no one will give you technology and even if they will it will help you only manufacter in the country you need to develop alone
KSA & UAE - Submarine Options
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Money gives you...
ok so you will manufacter its alone you will need every time to buy technology you need your own people to develop things like in other countries
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Other country did not build their things alone either... they took from others, bough from others, reversed engineered from others etc... If you want to go back to the source, the one who created the base for almost all modern equipment are the German under the Nazis... and then the soviet and Western countries took/stolen from the the nazis and made their own, upgrated it and so on till today...
One of The most importante thing is to get the technology and then build the infrastructure.
ok lets see what they can do
india get tot all the time and i dont see they are so advanced
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What's the relation btw india and KSA/UAE???
they need joint venture with leading companies in the world to go forword they can also hierd engeenirs from the west to do the work for them
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Whatever, it's not like they gonna Tot on submarine, they just gonna buy few, if they need it. But neither KSA neither UAE gonna buy submarines anysoon...
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On KSA I cannot comment.
On the UAE - best if you didn't comment. You are good poster, I wouldn't want you to be embarrassed a couple of months down the road.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but UAE has a "project" to buy, btw wanting, testing, and then buying you can have 7-10 years bf doing so. Maybe in the near future, but as for today,I don't think they will buy any.
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It's funny when people tell me what the UAE is going to do.
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If that made you laugh, then hope you enjoyed it.
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@Khafee great question you ask in this thread... what is most important is an integerated defence architecture/doctorine... platforms follow after that...
I do strongly believe your road goes through PNS and of course the other way round. Comparetively, only naval force going through transformation is PNS... dig in and see how powerful this force is becoming.
I know for fact that your country wants to be independent ...joint venture with PNS will do wonders ...also on unspoken platforms.
But first and far most is the doctorine....
What is it for UAE? For PNS is total dominace in the coming decade...full spectrum that is.
I do strongly believe your road goes through PNS and of course the other way round. Comparetively, only naval force going through transformation is PNS... dig in and see how powerful this force is becoming.
I know for fact that your country wants to be independent ...joint venture with PNS will do wonders ...also on unspoken platforms.
But first and far most is the doctorine....
What is it for UAE? For PNS is total dominace in the coming decade...full spectrum that is.
i wonder from what country uae import the engeenirs from europe or they are local?
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SSK Attack submarines are very dangerous for any warship including Aircraft carriers..if my enemy have subs and carry some missiles with out nuckler cap it's usless and realy waste of money and lives
let we say the enemy have sub's with out nuckler cap what can he do to you
and can his sub's pass this
Sweden's Super Stealth Submarines Are So Lethal They 'Sank' a U.S. Aircraft Carrier
How was the Gotland able to evade the Reagan’s elaborate antisubmarine defenses involving multiple ships and aircraft employing a multitude of sensors? And even more importantly, how was a relatively cheap submarine costing around $100 million—roughly the cost of a single F-35 stealth fighter today—able to accomplish that?
However, the two-hundred-foot-long Swedish Gotland-class submarines, introduced in 1996, were the first to employ an Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system—in this case, the Stirling engine. A Stirling engine charges the submarine’s seventy-five-kilowatt battery using liquid oxygen.
With the Stirling, a Gotland-class submarine can remain undersea for up to two weeks sustaining an average speed of six miles per hour—or it can expend its battery power to surge up to twenty-three miles per hour. A conventional diesel engine is used for operation on the surface or while employing the snorkel. The Stirling-powered Gotland runs more quietly than even a nuclear-powered sub, which must employ noise-producing coolant pumps in their reactors.
The Gotland class does possess many other features that make it adept at evading detection. It mounts twenty-seven electromagnets designed to counteract its magnetic signature to Magnetic Anomaly Detectors. Its hull benefits from sonar-resistant coatings, while the tower is made of radar-absorbent materials. Machinery on the interior is coated with rubber acoustic-deadening buffers to minimize detectability by sonar. The Gotland is also exceedingly maneuverable thanks to the combined six maneuvering surfaces on its X-shaped rudder and sail, allowing it to operate close to the sea floor and pull off tight turns.
Because the stealthy boat proved the ultimate challenge to U.S. antisubmarine ships in international exercises, the U.S. Navy leased the Gotland and its crew for two entire years to conduct antisubmarine exercises. The results convinced the U.S. Navy its undersea sensors simply were not up to dealing with the stealthy AIP boats.
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...h-submarines-are-so-lethal-they-sank-us-18383
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