Modi’s India is a living nightmare for Muslims

[thesolar65]

Rana Ayub and Washington Post!

 

[Death Professor]

don't try to play muslim ummah card , bangladesh was 90 percent muslim , large scale killing was done there , why ? they were not pakistani ?

civil war people die. no one is playing muslim ummah card. Kashmir freedom struggle is not new. Bangladesh didn't border Pakistan and even it's muslims are far different compared to muslims in Pakistan. Kashmir muslims are much more similar to Pakistani muslims. If you were a muslim you would understand the difference in-between muslims, how sect's work or how the strictness between each household of a muslim work. How we(Pakistani's) are different from Irani, Saudi, Afghani muslims. And again I assure we are very similar to Kashmir's as compared to Bangladeshi's.

Bangladesh shouldn't have been part of Pakistan. Founding father's did not took that into consideration. I am not going to divert the topic but I would state again Kashmir will be with Pakistan but rest of muslim's of India would have to fight for their own freedom if their rights are being violated. When none of them could own a house in mumbai, when they are getting lynched over cow qurbani's, when their holy places are being decimated just because 1000 year ago it was some hindu temple, when not a single muslim could be a PM in 71 years of secular democracy while having a reasonable population of 21 crore's(15-17 % of total population)

 

[N.Siddiqui]

The shift in India’s attitude toward minorities is being met with resistance and response by writers, artists and activists. Even Bollywood, which usually keeps its distance from politics, is responding in small ways. A film released in August titled “Mulk” (Nation) tells the story of a Muslim family that is forced to prove its patriotism in the face of a prejudiced police force and society. The film is a work of fiction but reflects the agony of the 180 million Muslims in India.

Ever since 1947, Muslims have consciously chosen to place their destiny in the hands of a secular India, believing in the guiding principles of democracy. That faith is now being tested every day. In 2014, when Modi was elected prime minister, Muslims knew they now had a leader who carried the stigma of ruling the state of Gujarat in 2002, when nearly 800 Muslims were massacred in a planned attack by Hindu mobs. In its verdict on those riots, the Supreme Court of India described Modi’s government at the time as “modern-day Neros” who looked elsewhere when “innocent children and helpless women were burning.”

In Modi’s India today, as acts of communal violence increase, the worst fears of Indian Muslims are coming true.

It is not about Modi's India, though the thin veil of fake secularism in India has gone, the fallacy or the anomaly lies and it is intrinsic to it and that is Hinduism, the religion itself...






The author of the Indian Constitution, a Dalit Hindu who later converted to Buddhism, Dr. Ambedkar, said the following about Hinduism/Hindus

1."To the Untouchables, Hinduism is a veritable chamber of horrors" -

2. "To put the matter in general terms, Hinduism and social union are incompatible. By its very genius Hinduism believes in social separation, which is another name for social disunity and even creates social separation. If Hindus wish to be one, they will have to discard Hinduism. They cannot be one without violating Hinduism. Hinduism is the greatest obstacle to Hindu Unity. Hinduism cannot create that longing to belong which is the basis of all social unity. On the contrary Hinduism creates an eagerness to separate."

3. "Indeed the ideal Hindu must be like a rat living in his own hole, refusing to have any contact with others. There is an utter lack among the Hindus of what the sociologists call "consciousness of kind." There is no Hindu consciousness of kind. In every Hindu the consciousness that exists is the consciousness of his caste. That is the reason why the Hindus cannot be said to form a society or a nation."

4. "In the Hindu religion, one can[not] have freedom of speech. A Hindu must surrender his freedom of speech. He must act according to the Vedas. If the Vedas do not support the actions, instructions must be sought from the Smritis, and if the Smritis fail to provide any such instructions, he must follow in the footsteps of the great men. He is not supposed to reason. Hence, so long as you are in the Hindu religion, you cannot expect to have freedom of thought."

5. "If Hindu Raj does become a fact, it will, no doubt be the greatest calamity for this country. No matter what the Hindus say, Hinduism is a menace to liberty, equality and fraternity. It is incompatible with democracy. Hindu raj must be prevented at any cost."

 

[MultaniGuy]

It is not about Modi's India, though the thin veil of fake secularism in India has gone, the fallacy or the anomaly lies and it is intrinsic to it and that is Hinduism, the religion itself...






The author of the Indian Constitution, a Dalit Hindu who later converted to Buddhism, Dr. Ambedkar, said the following about Hinduism/Hindus

1."To the Untouchables, Hinduism is a veritable chamber of horrors" -

2. "To put the matter in general terms, Hinduism and social union are incompatible. By its very genius Hinduism believes in social separation, which is another name for social disunity and even creates social separation. If Hindus wish to be one, they will have to discard Hinduism. They cannot be one without violating Hinduism. Hinduism is the greatest obstacle to Hindu Unity. Hinduism cannot create that longing to belong which is the basis of all social unity. On the contrary Hinduism creates an eagerness to separate."

3. "Indeed the ideal Hindu must be like a rat living in his own hole, refusing to have any contact with others. There is an utter lack among the Hindus of what the sociologists call "consciousness of kind." There is no Hindu consciousness of kind. In every Hindu the consciousness that exists is the consciousness of his caste. That is the reason why the Hindus cannot be said to form a society or a nation."

4. "In the Hindu religion, one can[not] have freedom of speech. A Hindu must surrender his freedom of speech. He must act according to the Vedas. If the Vedas do not support the actions, instructions must be sought from the Smritis, and if the Smritis fail to provide any such instructions, he must follow in the footsteps of the great men. He is not supposed to reason. Hence, so long as you are in the Hindu religion, you cannot expect to have freedom of thought."

5. "If Hindu Raj does become a fact, it will, no doubt be the greatest calamity for this country. No matter what the Hindus say, Hinduism is a menace to liberty, equality and fraternity. It is incompatible with democracy. Hindu raj must be prevented at any cost."

Too late now, Hindu Raj is happening in India when the BJP won in power.

But to be fair Hindus make 80% of India.

Its their country, no one can say anything.

 

[HariPrasad]

Cool... They deserve it... Hindutvaism is good for Pakistan.

Support RSS. Break India.

This is the dream of you guys for last 7 decades. In the process you became half and on the verge of being 1/10th. However we respect the wishful thinking and dream of people.

I have seen many guys on Pakistan TV cursing their grand fathers for migrating to Pakistan. They abuse their fore fathers like anything for their biggest mistake. One Pakistani shayar has written " Dhadhakte registano ke khatir, mahekte gulistan chood aye". This one sentence describe what migrant form India think about India and Pakistan.

 

[Death Professor]

It is not about Modi's India, though the thin veil of fake secularism in India has gone, the fallacy or the anomaly lies and it is intrinsic to it and that is Hinduism, the religion itself...






The author of the Indian Constitution, a Dalit Hindu who later converted to Buddhism, Dr. Ambedkar, said the following about Hinduism/Hindus

1."To the Untouchables, Hinduism is a veritable chamber of horrors" -

2. "To put the matter in general terms, Hinduism and social union are incompatible. By its very genius Hinduism believes in social separation, which is another name for social disunity and even creates social separation. If Hindus wish to be one, they will have to discard Hinduism. They cannot be one without violating Hinduism. Hinduism is the greatest obstacle to Hindu Unity. Hinduism cannot create that longing to belong which is the basis of all social unity. On the contrary Hinduism creates an eagerness to separate."

3. "Indeed the ideal Hindu must be like a rat living in his own hole, refusing to have any contact with others. There is an utter lack among the Hindus of what the sociologists call "consciousness of kind." There is no Hindu consciousness of kind. In every Hindu the consciousness that exists is the consciousness of his caste. That is the reason why the Hindus cannot be said to form a society or a nation."

4. "In the Hindu religion, one can[not] have freedom of speech. A Hindu must surrender his freedom of speech. He must act according to the Vedas. If the Vedas do not support the actions, instructions must be sought from the Smritis, and if the Smritis fail to provide any such instructions, he must follow in the footsteps of the great men. He is not supposed to reason. Hence, so long as you are in the Hindu religion, you cannot expect to have freedom of thought."

5. "If Hindu Raj does become a fact, it will, no doubt be the greatest calamity for this country. No matter what the Hindus say, Hinduism is a menace to liberty, equality and fraternity. It is incompatible with democracy. Hindu raj must be prevented at any cost."

Man it is horrifying to this extent that gau rakha people are even after dalit's.


On Sunday, members of a Dalit family that had been targeted by cow vigilantes in Una, Gujarat, in July 2016, and nearly 300 other Dalits converted to Buddhism at Mota Samadhiyala village, where they had been allegedly beaten by the gaurakshaks. Pradip Parmar, a Dalit MLA from the BJP who attended the function, told The Indian Express: “I am a BJP worker, but had Babasaheb not given the Constitution and the provision of reservation, I would not have become an MLA.”

https://indianexpress.com/article/e...-convert-to-buddhism-in-gujarats-una-5157770/

 

[Safriz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1070904364234129409

 

[Imran Khan]

i have no mercy for them . i still remember indian muslims were mocking us when we were in war against terror . they should taste it .

 

[MultaniGuy]

This is the dream of you guys for last 7 decades. In the process you became half and on the verge of being 1/10th. However we respect the wishful thinking and dream of people.

I have seen many guys on Pakistan TV cursing their grand fathers for migrating to Pakistan. They abuse their fore fathers like anything for their biggest mistake. One Pakistani shayar has written " Dhadhakte registano ke khatir, mahekte gulistan chood aye". This one sentence describe what migrant form India think about India and Pakistan.

Ummm...what is this bullshit. I am grateful for partition. Stop making up shit.

 

[Nilgiri]

Don't obfuscate with nonsense. India will obviously get more tourists because India has more clout in the world than Pakistan does.

Even for your higher than moutains friend China (with all the CPEC related visits)?

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1492806/braving-security-fears-chinese-seek-silk-road-riches-pakistan/

a source in the foreign ministry said about 71,000 Chinese nationals visited in 2016.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-of-chinese-tourists/articleshow/65176990.cms

India received about 247,000 Chinese tourists last year—a marginal decline from about 251,000 in 2016.

Now shoo.

After you and tomato picker tag me here (and you even insinuate I am "Hindutva loser" out of the blue)?

Didn't like the harsh number facts I brought (and me saying dont throw stones when you are in glass house based on it)....so its suddenly a hurried"shoo" as your response.

@ranjeet @Roybot @Skull and Bones @hellfire

Even then India failed for last 70 years to make India matta one. Face the reality India even in 100 years will not have capacity to contain Pakistan

We are talking about Pakistan containment here? I thought we are talking about you have to be doing lot better in freedom metrics than someone before you can throw stones at them?

Who is talking about containment of Pakistan? That is your own bogeyman fear inside you. You are your own worst enemy....that wont change in a million years.

 

[MultaniGuy]

No you

Even for your higher than moutains friend China (with all the CPEC related visits)?

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1492806/braving-security-fears-chinese-seek-silk-road-riches-pakistan/

a source in the foreign ministry said about 71,000 Chinese nationals visited in 2016.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-of-chinese-tourists/articleshow/65176990.cms

India received about 247,000 Chinese tourists last year—a marginal decline from about 251,000 in 2016.



After you and tomato picker tag me here (and you even insinuate I am "Hindutva loser" out of the blue)?

Didn't like the harsh number facts I brought (and me saying dont throw stones when you are in glass house based on it)....so its suddenly a hurried"shoo" as your response.

@ranjeet @Roybot @Skull and Bones @hellfire



We are talking about Pakistan containment here? I thought we are talking about you have to be doing lot better in freedom metrics than someone before you can throw stones at them?

Who is talking about containment of Pakistan? That is your own bogeyman fear inside you. You are your own worst enemy....that wont change in a million years.

No you are just talking utter rubbish. Obviously more people will visit India because India has a larger clout in world affairs than Pakistan does.

Your stupidity knows no bounds.

Now shoo before I call the mods.

Actually I praise Pakistan for being able to stand up to an enemy which has 1.3 billion people or India which is 17.9% of humanity! LOL!
Pakistan only has a population of 200 million people (2.6% of humanity) and one third by territory the size of India.

So who has more brains? Pakistan or India? Pakistan does because Pakistan is able to pin India down and counter it still despite the population disparity.

You cannot still stand up to Pakistan. Let alone the might of China.
Indians always dream of competing with China.

Which they will never be able to do.

And then Indians like to compare their space industry to Russia and USA.

Just our nuclear weapons are enough to destroy your civilization. LOL!

Now bug off!

@war&peace @BHarwana take care of this Indiot. He is crossing his limits.

 

[ranjeet]

Professional breastbeater quoting a fake report on hate crime to push her agenda and fearmongering. It's good if she believes this nonsense will help Muslims of India, we all know the reality. It's about time Indian muslims pull up their socks and start working to uplift themseleves their randi rona won't be entertained anymore.

 

[Death Professor]

Professional breastbeater quoting a fake report on hate crime to push her agenda and fearmongering. It's good if she believes this nonsense will help Muslims of India, we all know the reality. It's about time Indian muslims pull up their socks and start working to uplift themseleves their randi rona won't be entertained anymore.

shhhhh...................

 

[khansaheeb]

i have no mercy for them . i still remember indian muslims were mocking us when we were in war against terror . they should taste it .

They have to otherwise the they would be burnt alive in their homes.

 

[lonelyman]

At the crack of dawn on Dec. 5, 1992 , my mother found a poster on the door of our apartment in Mumbai (then Bombay). The poster had an image of the Babri Mosque, painted in black with men holding swords standing in a circle around the monument. It read “Chalo Ayodhya 6 December” (let’s march to Ayodhya on Dec. 6). The Babri Masjid, a 16th-century mosque built by Mughal emperor Babur in Ayodhya, a town 960 miles from Mumbai, had been a disputed structure for years; some Hindu leaders alleged that it was built over the birthplace of Lord Ram. In the 1990s, right-wing Hindu leaders and members of the conservative Bharatiya Janata Party started a polarizing movement, and ultimately called on Hindus all over the country to converge in Ayodhya on Dec. 6 to demolish the mosque.

Hindu nationalists responded to that call and climbed on top of the mosque brandishing swords. The grand mosque, a symbol of faith for India’s largest minority, was razed to the ground. Overnight the patriarch of our family, who was feted as a progressive writer and a government school teacher, was reduced to being merely a “Muslim.” Provocative speeches by leaders of the BJP and other right-wing groups fueled a whirlwind of carnage: More than 2,000 people, mostly Muslims, were killed around country; Mumbai alone witnessed 500 murders.

It was then that we, the sole Muslim occupants of a Hindu residential colony, began to feel that we didn’t belong. We moved to a Muslim-dominated pocket of Mumbai -- India’s most cosmopolitan city.

BJP and its leaders who led the campaign for the demolition of the Babri Masjid in Ayodhya were voted to power in the general election that followed.

Twenty-six years later, as India marks the anniversary of the demolition of the mosque, Indian Muslims continue to live their worst nightmare as they wake up each morning to humiliating and threatening discourse by legislators and members of the ruling party.

Anti-Muslim hate crimes are not just encouraged but also rewarded by those in power. According to a report on hate crimes released by Fact Checker, 76 percent of victims of hate crimes in India over the past 10 years have been Muslims. Ninety percent of these attacks have occurred since Prime Minister Narendra Modi was voted into power in 2014.

By labeling Muslims as “beef eaters” and expanding bans on the consumption of beef by putting in place new rules to curtail cow slaughter that disadvantage Muslim and lower-caste Hindus, the Hindu nationalist BJP is encouraging young Hindu men to become so-called cow vigilantes, who brandish their patriotism and faith by physically attacking Muslims. Even a rumor that a Muslim family ate beef for dinner, or a Muslim man ferried a cow to a slaughterhouse, can prove fatal in the hinterlands today.

When Muslims are not being lynched for bovine-related reasons, they are attacked for marrying Hindu girls, for sporting a beard, or for wearing a skullcap or other symbols of religious identity. They are berated on popular, state-favored news channels for being ungrateful betrayers and traitors who have no love for the national flag.

Attacks on Indian Muslims are also a part of a wider campaign to undermine the community and its rich history. The Taj Mahal is an iconic 17th-century mausoleum, built by another Mughal emperor, Shah Jahan, but it is frequently disparaged in remarks by Modi’s deputies. Yogi Adityanath, Modi’s choice as chief minister of India’s largest state, Uttar Pradesh, has stated that the Taj Mahal isn’t sufficiently Indian — code for belonging to India’s Islamic past. “Foreign dignitaries visiting the country used to be gifted replicas of the Taj Mahal and other minarets, which did not reflect Indian culture,” he said at a rally in the state of Bihar last year. “Now, [Hindu] holy books such as the Bhagavad Gita and the Ramayana are offered as gifts.” In the past six months, names of iconic cities and railway stations such as Allahabad and Mughal Sarai named after Muslim figures have been changed to reflect Hindu culture.

The obliteration of India’s Islamic history and culture is also reflected in the rewriting of school textbooks in provinces ruled by the BJP. Mughal rulers such as Akbar and Shah Jahan who embellished India’s cultural legacy are being reintroduced in academia as debauched, villainous invaders who robbed India of its Hindu heritage.

Communal fault-lines are not new in the country. When India was partitioned in 1947 — leading to the creation of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan — tens of millions of Muslims chose a secular India as their homeland; they were betting on a more promising future in a country that enshrined religious equality into its constitution. But Hindu nationalists have long claimed a greater moral right over the nation and have questioned the patriotism of Indian Muslims. And the prejudice is no longer just rhetorical. It has turned into violent hatred that has spilled onto the streets of the country.

The shift in India’s attitude toward minorities is being met with resistance and response by writers, artists and activists. Even Bollywood, which usually keeps its distance from politics, is responding in small ways. A film released in August titled “Mulk” (Nation) tells the story of a Muslim family that is forced to prove its patriotism in the face of a prejudiced police force and society. The film is a work of fiction but reflects the agony of the 180 million Muslims in India.

Ever since 1947, Muslims have consciously chosen to place their destiny in the hands of a secular India, believing in the guiding principles of democracy. That faith is now being tested every day. In 2014, when Modi was elected prime minister, Muslims knew they now had a leader who carried the stigma of ruling the state of Gujarat in 2002, when nearly 800 Muslims were massacred in a planned attack by Hindu mobs. In its verdict on those riots, the Supreme Court of India described Modi’s government at the time as “modern-day Neros” who looked elsewhere when “innocent children and helpless women were burning.”

In Modi’s India today, as acts of communal violence increase, the worst fears of Indian Muslims are coming true.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...muslims/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.700d7dda4aeb

Not surprised, butcher of Gujara, what can we expect? Even Americans banned him at first