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Kerala: Sunni leader says 'women only fit to deliver children'; calls gender equality 'un-Islamic'

that doesn't change the fact that he still has a huge devout fan following which was apparent recently when he launched the new Kerala Muslim jamat and is quite influential.

And many other Keralite Muslims support the chopping hands of 'blasphemers' and killing of 'progressive' clerics.
 
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Secular India under liberal congress rule has been persecuting muslims for 60+ years.
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And the quickly Muslims understand it , the better it is for them as well as India
 
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Debate on gender equality on campuses hurts: Principals
Even principals are against this?
@Aminroop @Marxist @nair

Did you read the article??? :coffee:
It's about moral policing- just in case you missed it.

indeed it is about "moral policing", no different from what happens in colleges in mangalore and madras or any other place... it is not as if the 600-acre "lovely professional university" in jalandhar has sophisticated progressive discussions and keeps sending student delegations to north korea, venezuela, syria and russia.

and where progressive discussions and progressive political participation in indian colleges/universities does take place ( like in jnu ), ranjeet bhai and his friends here are the first ones to make negative posts about that. :)

aminroop has before spoken of "moral policing" during her college days, including those done by shiv sena... below is from the website of a bangalore college ( CHRIST JUNIOR COLLEGE, Bengaluru | Home - Contact Us - Address )... i got this link by googling "bangalore dress code college"...
Girls must wear salwar kameez with dupatta (stoles, short kurthas, colouring of hair, piercing of body should be avoided).

We do not welcome Jeans and T- Shirts or their look alike. Students violating dress code will not be allowed to attend the class and will have to lose attendance for the day.
Students are forbidden from organizing and attending any meeting within the college
Students must not join any club or society or make any engagement that would interfere with their studies without the prior permission of the Principal.
Active participation in politics is not compatible with the academic life of students and, as such, students are not expected to indulge in public activities that are of a political nature.

really?? so this college imposes anti-freedom measures and then commands students not to organize or join progressive politics??

and the above quotes were just a mild description of the happenings.

this is a pan-india problem and will be rectified only if the sfi movement ( associated with the communist movement ) is allowed to take over the campuses and convince the reactionary principals and teachers of their wrongs.

this is ridiculous... one of the duties of a education system is to set people free from oppression, whether family oppression or religious oppression or general social oppression, and here we have teachers being the oppressors... this has come because the indian "education system" ( except for medicine ) was never meant to be for education but for producing bureaucrats, wage-slaves and all other kinds which would keep the capitalist establishment going.

the way these "moral policing" principals and teachers speak, one would think their "sanskari" ideas ( like separating male and female students ) would bring massive and sublime intelligence to indian students but the reality ( no invention from India in 60 years: n. r. narayana murthy ).

Coming soon to a madrassa near you lol
@jamahir
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oh, india has the baap ( or rather the ma ) of such a field - the kashmiri burqa group "dukhtaraan e millat" and its top burqa, asyia andrabi...

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she can be called a agent of the indian establishment, encouraged by them to use "religion" to temper the independence tendencies of some kashmiri masses.

whenever she has been arrested on indirect order by the central government, it was because of "raising separatist slogans and doing anti-national activity" and not for her real activity of destroying kashmiri society by doing anti-human things like threatening to throw acid on ladies who didn't wear top-to-toe burqa like she does or for actually throwing black ink on ladies for not covering up or for raiding internet parlors ( similar to what the jamia hafsa burqas of lal masjid did )... the first kashmiri all-girl band, pragaash, was forced by close down because of the reactionary social changes brought by this bitch.

from ( Rock band girls go into hiding after social boycott threat - The Hindu )...
More than fighting Indian troops and the police, the Jamiatul Mujahideen is known for its anti-media strikes, including banning publications and kidnapping theatre and television talents. Police records show that the group was responsible for the assassination of the former Joint Director of Information, Syed Ghulam Nabi, human rights activist Hridhay Nath Wanchoo and a couple of television artists.

her group was founded in 1982... if this had been saddam's iraq or gaddafi's libya, she would have been put before a firing squad long back... but sadly, this is a country whose establishment allows people like her and pramod muthalik ( of sri ram sena ) to carry out their anti-human terrorist activities, only because these people don't really threaten to bring a socialist/progressive system to india, and when the intellectuals, the progressive activists, progressive movements and concerned citizens raise their voice and protest the presence of extremism in the country, they are told to go to pakistan. :lol:

Well, to be honest, almost all middle eastern/Muslim countries think the same.:D

so does much of india... please read above :)

Guys!! Cool down.

He is the spiritual leader of millions of Sunni's, and has been chosen by the sunni ulema of Kerala.

He has every right to declare how sunni women should be treated and us being a democratic society have no right to dictate to our "minority" how to lead thier life. .come to think of it. .What he says is more or less true when it comes to his section of women and how their men consider their leaders guidance.

What the maulana doesn't have a right on is to speak about anybody else other than sunni women.

@jamahir

no, he is only the leader of reactionaries and fools and of those forced by families to follow... i don't care two hoots for him and his likes.

he doesn't have right to impose his anti-human views on his daughter, let alone on other sunni ( or shia ) females in kerala or india.

as for ulema, islam has no priest system so these mullahs have no religious validity... we must remember that the current imam of all muslims, muammar gaddafi, was a adept of the quran ( and had rejected the supremeness of the hadees works ) and in the 80's, on live tv, defeated a bunch of stupid mullahs in a test of the mullahs' knowledge of quran... muammar was a fantastic speaker, a man of great wisdom and common sense, so could counter the ridiculous mullahic interpretation of quran... india's muslim community of today has no such man, not even me. :D

but anytime on this forum, islam and quran are mentioned, it is necessary to present muammar gaddafi as a exemplar interpreter and presenter of quran... it cannot be otherwise.
 
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Somebody will replace him soon.lol

jamahir for "imam of indian muslims"... correction, south asian muslims. :tup: :tup: :tup: ;) :D

There is NO such thing as equal rights. Men and women r different both psychologically and physiologically.

yes there is difference in physiology and psychology and it would be unnatural to consider male and female as the same and turning females into quasi-males by pushing them into gyms to get size-zeor figures and six-pack abs and pushing them into athletic dance forms.

but it is against humanity and islam to bring difference in rights and freedoms.

this libyan lady ( A Libyan Girl's Message to Obama & NATO on Their Aggression on Libya.flv - YouTube ) should be taken as example of a citizen of a society that combined true islam with modern socialism to provide rights to all.

nature balances towards socialist harmony... the mullah and the sanghi are against nature and since both these anti-nature things are two sides of the same capitalist/reactionary coin, they often combine forces ( There is nothing wrong in working with RSS: Jamaat Ulama-e-Hind - The Times of India ), you and i have discussed this before and must do so now despite your previous excusing that away saying that bd jamaatis are different from indian jamaatis, which they are not and which i have refuted before by presenting their origin here ( 9-11 attack was also funded from India!!! | Page 4 ).

I find it absolutely ludicrous that women r now pushed into army combat units under this western notion of "women's rights"

a modern socialism society like the libyan jamahiriya that forwarded the true aspects of the quran had since its beginning encouraged its female citizens to take general military training not only as part of the citizen duty to defend their socialist society but also as a means to rid away the shackles of burqa/seclusion oppression that had become part of life under the regime of the previous government of the nato puppet, the king idris.

it is not for nothing that libyan female citizens loved muammar and the jamahiriya system... it brought them freedom in a way denied to most of south asian female denizens...

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^^^ she is probably saying "allah, muammar, libya bas", the slogan that became famous in 2011 and was adopted by the syrians as "allah, sooriya, bashar wa bas".

where they r raped and abused by their "progressive" male colleagues not to mention the obvious consequence of being taken as a prisoner of war. Western "women's rights" only reduced women to mere objects for exploitation.

1. the word "progressive" is to be used when the context is socialism or at least socialistic, and certainly not to be used for a capitalist-crusader-imperialist military like the usa army.

2. why restrict yourself to sexual abuse of female soldiers in usa army and why not mention the gay environment there??

3. why don't you mention the rapes/tortures done by the nato-supported ntc and fsa mullahs/terrorists against the female citizens of libya and syria??

4. why don't you mention the rape of male students in madarssas by the mullahs there??

5. traditional south asian culture, from which you derive your ideology from, sees the female merely as means of increasing population and not as a person with rights and desires.

U r showing your liberal secular upbriging by such post. Slapping an old man for espousing his views is perfectly in line with manners of BD liberals.

@BDforever suggested slapping this old mullah but i recommend that the supreme court hang him or better, let a people's committee execute him by firing squad.

In a Democracy the Majority makes the Rules and the Opposing Minority HAS to follow them.

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So if you are in India, better learn to listen to the Majority as Democracy dictates.

then that is not democracy at all... it is dictatorship, majoritarian dictatorship... anti-democracy.

It Exist because the MAJORITY has graciously decided to grant that space to religious minorities. So don't forget to say Thank You.

with the not-so-occasional riot in between. :)

But even then the space allocated to them is only within the CONFINES of the Constitution, not beyond.

That too is TEMPORARY till Uniform Civil Code is implemented.

let me say this again - the ucc when presented in its first form by the progressives, as anything called "uniform civil code" should be, will be opposed tooth and nail by the sangh. :D
 
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I agree with him only when it has to do with feminists
lol you made me laugh by mentioning the most bigoted and thugish organisation suffered by the western world.
I was going to say that Shia ayatullahs are no better or different and they also pull out equally ridiculous and absurd fatwas from their turbans.
I was going to protest why the retarded fatwa has been narrowed down to our Majority sect but then again since it has come from self proclaimed organisation with the relevant prefix so I have no way to amend or object to the title.
 
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