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Massive Ambush in S. Waziristan

You nailed it. We need to have a pair of CH 4 drones in Baluchistan and also in Tribal areas 24/7 to keep angel wings. Its cheap and effective and we have got them in our arsenal, then what's stopping our top brass from not using it. Area of responsibility general alongside Bajwa needs to be brought to the assembly and need to explain themselves. Our generals definitely needs some explaining as all these attacks are going unanswered for far too long. Same line of India/TTP fed to us but where is the counter strategy and IBO;s are just not good enough. If you do the same thing everyday then results are the same too, our generals need to take some responsibility and come clean *** accountability applies to us all.
Drones are good for surveilling specific targets. 2 drones can't watch two massive districts.
 
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The people in these areas are very simple and impressionable. You say Islam and they will go full retard. TTP know this, so does the Taliban so they use religion to assert full control. Push them all out into Afghanistan and make this entire area a no go zone.

Who funded this ideology in the 70s/80s? This guy, he played you so badly. He shaped your minds and you don't even know it. Its like you are fighting yourselves almost. You don't know who to trust. He knew what he was doing and Zia played to his tune.

I think we have undone his garbage in the main cities and here in the UK but there are many still trapped in his maze.


And stop naming your ballistics after afghan/arab invaders if you have any shame.
 
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And that is why quality of this forum is going down the drains because of ignorant idiots who open threads every 2-seconds based on fake, idiotic news. And frankly, the Mods are taking no real action, and allowing this garbage to flourish here.

I complained about it but nothing happened. Whenever there is any incident involving army/FC you'll notice members with well known prejudices and documented outbursts against other ethnicities crawl out of the woodworks and start bashing national leadership and one or two ethnicities. Same is the case for any thread that mentions KSA or Iran--some morons manage to turn it in to a shia sunni thing.

PDF mods and whoever is responsible has to take serious action.
 
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This has been happening since 20 years and before that our soldiers were not even allowed to enter Waziristan and the surrounding areas. When General Musharaff sent the army, he was condemned by majority Islamic parties for sending the army. JUI, JI and their allies parties all condemned the army. Issued fatwas against them. Some religious missionary groups have high level influence inside the armed forces/government and are supporters of TTP because for them they are mujahdeen. If you don't believe me read and research when the first attack took place in the tribal areas. Which groups aligned with the militants etc.

Pakistan should have secured the Afghanistan/Pak border, placed mines on it but failed to do so, the consequences were great. Economic loss, live loss. It was like a war zone for us. Again certain powerful people delayed it.

The government should have supported the anti ttp groups in tribal areas but failed to do so, their is actually an anti ttp militant group in tribal areas but army failed to support it. No idea why?
We had so many anti ttp lashkars but they suffered alot. They needed full state support.

The higher ups are incompetent but we fail to admit it. They have no plan to deal with this problem but are letting it play out. Cowards.
 
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Drones are good for surveilling specific targets. 2 drones can't watch two massive districts.
I said two drones in each area, plus CH 4 do carry ordinance as well and they can be on the scene in matters of minutes if they are kept airborne. Our boys are not cowards and they do put up a fight and do fight back and each incident does lasts for more then few minutes and that's ample time for angels to arrive. There is something more to match the eye as something's are kept away from us and nation is taken for a ride and taken as fools like politicians are doing it. Its impossible with current finances to supply every soldier with MRAP vehicles but some element of support we can provide. Attackers must be made to pay for the attacks so they don't dare again.
 
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We will have to provide them facilities, education,their basic rights being citizens of Pakistan.what we have done for them?
They are facing war from so many decades.First soviets,then Americans.at least four decades.
It is a combine effort now. It is not the job of army to make markets and schools.It is the job of KP government now.
 
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And that is why quality of this forum is going down the drains because of ignorant idiots who open threads every 2-seconds based on fake, idiotic news. And frankly, the Mods are taking no real action, and allowing this garbage to flourish here.

Abay kia fake news

Attack has happened. Casualties have happened. ISPR would confirm it by tonight or at most by tomorrow morning

What is wrong in creating thread on this?
 
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Unit targeted was 4 Cav. TTP scums took one soldier alive as well.

Bad days ahead.
 
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No it isn't flawed

There is a reason 99% attacks have happened in North and South Waziristan. There is a reason majority of leadership of both TTP and PTM is from Waziristan

These are facts. There is no point of this forum or this thread if we don't want to discuss this fact

It doesn't prove anything to blame Waziristan. You need to get right on this. The point of this Forum is not to blame specific ethnicity or tribe for that. By the same logic, MQM, BLA, Jag Punjabi Jag and many others are to blame as well? Totally flawed. No more insults in general against any ethnicity. These people have sacrificed a lot especially during WoT.
 
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It doesn't prove anything to blame Waziristan. You need to get right on this. The point of this Forum is not to blame specific ethnicity or tribe for that. By the same logic, MQM, BLA, Jag Punjabi Jag and many others are to blame as well? Totally flawed. No more insults in general against any ethnicity. These people have sacrificed a lot especially during WoT.

Yeah if any other tribe or ethnicity is killing fellow Pakistanis with no remorse then yes they should be blamed too

But right now it is only 2 scums who are continously involved in killing Pakistanis

1. Fasadis of Waziristan
2. Marxist separatists of Balochistan

Both need to be specifically called out for their crimes and made to pay for them
These people have sacrificed a lot especially during WoT.

They killed thousands of Pakistanis
. They deserve to give much more "sacrifices" for the crimes they have committed against Muslims of Pakistan
 
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Yeah if any other tribe or ethnicity is killing fellow Pakistanis with no remorse then yes they should be blamed too

But right now it is only 2 scums who are continously involved in killing Pakistanis

1. Fasadis of Waziristan
2. Marxist separatists of Balochistan

Both need to be specifically called out for their crimes and made to pay for them

Fasadis in Waziristan and not of all Waziristan
Marxist terrorists in Balochistan

No tribe is involved in any killing. Seeing such ignorance makes me realize that how far we are from the issue and the root cause. Did you ever try to understand that how they succeed in area and recruit anyone for terrorism?
 
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