Mike Pompeo phones COAS Qamar Bajwa, talks about Gen Soleimani’s killing

[Basel]

they don't need a single inch of Pakistani land to attack Iran they have enough bases near Iran to execute their war operations

They always take all options available.

 

[MastanKhan]

Isn’t it against the protocol? Why COAS received call when we have our foreign office freaking functioning? The call should have come via diplomatic channels .. shouldn’t COAS have refused the call?

Hi,

Well---he called the source of power directly---.

 

[Meengla]

You need American Spirit of the South ... Last night I told my wife about the region falling into another war possible with US involved in it, she was like lets go to Canada hahaha she thought this Iranian General was some Pakistani General ( yeah I know my wife's Geography is bad ) , but she sure knows that never to call any Pakistani, a Indian hahah

You know that you and I are in the same boat: Pakistanis married to Southern women!

So my wife was talking to me worried about 'another Middle Eastern War' some hours ago; I didn't pay much attention to that, thinking the drama at the US Embassy in Baghdad wasn't going to lead to a war: I thought it was between some Iraqi militia $issed off about US strikes in Iraq and it didnt' seem unusual in Iraq. So I calmed her down: Nah, nothing of another ME war is going to happen.
But once I saw the news of General Soleimani's assassination, I realized the significance of the brewing crises and for her angst.
She didn't know if the killed guy was from Iran! Just that she knew that something major was happening there. Her complaint was: Why are they attacking us in Iraq? I asked: What are WE doing there in the first place? It's their country, their region, and we are bombing them for a long time. She agreed: We need to get the hell out of the Middle East affairs.

Trump's Southern and Evangelical Christian base are so blinded by patriotism and love for Israel that it's the biggest threat to the global (or at least the Middle Eastern) peace IMO!

A good deal of American policies are irrational!! Don't put too much faith into US foreign affairs' logic. POTUS has a lot of power, despite the supposed checks and balances in the system, and despite requiring Congressional approvals for war, and despite some mythical cold-calculated way Americans work. Had they not been irrational, being driven by a cornered maniac in charge President, then we wouldn't have large segments of Americans writing against the assassination of Mr. Suleimani and we wouldn't have the leading Democratic candidates--mind you, one of them may well become the next POTUS-- berating Trump over the Suleimani assassination!

We have a mad-man in the White House! A fratboy who has nothing to lose. Even if he's impeached, he has a skin thicker than an alligator and will go on living a comfortable life. A place in history? A disgrace in history? Nah, you need a sense of history, of destiny to be bothered with such niceties. He has none!

 

[Thorough Pro]

This was the reason for US advisory to US airlines to avoid airspace near Pakistan and fanboys were predicting Pak-India war.

ISLAMABAD – US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo made a telephonic call to Chief of Army Staff General Qamar Javed Bajwa on Thursday.

In a tweet, Mike Pompeo said: “I spoke with Pakistan’s Chief of Staff General Bajwa today about US defensive action to kill Qassem Soleimani. The Iran regime’s actions in the region are destabilizing and our resolve in protecting American interests, personnel, facilities, and partners will not waver.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1213122193204432896

Meanwhile, Mike Pompeo also spoke with Afghan President Ashraf Ghani and told him that Trump’s decision to kill Qassem Soleimani is to protect American lives at stake. “The Iranian regime’s actions are a source of instability throughout the region. The US will protect its people and its interests.”

Earlier in interviews on Fox News and CNN, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said that a US air strike in Baghdad that killed a top Iranian commander aimed to disrupt an “imminent attack” that would have endangered Americans in the Middle East.

He declined to discuss many details of the alleged threat but said it was ‘an intelligence-based assessment’ that drove the US decision to target Qassem Soleimani.

“He was actively plotting in the region to take actions – a big action as he described it — that would have put dozens if not hundreds of American lives at risk. We know it was imminent,” Pompeo told CNN, echoing an earlier Pentagon statement on Thursday.

“These were threats that were located in the region,” Pompeo added. “Last night was the time that we needed to strike to make sure that this imminent attack … was disrupted.”

“What was sitting before us was his travels throughout the region, his efforts to make a significant strike against Americans,” Pompeo said separately on Fox News. “There would have been many Muslims killed as well, Iraqis and people in other countries.”

SOURCE: https://92newshd.tv/mike-pompeo-phones-coas-qamar-bajwa-talks-about-gen-soleimanis-killing

 

[Hayreddin]

Us iran conflict can disrupt gulf oil supply .
Pakistan oil reserves are limited to few days in case of indo pak conflict .
India is waiting to attack on " right" time and israel is its guiding star .
Before pakistan option B or C were open . In case of IN blocking sea pakistan cld have gone for border supply from iran and getting some fuel frm china . But iran us conflict wld close all those venues .
China 80 % fuel supply is frm gulf so they wont be able to hep on any way .
India also depends on iran n gulf oil but in case of conflict it has other venues always open .
Tricky situation ...

1 : Pakistan shld build up its oil and weaponry reserves in emergency . Atleast of 2 months in case of full fledge war .
2 : US iran conflict will eventually turn out to be SA vs Iran . Pakistan shld maintain strick neutrality .UAE and SA are unreliable now they tilt toward india more .
3: neutrality shld be maintained until n unless Makkah and Medina is in threat .
4 : pakistan shld make unified approach by alliance with malaysia and Turkey toward any future gulf conflict of US , SA UAE vs iran conflict .if Peace of makkah and medina is on stack , combined forces of pakistan , turkey and malaysia shld take charge of the cities . Remember Makkah and medina is for UMMAH not property of Al e Saud or iranians..
@HRK @Foxtrot Delta @waz

 

[ARMalik]

There is going to be no war - Iran is not stupid. And with Russia next door, there isn't too much else the US can do expect kill Iranians outside of Iran. What was this general doing anyway in Iraq and travelling like a peasant?

 

[YeBeWarned]

You know that you and I are in the same boat: Pakistanis married to Southern women!

One more Reason i can give you, we both are from Karachi You could probably see your younger self in me ( take it lightly as a joke ) .

So my wife was talking to me worried about 'another Middle Eastern War' some hours ago; I didn't pay much attention to that, thinking the drama at the US Embassy in Baghdad wasn't going to lead to a war: I thought it was between some Iraqi militia $issed off about US strikes in Iraq and it didnt' seem unusual in Iraq. So I calmed her down: Nah, nothing of another ME war is going to happen.
But once I saw the news of General Soleimani's assassination, I realized the significance of the brewing crises and for her angst.
She didn't know if the killed guy was from Iran! Just that she knew that something major was happening there. Her complaint was: Why are they attacking us in Iraq? I asked: What are WE doing there in the first place? It's their country, their region, and we are bombing them for a long time. She agreed: We need to get the hell out of the Middle East affairs.

Your wife seems to take interest in region and world Politics, my wife is young her most of interests are you can imagine where , Lists of stuff she wants for our home , kids , herself and me .. hahaha
but one thing she is know that we are Pakistani's , and our enemy is India .. I can safely say she doesn't like India and never show a tiny bit of Interest in going there even for famous tourist destination . Thing is I often tell her about the issues and wrongs Pakistan did, and yet she feel so happy and Proud calling herself Half Pakistani , and very excited about getting a Pakistani Passport .
When i told her , she thought America killed some Pakistani General, and she immediately start blaming India for it, she was like Damn these must be Indians who paid American forces to do so etc etc, I was like No no wait, we can fight India another day, this has nothing to do with us , its America killed some Iranian General in Iraq, and she was like Ahhhh well , than Whatever .. hahaha
But I agree that me and my wife often talk about such things, and she is also convinced that America should not interfere in other countries definitely not bombing them .

My wife has this fear that, As American Army goes in other countries to fight, she believe that one day our kids might be enrolled in Army to go fight, and she thinks that at some point America will bring Conscription as Army is not getting new recruits ( her words , can't confirm her claim ) . I don't even know if Kids of a Immigrant from Pakistan with a American wife can even Join Army ?

Trump's Southern and Evangelical Christian base are so blinded by patriotism and love for Israel that it's the biggest threat to the global (or at least the Middle Eastern) peace IMO!

No Offense to anyone but she loath's the Evangelical Christians and the Churches near by, she said they are fraud and child molesters , No offense to anyone .. As per her words they blackmail and use various tactics to extract money as donations from people , while some of the priest molested Children and worse part is that no one even file report for them . I gave her permission to keep her religion and in fact i offer her to be in Church with her if she wants to , I said I could just sit there quietly while she can pray and than we leave , but as we used to talk and discuss things she decided to accept Islam on her own . Her Opinion over Israel is very simple , its one country America will destroy everyone other country to protect this one , she doesn't know history but she understand that much, and honestly speaking I can't argue with her on that .

A good deal of American policies are irrational!! Don't put too much faith into US foreign affairs' logic. POTUS has a lot of power, despite the supposed checks and balances in the system, and despite requiring Congressional approvals for war, and despite some mythical cold-calculated way Americans work. Had they not been irrational, being driven by a cornered maniac in charge President, then we wouldn't have large segments of Americans writing against the assassination of Mr. Suleimani and we wouldn't have the leading Democratic candidates--mind you, one of them may well become the next POTUS-- berating Trump over the Suleimani assassination!

You know since I wrote about my Marriage here with a America, and every time I criticize White supremacists or American Policy people will call me Anti American, some goes like if you hate America so much why begging to go there ? I was like I don't hate America or Americans I just disagree or Dislike American Policies towards other countries, how does that makes me Anti American ? I wish these people can read your posts, And i assume you are now American Citizen, so no one can tell you what they tell me .. Only person from US who understands, is @KAL-EL I respect him to understand my point .

We have a mad-man in the White House! A fratboy who has nothing to lose. Even if he's impeached, he has a skin thicker than an alligator and will go on living a comfortable life. A place in history? A disgrace in history? Nah, you need a sense of history, of destiny to be bothered with such niceties. He has none!

Donald Trump to my knowledge is sick and Mentally unstable, weather its his comments on Women , or making fun of a Journalist with Disability , or saying Islam Hates us , or asking for Violence against protesters , saying White Supremacists has fine people , lying without any repercussion , Changing his statements , calling African countries Shit hole , Treating Mexicans and other RACES , this man is not mentally stable to me .. But he is POTUS and we have to deal with it just like the world, the thing I like about him is that he is unpredictable , he is not a Liar or polished Politicians like Democrats who sold off their souls to Powerful lobbies, Yes trump is also under Lobbies but we do know that he may turned around at them at any given time . I think he will surely be the most weirdest President in History of USA .

 

[HRK]

Us iran conflict can disrupt gulf oil supply .
Pakistan oil reserves are limited to few days in case of indo pak conflict .
India is waiting to attack on " right" time and israel is its guiding star .
Before pakistan option B or C were open . In case of IN blocking sea pakistan cld have gone for border supply from iran and getting some fuel frm china . But iran us conflict wld close all those venues .
China 80 % fuel supply is frm gulf so they wont be able to hep on any way .
India also depends on iran n gulf oil but in case of conflict it has other venues always open .
Tricky situation ...

1 : Pakistan shld build up its oil and weaponry reserves in emergency . Atleast of 2 months in case of full fledge war .
2 : US iran conflict will eventually turn out to be SA vs Iran . Pakistan shld maintain strick neutrality .UAE and SA are unreliable now they tilt toward india more .
3: neutrality shld be maintained until n unless Makkah and Medina is in threat .
4 : pakistan shld make unified approach by alliance with malaysia and Turkey toward any future gulf conflict of US , SA UAE vs iran conflict .if Peace of makkah and medina is on stack , combined forces of pakistan , turkey and malaysia shld take charge of the cities . Remember Makkah and medina is for UMMAH not property of Al e Saud or iranians..
@HRK @Foxtrot Delta @waz

1- alternatives are available for energy resources

2- Its premature to say anything now .... but situation could go worst .... as per my understanding immediate fallout would remain within the borders of Iraq for short period of time, first both US and Iran would try to eliminate opposite actors and elements in Iraq

3- Neutrality must be maintain at any cost, as far as the security of Makha and Madina is concerned it would not be threatened by Iran, it's a commonsense

4- NO Pakistan should strictly stay out of any formal political alliance with anyone related to Middle East for some time, our official stance should be a call to Respect Sovereignty and Territorial Integrity of all countries by all sides involve in the conflict ....

 

[khansaheeb]

US said to Pakistan stay away from this mess...

Or was it please save our ar$e when we mess it up.

 

[litman]

Us iran conflict can disrupt gulf oil supply .
Pakistan oil reserves are limited to few days in case of indo pak conflict .
India is waiting to attack on " right" time and israel is its guiding star .
Before pakistan option B or C were open . In case of IN blocking sea pakistan cld have gone for border supply from iran and getting some fuel frm china . But iran us conflict wld close all those venues .
China 80 % fuel supply is frm gulf so they wont be able to hep on any way .
India also depends on iran n gulf oil but in case of conflict it has other venues always open .
Tricky situation ...

1 : Pakistan shld build up its oil and weaponry reserves in emergency . Atleast of 2 months in case of full fledge war .
2 : US iran conflict will eventually turn out to be SA vs Iran . Pakistan shld maintain strick neutrality .UAE and SA are unreliable now they tilt toward india more .
3: neutrality shld be maintained until n unless Makkah and Medina is in threat .
4 : pakistan shld make unified approach by alliance with malaysia and Turkey toward any future gulf conflict of US , SA UAE vs iran conflict .if Peace of makkah and medina is on stack , combined forces of pakistan , turkey and malaysia shld take charge of the cities . Remember Makkah and medina is for UMMAH not property of Al e Saud or iranians..
@HRK @Foxtrot Delta @waz

war in the region is unlikely. iran should act sensibly. they cant fight the whole world alone. they dont have any support from any country. russia wont come to its help like they did in syria. so they will be destroyed if they go to war.
as far as indo- pak war is concerned . if it happens at a time when gulf is in war then pak will certainly face shortage of fuel to fight a war. so it will reduce pakistan's threshold for using nukes.
who is going to attack makka or madina? iran? no they are muslims and not fools to attack these holy places. by attacking these places iran will lose even the diplomatic and moral support by the muslim countries and they will be viewed as the enemy by the whole world. secondly if at the same time pak is sensing a limited war with india then we wont be having any forces to be deployed outside pakistan as our enemy force are already three times larger then us.
pak should have carried out oil exploration in baluchistan but unfortunately we kept on sleeping and did corruption on a massive scale. the results of wars today are not dependent on how you perform on the day of war but how well you prepared for war during the peace time and we are facing many problems due to our own corruption. first large military but mostly obsolete equipment. second poor economy leading to obsolete equipment being used by our military. thirdly lack of fuel reserves.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Or was it please save our ar$e when we mess it up.

US will call Pakistan to save their arse lmao and will you do that playing a role mediator between US and Iran? Forget about it

 

[Ali_Baba]

Wait.. Pompeo calls the COAS asking for Pakistani help against Iran? Isn't Pompeo who "approved" the bombing of Azad Kashmir by the Indian airforce on a FALSE pretext so he could cousy up with India ??? Allowing India to become judge, jury and executioner without any proof ? And right after he then said that India has every right to boom Azad Kashmir whenever they want to ??

Am I missing anything here? This is the same bloke?

...boy, i wonder what the COAS said to him for real!!! lol !!

 

[Cookie Monster]

US could be pissed off due to no progress in afghan talks hence trying all these games to scare iran to get a way out?

@blain2 @Mangus Ortus Novem your say sirs?

IMO a direct war between Iran and US is probably unlikely...not bcuz they are both gonna suddenly peacefully resolve their problems...but bcuz circumstances for a direct war for both are unfavorable at the moment.

US...despite trying to end the Afghanistan war and looking for a way out...is still stuck there. Even if an agreement was reached today...it will take some time to finalize everything and withdraw troops and equipment...at least a few months at the earliest and by that time things wouldn't be as tense as they are now with the recent assassination of the General. Additionally a war with Iran...would be costly. It doesn't matter that US is a superpower and can militarily win against Iran...wars are very costly especially if fought far away from home. After having spent trillions on Iraq and Afghanistan wars...it would probably make Congress unwilling to start another costly war that may take some time to conclude if ever.

As for Iran...Iran is weaker militarily as compared to the US and has been sanctioned for a long time, which has hit Iran's economy for a while. So Iran wouldn't find a direct war favorable as well. Their will be verbal threats and sabre rattling...and possibly some attacks on American assets in the region like in Iraq or Afghanistan that might be indirectly supported by Iran as revenge...but that's the extent of it.

 

[HRK]

...boy, i wonder what the COAS said to him for real!!! lol !!

any of his expectation was politely denied, plz read official response as given by DG ISPR

COAS emphasised need for maximum restraint and constructive engagement by all concerned to de-escalate the situation in broader interest of peace and stability. COAS also reiterated the need for maintaining focus on success of Afghan Peace Process.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1213140192388886528

 

[Yousafzai_M]

Basically it means this can happen to Bajwa or any other Pakistani general and there is nothing Pakistan will be able to do about it.

I hope Iran takes revenge for this terrorist act of killing a true hero, not like useless Pakistani generals or the Arab hijray, but I don't see how Iran could react and then get away with it.

If I were Iranian, I would hit Israel for revenge because thats where it hurts the most.