Lieutenant General Salman Fayyaz Ghani Sacked/Resigned

[PakFactor]

A lot could depend upon the COAS, the next COAS, but it’s the imminent danger to IK due to anti army stance that’s dangerous. This has escalated to another level.

I will say the danger is to both sides with high tensions. If something happens to IK, the blowback will severely affect the military. So I think that PTI and the military need to sit down and hammer out an understanding; maybe this COAS isn't an excellent choice to engage with in talks, but both sides can choose an honest, neutral individual they can trust.

In all this fighting, the only beneficiary is PDM acting all innocent, and the army knowingly or unknowingly is being played by PDM and taking the brunt of the anger.

 

[fatman17]

 

[Zibago]

A lot could depend upon the COAS, the next COAS, but it’s the imminent danger to IK due to anti army stance that’s dangerous. This has escalated to another level.

Again let me repeat myself IK is raising the stakes when we staring down the barrel of a painful default and at the same time the supreme court is constantly messing up plans of GHQ
Whether they win or lose this battle the war is turning against them by every passing day

 

[PakFactor]

I will say the danger is to both sides with high tensions. If something happens to IK, the blowback will severely affect the military. So I think that PTI and the military need to sit down and hammer out an understanding; maybe this COAS isn't an excellent choice to engage with in talks, but both sides can choose an honest, neutral individual they can trust.

In all this fighting, the only beneficiary is PDM acting all innocent, and the army knowingly or unknowingly is being played by PDM and taking the brunt of the anger.

@PanzerKiel sab,

Post like karta but lagta ap muja naraz ho, bat karni chor ga.

 

[PanzerKiel]

@PanzerKiel sab,

Post like karta but lagta ap muja naraz ho, bat karni chor ga.

Array nahin bhai, i still read your posts like before, baat karna bhi nahi chori.....

 

[Black.Mamba]

A lot could depend upon the COAS, the next COAS, but it’s the imminent danger to IK due to anti army stance that’s dangerous. This has escalated to another level.

Indian missile did not escalate it to another level, wahan saamp soung giya tha dar kay battle hardened ka

 

[Signalian]

I will say the danger is to both sides with high tensions. If something happens to IK, the blowback will severely affect the military. So I think that PTI and the military need to sit down and hammer out an understanding; maybe this COAS isn't an excellent choice to engage with in talks, but both sides can choose an honest, neutral individual they can trust.

In all this fighting, the only beneficiary is PDM acting all innocent, and the army knowingly or unknowingly is being played by PDM and taking the brunt of the anger.

Let’s say in coming months or coming years, IK becomes PM. How will he, COAS and the Army move forward together ?

Let’s say by any chance, even after swindling votes, PTI wins, IK becomes PM and COAS is Asim Munir. Tell me the outcome ?

Secondly, let’s say, after Asim retires, IK becomes PM. Now who ever would be COAS then could be a LT Gen now or maybe a Maj General now. What sentiments will that COAS hold after seeing all these episodes of enmity between army and Pti

 

[truthseeker2010]

Let’s say in coming months or coming years, IK becomes PM. How will he, COAS and the Army move forward together ?

Let’s say by any chance, even after swindling votes, PTI wins, IK becomes PM and COAS is Asim Munir. Tell me the outcome ?

Secondly, let’s say, after Asim retires, IK becomes PM. Now who ever would be COAS then could be a LT Gen now or maybe a Maj General now. What sentiments will that COAS hold after seeing all these episodes of enmity between army and Pti

Once khaki is shown the law by civilians. It would be put into its place. Nothing beyond securing the borders. Else mass purges.

 

[Zibago]

Let’s say in coming months or coming years, IK becomes PM. How will he, COAS and the Army move forward together ?

Let’s say by any chance, even after swindling votes, PTI wins, IK becomes PM and COAS is Asim Munir. Tell me the outcome ?

Secondly, let’s say, after Asim retires, IK becomes PM. Now who ever would be COAS then could be a LT Gen now or maybe a Maj General now. What sentiments will that COAS hold after seeing all these episodes of enmity between army and Pti

If IK becomes PM first thing he has to do is do an investigation into Arshad Sharif case and punish all those responsible and after that the financial affairs of army have to be controlled by civilians
Only when the lucrative ventures are taken away will they behave

 

[White privilege]

If IK becomes PM first thing he has to do is do an investigation into Arshad Sharif case and punish all those responsible and after that the financial affairs of army have to be controlled by civilians
Only when the lucrative ventures are taken away will they behave

The first thing IK needs to investigate is who fed him the '35 puncture' horseshit, that he had to backtrack all the way to the north pole, and throw the entire chain of narration under the bus in front of the courts, to save his own skin....

 

[xyx007]

Do you think Pakistani nation is stupid and cannot understand how mafia operates. The General is a hero to us, and we understand the pressure that Asim Munier and the Nawaz Mafia are putting on him. There will be a lot more clarity once the internet opens up.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1657614448943681536

 

[Dual Wielder]

Let’s say by any chance, even after swindling votes, PTI wins, IK becomes PM and COAS is Asim Munir. Tell me the outcome ?

LOL, what?? even after 'swindling votes' more like if there was a free election, Imran Khan would sweep the elections, that's why they (GHQ) have the election comission under their palms, the latter known for inteferring in riging elections on their behalf, as they have constantly done in the past (even against the founder of Pakistan Fatima Jinnah), the only dirty people are the people sitting at GHQ, we are well aware how they operate, they have a proven dirty track record for the past 70 years.

The cancer GHQ doesn't want to lose control control of the country they hijacked, you talk about outcome, what has Pakistan become under their so called leadership? Disremembered east dominion, lost Kashmir, cowered away when facsist India crossed the so called 'red line..' instead of putting all their ducks in a row, they colluded with the US to do a regime change and they brought in their Mafia PDM and sent the country back into downward spiral.. to meet certain death... Pakistan is now on the brink, at least they can give themselves medals defeating Pakistan..

Your amongst a dwindling niche supporting these Mir Jaffars, your peers here and many memebers here who are military enthusiasts who favour the army more than the populace, know the difference between right and wrong, thats what seperates patriots amongst traitors. Your holy cow generals comitted high treason, there's no going back on that, they violated the constitution, and they have to pay a heavy price!

 

[Olympus81]

One of the member raised a pertinent question, what happens if Imran Khan becomes a PM and would have to work with Asim Munir or subsequent Chiefs at Lt Gen level. What would be the relationship be like?

Well the PM should understand that there is no way in hell he should be leaning towards the Generals for any political favours or any such thing.

As for the Generals, they should drill it in their heads that a hybrid regime is impossible. Stay within the limits of prescribed constitutional role and only focus on military matters. In addition, work towards withdrawing their roles from all non military matters.

A strictly professional relationship.

 

[Black.Mamba]

‏انہیں قائداعظم کے گھر جناح ہاؤس کی بہت فکر ہے لیکن قائداعظم کے پاکستان کی کوئی فکر نہیں۔​

 

[Ali_Baba]

One of the member raised a pertinent question, what happens if Imran Khan becomes a PM and would have to work with Asim Munir or subsequent Chiefs at Lt Gen level. What would be the relationship be like?

Well the PM should understand that there is no way in hell he should be leaning towards the Generals for any political favours or any such thing.

As for the Generals, they should drill it in their heads that a hybrid regime is impossible. Stay within the limits of prescribed constitutional role and only focus on military matters. In addition, work towards withdrawing their roles from all non military matters.

A strictly professional relationship.

Imran Khan would have to immediately denotify both the current sitting Army Chief, ISI Cheif and also Dirty Harry otherwise his credibility will be zero. He will then need to ensuure that they legally held to account for their actions. Also, then he will have to move the entire hieararcy of the Army to be under the MOD and defence minister. After which, he will need to stop the Army's property enterprise - thereby allowing private enterprise to fill that space. Nationalise all Pakistani Armed owned businesses and then sell them to private industry and investors.

The whole ecosystem of being given land on retirement has to be stopped. Pakistan is there to be carved up and given over to generals - period.

I can go on and write a long list - but it has all been said before - but there can be no "going back to the old order". There needs to be fundamental and structural change in the future to make sure Pakistan Army leadership can never destablise Pakistan again for its own self centred economic and political interests, by making sure the Pakistan Army has "no economic or political interests by taking those interests off the table.."

The Pakistan Army will not on its own give up its assets and its controls - it needs to be taken from them and then a strong constitutional framework of accountability has to be put on the army to make sure this sh*t cannot happen again.

The people of Pakistan must reign supreme over Pakistan, and not the Pakistan Army...

Also, the return of proceeds from these assets then should be used to help pay down the national debt..