Meat may be the reason humans outlive apes

[syedali73]

I work with monkeys (mostly Macaques and Chimps) because we are developing novel therapeutic modalities against HIV/AIDS. Non-human primates such as Macaques and Chimps are closest to the humans YET they are not human. I am not sure how correct it would be to compare Chimp's age with that of human with respect to their diet. Non-human primates look like humans but they are far from humans and mere presence of genes common between the two species actually proves nothing. Their metabolism, diseases, responses to drugs etc are all pretty different and hence many drugs tested in the monkeys fail to work in the humans and vice versa.

Another example is the mouse. On average, the protein-coding regions of the mouse and human genomes are 85 percent identical YET mouse and human are so different in just about every respect, from size to age, intelligence to susceptibility to diseases.

 

[Yogijaat]

Rich veggie @SledgeHammer

On billionaire row, it's simple, veggie fare

NEW DELHI: Reliance Industries chairman Mukesh Ambani especially ventures into restaurants to gorge on dosa and street food. UK-based Vedanta Group chief Anil Agarwal cannot do without pure vegetarian khana. Similarly, GMR Group chairman GM Rao remembers being ragged often in engineering college for his all-vegetarian diet. Successful, rich and powerful - these billionaire business tycoons, however, prefer leading a life on simple vegetarian food.

In fact, a SundayET study has revealed that a majority of the billionaire Indians belong to the die-hard vegetarian club. And the buck just doesn't stop there. A quick dip stick survey of some of the top 30 Sensex company heads further reveals that most of the names in this list too swear by an all-vegetarian diet. And the personal networth of these vegetarians too boasts of impressive figures.

As of September 26, while Mukesh Ambani has a personal networth of Rs 1,93,589 cr, the networth of Reliance Communication chairman Anil Ambani stands at Rs 1,09,677 cr. On the other hand, Aditya Birla Group chairman Kumaramangalam Birla's personal fortune stands at Rs 28,944 cr, and Mahindra and Mahindra MD Anand Mahindra, also a vegetarian, has a personal fortune of Rs 4,519 cr. ACC chairman N S Sekhsarai has a networth of Rs 4915 cr!


Surely, it pays to be a vegetarian. And there are many who can vouch for that. Be it Anil Ambani, a pure vegetarian and teetotaler, Bharti Airtel chairman Sunil Bharti Mittal who turns vegetarian before any major business move or Anand Mahindra who eats a specially prepared vegetarian lunch by Mumbai dieticians - vegetarianism clearly is just as important as is striking crucial business deals for these mighty men.

In fact, the billionaire Ambani brothers are joined by other richie rich Indians who believe in a 'vegetarian' way of life. Suzlon Energy CMD Tulsi Tanti, Adani group chairman Gautam Adani and Aditya Birla Group chairman Kumaramangalam Birla are the other famous billionaires for whom vegetarianism rules like nothing else. Incidentally, steel tycoon Lakshmi Mittal also strictly follows vegetarianism and even threw a lavish 'vegetarian reception' in 2004 for his daughter in the Palais de Versailles in France.

So what is all the obsession with being vegetarian? Ask leading celebrity chef Sanjeev Kapoor who makes no qualms in admitting that a large number of people today are demanding 100% vegetarian products. "India is a vegetarian country. Consumption of non-vegetarian food in India is quite low. Out of the 40 dishes I do on my show, only five are non-vegetarian based. Even in a non-vegetarian family in India, non-vegetarian is cooked only once or twice a week," reveals Kapoor.

Agrees Venugopal Dhoot, CMD of Videocon Industries, who relishes sarson ka saag, roti and vegetable biryani. "I am a pure vegetarian for spiritual reasons. More than 50% of Indians are vegetarians owing to religious beliefs. Besides, it also goes with India's tradition."

Kapoor and Dhoot's views are not totally unfounded. Interestingly, even some of the names in the list who love to gorge on non-vegetarian food turn vegetarian when the need arises. HDFC chairman Deepak Parekh otherwise a non-vegetarian who loves fish on the menu, prefers vegetarian food at home and loves to snack on vada-pav. Ditto for Sunil Bharti Mittal who embraces vegetarianism before any significant deal.

so much for your brain development

Get your family tested. You might be surprised. It is obvious though, meat diet would have much more concentration of several nutrients compared to vegetarians.
@Oscar The lack of nutrients that you claimed is generally found in vegans, Indian vegetarians are generally lacto-veg and not vegan, which means they suffer less from any such deficiency.

lacto veg it is, no need to test.

 

[Levina]

From the article:

"Chimpanzees and great apes are genetically similar to humans, yet they rarely live for more than 50 years. Although the average human lifespan has doubled in the last 200 years — due largely to decreased infant mortality related to advances in diet, environment and medicine — even without these improvements, people living in high mortality hunter-forager lifestyles still have twice the life expectancy at birth as wild chimpanzees do".

Oh come on!
Try this...

"The average life span in the 17th century was shorter than today. Average life expectancy at birth was only 35. That does not mean that people dropped dead when they reached that age! Instead many of the people born died while they were still children. Out of all people born between one third and one half died before the age of about 16"

Life in the 17th Century

Islamic Golden Age | Islamic History | Islamic History

 

[halupridol]

 

[SledgeHammer]

so you mean to say vegans can perform comparable or even better than meat eaters? and jains are veg from almost 2000 years their brain might have become ant sized by now?

No, I am just saying that an intelligent vegan could have been even more intelligent if he/she wasn't a vegan. Probably that's why our businesses are still to catch up with the meat-eating west (for your billionaire post).

 

[ExtraOdinary]

And they are closest to humans, maybe they should have eaten something bigger & better than ants.



You evil meat-eater.

They do

 

[Imran Khan]

ok i will eat chicken

 

[SledgeHammer]

Oh come on!
Try this...

"The average life span in the 17th century was shorter than today. Average life expectancy at birth was only 35. That does not mean that people dropped dead when they reached that age! Instead many of the people born died while they were still children. Out of all people born between one third and one half died before the age of about 16"

Life in the 17th Century

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Islamic Golden Age | Islamic History | Islamic History

Self-explanatory!! That's the problem with average, chimps don't live that long, but humans can, you can find people of 80-90 years age even in those times, but during those times people used to have 20 children and equally high child mortality rates, so if 10 people are living for 70 years, and 10 babies are dying within the 1st year, then the average becomes 35.

 

[Yogijaat]

No, I am just saying that an intelligent vegan could have been even more intelligent if he/she wasn't a vegan. Probably that's why our businesses are still to catch up with the meat-eating west (for your billionaire post).

but meat eaters are beaten by veg in india
you guys still need a lot of improvement to prove your claims in india "Best of luck to you"

and take this another veg

ghee dudh khao meat maans main kucch nahi rakha