war and its current mutated form.
• I wont want your guys to fight shoulder to shoulder with PKK. its like expecting Pak soldiers to fight together with TTP against India. we dread to even think about it. this is why Pak Military strongly rejected the Pakistani Taliban offer back in 2008 when our tension was high against India when it massed its troops along the eastern borders of Pakistan.
• I agree that Turkey should pull the plug on FSA. and kick them out of turkey. let other Arab regimes handle them. they have the habit of biting the hand that feeds them so its better that they are not in Turkey.
• I dont expect anything better from Arab regimes, even today terrorists in Pakistan continue to receive funding and support from Arab countries. what depresses me is to think how TTP that desecrates corpses of civilians and soldiers was able to reach FSA base camps? which countries supported and paid for their journey to bring their terror on the people of Iraq and Syria?

• At first i was all for FSA, and actually still am but i dont think they have much of a chance anymore, in order to topple Assad (reason would be off-topic), but since isis' rise and such defections, i personally worry for such defections to isis, so it's not worth to support FSA anymore imo.
• KRG (Iraqi Kurds under Barzani) are rivals with pkk/pyd (Kurdish factions had a civil war some decades ago). Barzani is more pro-Turkey, though he is actually forced into that role by Turkey due massive economical investments in the Kurdish regions of Iraq, so Iraqi Kurds are kind of forced to play along with Turkey's interests, especially because we both have pkk/pyd as a common threat. Actually the sincerity of Iraqi Kurds will be tested and become crystal clear if Turkey was weak.
  
• agreed
• agreed
• The problem with FSA seems to have been that there was no clear background check. anyone willing to fight Assad was welcomed, hence all those extremists within FSA while FSA itself claims to be moderate.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

bro, even some Pakistani bros have been spoon fed with western (or worse; Iranian pisstv) bs media crap about Turkey 'supporting isis' and 'becoming a second Pakistan'. that is the influence of the western media again, a dangerous thing indeed.

Where are these camps in Turkey ?? Can you give us the name of the camp or at least it's location ??

seen it from the Horses mouth. the video uploads by the TTP, who are in Syria.want me to link the videos of the foreign terrorists in those FSA camps?

my issue is not with Saudis and Qataris, TTP is their proxy against the Iranians they cant kill their habit. my question is why and how TTP managed to travel all the way to Syria via Turkey?

my country is a battleground because of these scum-bags and our airports suck at even safeguarding their own aeroplanes so yes they managed to fly away from our airports but how this can go unnoticed when they are travelling in hundreds and thousands.

the videos are very graphic otherwise I would have linked them. but if both of you declare that your FSA training camps in Turkey dont contain TTP then I will believe you. maybe TTP only resides in the FSA camps inside Syria but are they not interacting with Turkish based FSA?

 

[-SINAN-]

seen it from the Horses mouth. the video uploads by the TTP, who are in Syria.want me to link the videos of the foreign terrorists in those FSA camps?

my issue is not with Saudis and Qataris, TTP is their proxy against the Iranians they cant kill their habit. my question is why and how TTP managed to travel all the way to Syria via Turkey?

my country is a battleground because of these scum-bags and our airports suck at even safeguarding their own aeroplanes so yes they managed to fly away from our airports but how this can go unnoticed when they are travelling in hundreds and thousands.

the videos are very graphic otherwise I would have linked them. but if both of you declare that your FSA training camps in Turkey dont contain TTP then I will believe you. maybe TTP only resides in the FSA camps inside Syria but are they not interacting with Turkish based FSA?

There are no FSA or Nusra or ISIS camps in Turkey. If you say otherwise please, present your proof.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

There are no FSA or Nusra or ISIS camps in Turkey. If you say otherwise please, present your proof.

you might be right. they are no longer there

Syria rebel army shifts from Turkey - Telegraph
The spread of training facilities comes as part of a wider concerted effort to unite disparate groups of rebel fighters who tend to work independently of each other. For the past three months, General Mustafa al-Sheikh, the head of the FSA’s ruling military council, has been leaving the Syrian military defector’s camp in Turkey and travelling through Idlib and Aleppo provinces to meet his men. On Thursday, followed by a cavalcade of his private security team and open-air trucks full of local fighters who shouted “praise the FSA”, Gen al-Sheikh travelled to a village in Idlib province to deliver his message.


By October 2011, the FSA would start to receive military support from Turkey, who allowed the rebel army to operate its command and headquarters from the country's southern Hatay province close to the Syrian border, and its field command from inside Syria.[49]

this is why I say dont copy us, dont play our game . your sons and daughters will pay a heavy price. I avoided unknown and controversial sites on purpose otherwise people will ignore the subject and direct their energies over discrediting the sources

 

[-SINAN-]

you might be right. they are no longer there

Syria rebel army shifts from Turkey - Telegraph
The spread of training facilities comes as part of a wider concerted effort to unite disparate groups of rebel fighters who tend to work independently of each other. For the past three months, General Mustafa al-Sheikh, the head of the FSA’s ruling military council, has been leaving the Syrian military defector’s camp in Turkey and travelling through Idlib and Aleppo provinces to meet his men. On Thursday, followed by a cavalcade of his private security team and open-air trucks full of local fighters who shouted “praise the FSA”, Gen al-Sheikh travelled to a village in Idlib province to deliver his message.


By October 2011, the FSA would start to receive military support from Turkey, who allowed the rebel army to operate its command and headquarters from the country's southern Hatay province close to the Syrian border, and its field command from inside Syria.[49]

this is why I say dont copy us, dont play our game . your sons and daughters will pay a heavy price. I avoided unknown and controversial sites on purpose otherwise people will ignore the subject and direct their energies over discrediting the sources

It has been years that people say there are camps present in Turkey.... but we have yet to see a single proof.... I mean in that video you posted, she says there is a camp in Adana....

I mean, where is the footage...forget footage give us the exact location so we can check from google earth... but no... all i have seen so far is "There are camps in Turkey"....nothing more.

CHP (Oppositon party) says the same.. when government says "You are able to check every institute and camp in Turkey. Back your claims with proof". Opposition stays silent in response...

 

[telkon]

seen it from the Horses mouth. the video uploads by the TTP, who are in Syria.want me to link the videos of the foreign terrorists in those FSA camps?

my issue is not with Saudis and Qataris, TTP is their proxy against the Iranians they cant kill their habit. my question is why and how TTP managed to travel all the way to Syria via Turkey?

my country is a battleground because of these scum-bags and our airports suck at even safeguarding their own aeroplanes so yes they managed to fly away from our airports but how this can go unnoticed when they are travelling in hundreds and thousands.

the videos are very graphic otherwise I would have linked them. but if both of you declare that your FSA training camps in Turkey dont contain TTP then I will believe you. maybe TTP only resides in the FSA camps inside Syria but are they not interacting with Turkish based FSA?

the answer to your question is simple. back then,anybody who wanted to fight assad had no problem crossing into syria via turkey. turkish authorities turned blind eye to these militants, just as assad looked the other way when pkk pigs were using his country to stage attacks on turkey. but today, it's much and much more difficult to travel to syria via turkey. besides, FSA is a movement of a loosely bound brigades, of which some cooperate/d with al-nusra and even isis. all those fronts, brigades, movements etc. in syria are truly machiavelian in nature.

and as others pointed out, i've never seen any evidence showing those "camps" are real and not the product of some western or kurdish wet dream. it's well known fact that westerners are itching to be kurds' bitches on these matters and kurds manipulate western public opinion masterfully. last example of this was ain al-arab.
lastly, here's some reading:

Inside Turkey's shadow war with ISIS - The Week