Khilafah in simple words

[R2D2]

the opening scenes of Lawrence of Arabia , a Turkish monoplane is shown bombing and staffing the Arabian Bedouin rebels.

Good research

 

[Irfan Baloch]

This guy surely love ottomans



The irony . Also lawrence of arabia is a very important figure which many people overlook . He is one of the main factors in shaping the ME of today .

very true, that guy on his own decided the future bloodshed for centuries to come and also played his part in the occupation of Hijaz by the Saudi tribe

 

[Jaggu]

The golden rule (that what you apply on others should accepted vice versa) should apply , isnt it?

The Golden rule is simple yet so profound. It applies not only on individual level but international level. It is the essence of what we call Insaaniyat/humanity.

 

[R2D2]

so what was your point here ?

very true, that guy on his own decided the future bloodshed for centuries to come and also played his part in the occupation of Hijaz by the Saudi tribe

What part did Lawrence play in occupation of hijaz by saudis, there was Sherif of Makkah at the time in control of hejaz

 

[Cherokee]

very true, that guy on his own decided the future bloodshed for centuries to come and also played his part in the occupation of Hijaz by the Saudi tribe

Yes , he ( as a rep of British empire) is one of the reasons mecca and medina are with sauds , no matter how much people suger coat it or write great war ballads .

 

[R2D2]

so what was your point here ?

Slip of the tongue

 

[Cherokee]

What part did Lawrence play in occupation of hijaz by saudis, there was Sherif of Makkah at the time in control of hejaz

Read and research . If not for him saudi irregulars would have gone for frontal assault on well fortified ottoman troops in medina , that would have decimated them forever . And that is just one accomplishment of this man . The list is long .

 

[R2D2]

Yes , he ( as a rep of British empire) is one of the reasons mecca and medina are with sauds , no matter how much people suger coat it or write great war ballads .

U are forgetting that Sharif of Makkah was in league with british, British gave him Hejaz, Iraq and Jordan to his sons, they were booted from Hejaz and Iraq. The Saudis had nothing to do with the British. they removed the british stooge Sharif Hussain of Makkah

 

[Cherokee]

U are forgetting that Sharif of Makkah was in league with british, British gave him Hejaz, Iraq and Jordan to his sons, they were booted from Hejaz and Iraq. The Saudis had nothing to do with the British. they removed the british stooge Sharif Hussain of Makkah

Arabs were always in league with the empire . Then British , now american .

 

[Irfan Baloch]

What part did Lawrence play in occupation of hijaz by saudis, there was Sherif of Makkah at the time in control of hejaz

yes the Sherifs of Mecca were the chieftains of Hijaz. Lawrence set things in motion by organizing and funding the Arab rebellion that led to the breakup of the Ottoman empire.

I understand that the plot was not strictly an Indian 80s movie where Amjad Khan or Amresh Puri despite being a super villain.. and having hordes of henchmen, decides its a good idea to plant bombs or kill the hero/ heroine's parents himself. (in order to help his identification in the end and his retribution at the hands of the hero)

 

[R2D2]

Arabs were always in league with the empire . Then British , now american .

you are right in some respects. but the saudis gave refuge to Indian muslim freedom fighters against the british. Maulana Obaidullah Sindhi who was among those who formed Azad Hind Govt in Kabul was forced by the british after the Third Afghan War to move from Kabul. He went to Arabia.

 

[Cherokee]

you are right in some respects. but the saudis gave refuge to Indian muslim freedom fighters against the british. Maulana Obaidullah Sindhi who was among those who formed Azad Hind Govt in Kabul was forced by the british after the Third Afghan War to move from Kabul. He went to Arabia.

this statement is tangential to the point of discussion but i agree in many ways SA and its supporting countries are a greater allay to India in ME then anyone else even today .

 

[R2D2]

Nationalism

Islam forbids nationalism of any kind and in his last speech the Prophet SAW stressed this point.

"An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over an Arab; a white has no superiority over a black, nor does a black have any superiority over a white; [none have superiority over another] except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood."

There is no Arab nationalism, Turkish Nationalism, Iranian Nationalism or Pakistani Nationalism in Islam.

Only he who fears Allah i.e. Mutaqqi is given preference.

The Caliphs asked the Arabs soldiers to intermarry among the local people after the conquests which resulted in cementing the relations between different peoples in Africa, Arabia, Turkey, Central Asia and India.

The enemies of Islam use their secret agents to make the tribes and sects fight with each other. Lawrence of Arabia is a case in point who raised the standard of Arab Nationalism.

Even now, the tribes in Afghanistan ie. Pashtuns, Tajiks, Uzbeks and Shias are being made to fight with each other. The sects in Pakistan and Iraq are fighting with each other. the Arabs and Berbers are fighting in Algeria. They have created a similar situation in Sudan among nomadic and agricultural people.

All of these nationalism are wrong and not allowed in Islam.

The Prophet SAW said

"O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me, and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O people, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Quran and my example, the Sunnah, and if you follow these you will never go astray."

 

[R2D2]

@Contrarian l I've been reading Hindu texts for quite a while, just like i read the Torah, the Bible even the Book of Morman.

Biggest give away of these Islamofascist, pseudo Islamic thugs is that they will ALWAYS refer to the Books of Ahadi'th, which were compiled much after the Prophet PUBH has passed.

Quran was revealed completely in 23 years and is the only authentic source of law. If Sharia is sourced from the Quran instead of the Ahadith, it would look much like modern democracy. Islamofascists take Ahadith as the main source of Sharia as it allows them the grey areas to establish the tyranny they so desire.

7 days before His passing the Prophet PBUH, stated 'Today your system/way of life has been completed and so has Allah's blessings been bestowed completely'.

No book of Hadith existed at that time. Islamofascists can go and smoke bong as their apartheid can simply be rejected for the source of their lawd wasn't ratified by the Prophet PBUH, which makes it non binding!

The first constitution of the Islamic state was written based on the Quran not the Ahadith.

@Hyperion @Armstrong

In his last sermon the Prophet SAW said

"O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me, and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O people, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Quran and my example, the Sunnah, and if you follow these you will never go astray."

So, you don't follow the Sunnah which is his Practice and Hadith.

 

[Kompromat]

Nationalism

Islam forbids nationalism of any kind and in his last speech the Prophet SAW stressed this point.

"An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over an Arab; a white has no superiority over a black, nor does a black have any superiority over a white; [none have superiority over another] except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood."

There is no Arab nationalism, Turkish Nationalism, Iranian Nationalism or Pakistani Nationalism in Islam.

Only he who fears Allah i.e. Mutaqqi is given preference.

The Caliphs asked the Arabs soldiers to intermarry among the local people after the conquests which resulted in cementing the relations between different peoples in Africa, Arabia, Turkey, Central Asia and India.

The enemies of Islam use their secret agents to make the tribes and sects fight with each other. Lawrence of Arabia is a case in point who raised the standard of Arab Nationalism.

Even now, the tribes in Afghanistan ie. Pashtuns, Tajiks, Uzbeks and Shias are being made to fight with each other. The sects in Pakistan and Iraq are fighting with each other. the Arabs and Berbers are fighting in Algeria. They have created a similar situation in Sudan among nomadic and agricultural people.

All of these nationalism are wrong and not allowed in Islam.

The Prophet SAW said

"O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me, and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O people, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Quran and my example, the Sunnah, and if you follow these you will never go astray."

If Islam forbids nationalism than why did the Prophet SAW said this? - Please bring a specific answer for i'm getting board of your copy pasting and dogmatic narrative which clearly depicts how narrow minded of a human you really are.

6.When Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was migrating from Makkah and going to Madinah, he turned his face towards Makkah and said, “ Makkah I love you and I know you love me but your people have forced me to leave you”.