More Israeli fear-mongering....

[ResurgentIran]

If that program was peaceful, Rouhanni would allow unconditional inspections. He does not, and we both know you don't hide nuke bomb production facilities in your 'legit nuclear power facilities', but rather in some place that's not to be inspected.
Don't think we of nato are fools, or that Obama is a fool. That word 'unconditional' next to 'inspections' is the ONLY thing that'll prevent the eventual strikes against your nuke bombs and parts production facilities therefore. You can try to keep 'm hidden, but they will be found. And before you scream "IRAQ WMD BUSH LIES", people like me are going to see to it that we'll find the required evidence before the strikes start, in your case.



Well you're entitled to your opinion of course, but then I'll share that I think exactly the same about any muslim who wants to impose their religious/social rules on other (sub-)cultures or secretly desires domination of lands outside their borders.

And just because I'm not gullible, does not mean I'm a zombie, OR indoctrinated. I excercise the right to make up my own mind every day.

All nuclear facilities are under IAEA safeguards. Name me the nuclear facility that does not allow inspections.

And stop bringing up NATO all the time. Because Iran will not ever reluinqish its rights under international law, no matter how much NATO threatens.
That era is gone.

 

[Battle of Kursk]

Leave your stupid analogies out of this, you're writing things that are meaningless and waste our time.

As for your 'evidence', you quoted a supposed times article without linking it. Provide us with the link. And even with the link, there's no actual evidence supporting his claims that a few employees may have a critical opinion against Israel's occupation. Doesn't equate to bias. That's just human instinct.

And it hardly means anything, what are you trying to take on every human rights organization in the world? You do realize Israeli organizations also take part in these investigations and don't live in this fantasy world where you think the world is against Israel and Israel can do no wrong.

As you requested: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/incoming/article256414.ece
it's pay per view, but if you search for the headline you can read it in blogs.
Obviously no amount of evidence will convince a brainwashed mind who finds no fault in an unqualified Nazi sympathizer investigating Israeli alleged war crimes.
I am not talking about every human rights organization in the world. I am talking about the organization who's report you quoted. Where have I referred to other HR organizations? reading deficiency?
Israel did not take part in this investigation, material forwarded by the IDF was disregarded because it didn't suit the agenda.

 

[PeaceGen]

All nuclear facilities are under IAEA safeguards. Name me the nuclear facility that does not allow inspections.

All nuclear facilities that your gov tells the world about you mean. The fact that you dont allow unconditional inspections means you have facilities where you do build nuke bomb (part production facitlities). I've already read reports about how you have invested in nuclear centrifuge tech capable of making weaponsgrade nuclear material quickly, at least twice (stuxnet). Hell we even know where you're keeping that bomb tech.

And stop bringing up NATO all the time. Because Iran will not ever reluinqish its rights under international law, no matter how much NATO threatens.
That era is gone.

(1) We (nato/israel) never challenged your right to a nuke ENERGY program.

(2) Allow unconditional inspections, and you solve your problems. No other way.

 

[Battle of Kursk]

No, the whole world knows Israel started the 67 war and your leaders say so to. Even though you're probably a Russian.

How old are you? 5? It is the modern era, the documentation is massive. What I have quoted it undisputed by any sane person with actual historical knowledge, not so by childish daydreamers, i see.

 

[ResurgentIran]

All nuclear facilities that your gov tells the world about you mean. The fact that you dont allow unconditional inspections means you have facilities where you do build nuke bomb (part production facitlities). I've already read reports about how you have invested in nuclear centrifuge tech capable of making weaponsgrade nuclear material quickly, at least twice (stuxnet). Hell we even know where you're keeping that bomb tech.



Allow unconditional inspections, and you solve your problems. No other way.

Do you have any evidence of any undeclared facility, producing nukes?
You are making the claim, thus the onus is on you to satisfy your burden of proof.

Like I said, we allow unconditional inspections. You're just repeating yourself like a parrot. But that is usually what programmed/indoctrinated drones do.

 

[Falcon29]

As you requested: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/incoming/article256414.ece
it's pay per view, but if you search for the headline you can read it in blogs.
Obviously no amount of evidence will convince a brainwashed mind who finds no fault in an unqualified Nazi sympathizer investigating Israeli alleged war crimes.
I am not talking about every human rights organization in the world. I am talking about the organization who's report you quoted. Where have I referred to other HR organizations? reading deficiency?
Israel did not take part in this investigation, material forwarded by the IDF was disregarded because it didn't suit the agenda.

Ha Ha Ha! Look at the author, Jonathan foreman, oh that's great. A allegation made by a bigot about one employee and that somehow has anything to do with Israel's documented warcrimes by multiple organizations. Dismissed. Try again.

 

[Falcon29]

How old are you? 5? It is the modern era, the documentation is massive. What I have quoted it undisputed by any sane person with actual historical knowledge, not so by childish daydreamers, i see.

Israel attacked Egypt before Jordan began shelling Israel. Iseael started the war, quit acting oblivious to that fact.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Israel attacked Egypt before Jordan began shelling Israel. Iseael started the war, quit acting oblivious to that fact.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Look the female IDF snorlax is back...

The tunnel was going to be used in the war had Israel gone on with a ground invasion and Hamas would have rightfully captured Israeli soldiers. Or attack an IDF deployment area.

That won't make a difference for you as you keep spreading lies thinking Muslims here will believe them.

Bin Zonah.

He he he he. Everything should revolve around religion.

 

[PeaceGen]

Do you have any evidence of any undeclared facility, producing nukes?
You are making the claim, thus the onus is on you to satisfy your burden of proof.

no problemo - https://www.google.com/search?q=stuxnet

Like I said, we allow unconditional inspections.

http://www.freeinews.com/united-states/should-the-us-believe-in-iran-and-rouhanis-charm-offensive

The pressure is on Iran to allow more inspections by the International Atomic Energy Agency, permit examinations of its uranium enriched stockpiles, open up inspections of its underground Fordo nuclear facility, and dismantle its nuclear weapons program.

http://www.theoslotimes.com/irans-a...lomats-hoping-for-progress-such-as-on-access/

Iran’s apparent new readiness to address international concerns about its atomic ambitions will be tested in talks with U.N. inspectors on Monday, with diplomats hoping for progress such as on access to a sensitive military site.
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Tehran denies the accusations and says it will allow visits to Parchin once the two sides have reached an agreement on how the investigation should be carried out.

If you know how you're gonna be inspected, it's dead-easy to cover things you dont want seen, up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14542438

2012 May - UN nuclear inspectors find traces of uranium enriched at 27% at Iran's Fordo nuclear site, a day after Iran and world powers hold inconclusive talks on Iran's nuclear programme in Baghdad.

2012 June - US exempts seven major customers - India, South Korea, Malaysia, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Taiwan and Turkey - from economic sanctions in return for their cutting imports of Iranian oil.

EU boycotts Iranian oil
2012 July - European Union boycott of Iranian oil exports comes into effect.

2012 September - International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) quarterly report says Iran doubles production capacity at Fordo nuclear site and "significantly hampered" IAEA ability to inspect Parchin military site.

Canada breaks off diplomatic relations over Iran's nuclear programme and support for the Assad government in Syria.

2012 October - Iran's rial currency falls to a new record low against the US dollar, having lost about losing 80% of its value since 2011 because of international sanctions. Riot police attack about 100 currency traders outside the Central Bank.

EU countries announce further sanctions against Iran over its nuclear programme, focusing on banks, trade and crucial gas imports.

2012 November - Leaked IAEA report says Iran is ready to double output at the Fordo underground uranium enrichment facility. Iran has 2,784 centrifuges there, and numbers operating could soon be increased from 700 to 1,400, the UN watchdog says.

2013 January - Iran tells IAEA it plans to upgrade uranium enrichment centrifuges at its Natanz plant, allowing it to refine uranium at a faster rate.

You're just repeating yourself like a parrot. But that is usually what programmed/indoctrinated drones do.

You falsely accuse others of what you do yourself.

 

[ResurgentIran]

no problemo - https://www.google.com/search?q=stuxnet







If you know how you're gonna be inspected, it's dead-easy to cover things you dont want seen, up.





You falsely accuse others of what you do yourself.

Fail.
Parchin is not a nuclear site. Its conventional weapons military site, and is not according to international law under requirement or scrutiny for inspections by IAEA.
Iran has before (in 2003 I believe) allowed inspections of that site, as a gesture of goodwill, where there was no evidence found of nuclear work for military purposes.

Iran does not mind opening up this site for inspection again for goodwill gesture (even if its not required to, since its not a nuclear site), but then there has to be established a certain frame-work that is consistent.
If you are gonna inspect it, and then just ask for more and more inspection of other military sites, then there is no deal.
No country on earth would allow such a thing, because of national security.
We dont have nuclear weapons and wont develop them, but we do have development of conventional weapons and other military work that we keep to ourselves, as state secrets.

Try again.

 

[PeaceGen]

Fail.
Parchin is not a nuclear site. Its conventional weapons military site, and is not according to international law under requirement or scrutiny for inspections by IAEA.
Iran has before (in 2003 I believe) allowed inspections of that site, as a gesture of goodwill, where there was no evidence found of nuclear work for military purposes.

Iran does not mind opening up this site for inspection again for goodwill gesture (even if its not required to, since its not a nuclear site), but then there has to be established a certain frame-work that is consistent.
If you are gonna inspect it, and then just ask for more and more inspection of other military sites, then there is no deal.
No country on earth would allow such a thing, because of national security.
We dont have nuclear weapons and wont develop them, but we do have development of conventional weapons and other military work that we keep to ourselves, as state secrets.

Try again.

and *that* is a clear admittance of how you do NOT allow unconditional inspections. once again, any site that aint gonna get inspected is THE place to run a nuke weapons program, under a non-nuclear facility label perhaps.

and you also ignored the newsreport I dug up about how the IAEA has already detected uranium enriched to 27% in Iran, while 2% to 5% enriched is what you use in nuclear energy generation (http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/enrichment.html).

i rest my case against you and your Iranian leaderships (political, religious and military) here, and trust that any neutral reader is convinced by what was revealed in this thread.

 

[PeaceGen]

What a load of horsesh*t. Look at the military apparatus of Israel, and then compare to Palestinians.
You have one side which is ockupying, and another side which constitutes the opressed ockupied (living in ethnic bantustans surrounded by walls). The balance is assymetrical.
So the onus is solely on Israel. Either it can give up ockupation, or it can not. Period

As long as the Palestinians cling to violent resistance as any form of solution to any of their problems, they give the Israelis valid reason to show the Palestinians the counter-productiveness of their violent resistance (by for instance building more and more settlements and keeping those secure from attacks by Palestinians).

And the Israelis are not occupying Palestinian lands, it's just that Palestinians whine about how land was stolen and occupied, while they could turn to those arab neighbor countries for the land they need for a state of their own.

Give up violent resistance, ensure that no arab/palestinian practices violent resistance, and develop non-violent resistance forms, to stand a much better chance of getting some reasoanble Palestinian wishes turned into reality.

 

[PeaceGen]

Have you ever been to Gaza?

I don't think I would even be allowed in by the Israelis Besides, going there is pointless because the moment I voice the ideas I post here verbally to "influential palestinians" on their home turf, i'd be a dead man..

But I take the wellreported actual policies of the Taliban (afghan/pakistan) as an example, and groups like them in Africa (alShabaab, etc), and in particular how they 'deal with social missteps (especially by women!)', and how they protect the many ways in which women are oppressed, and don't allow music or shaving, as examples of what an 'islamic state' organized by extremists ends up being. Oh, and let's not forget how the Taliban makes money; heroin production and sales, and other despicable economic activities. Not exactly good governance, by my standards.

 

[PeaceGen]

Don't you love how the guy lecturing us on world events and good causes is always an unemployed doofus. Ha Ha Ha.

i've got multiple jobs that matter, misguided fool.