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Same applies with Lollywood and GOP.
Buddy nobody here watches Lollywood..In fact bollywood is far more popular in Pakistan then Lollywood...Now you see that's the problem.You're not accepting that there is a problem.I presented a solution which you might like but the fact is you gotta accept the fact that yes there is a insurgency it would not go down whether PAK supports it or not ie all those people who're sick entired of GOI should be allowed to move to Pakistan (We should provide refugee if we have little bit of respect for Kashmiris..and then accept LOC as international border but also give us some favors such as proper agreements on water etc as we will completely drop Kashmir issue)
 
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Buddy nobody here watches Lollywood..In fact bollywood is far more popular in Pakistan then Lollywood...Now you see that's the problem.You're not accepting that there is a problem.I presented a solution which you might like but the fact is you gotta accept the fact that yes there is a insurgency it would not go down whether PAK supports it or not ie all those people who're sick entired of GOI should be allowed to move to Pakistan (We should provide refugee if we have little bit of respect for Kashmiris..and then accept LOC as international border but also give us some favors such as proper agreements on water etc).

I agree with you. As about Water, treaty is already there which has not been violated anytime.

P.S. - I was just mentioning that brain wash applies to both state.
 
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No, but if thousands of Pakistanis start flying Indian flag in Pakistan then you would have a comparable situation.

Just like thousands of Kashmiris are flying Pakistani flag and chanting Nanga bhookha Hindustan, jaan se pyaara Pakistan in direct defiance of 700,000 Indian Army thugs.

LOL.....Did you coin the phrase yourself.....Its effin hilarious....

On a serious note....I feel India is too nice to these traitors "jo jis thali mein khate hain usi mein chhed karte hain".....flying another nations flag in India other than in an embassy is reason enough to rip them up a new arshole....

Anyways.....what these people fail to understand is that this is democracy....not anarchy....Tomorrow everyones gonna want a seperate state for themselves....Its not mandir ka prasad that we hand out to every idiot that walks bye...
 
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Just like thousands of Kashmiris are flying Pakistani flag and chanting Nanga bhookha Hindustan, jaan se pyaara Pakistan in direct defiance of 700,000 Indian Army thugs.

Lol, like Pakistan really give a better alternative to the poor Kashmiris in stark contrast to "nunga bhooka Hindustan"! Unfortunately, Pakistan of today is very different from secular Jinnah's vision. Hell yeah, a society where fundamentalism in making alarming inroads is a much better option than a society which allows to vent your frustration by the way of elections and anti-establishment rallies!
Btw how many Kashmiris do YOU really know, and I mean personally? I happen to know quite a few. So please do enjoy whatever aberrations of reality that you may harbor, all by yourself.
As regards to the article by A Roy, she's an extreme leftie moron (sympathizing with even the naxals)! A couple of books later she thinks the world of herself, but then she has her voice as guaranteed by- note this- the secular Indian Constitution. Surprised? Wonder what happens to such renegades in other countries?!!
 
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Well, i think we can't blame average Indian..It's the bollywood and Indian GOVT propoganda that has brainwashed them.In fact frankly i think Pakistan should give up on Kashmir and offer citizenship to all those Kashmiris who want to live in Pakistan (Provided Indians agree to allow mass migration) and accept LOC as international border.I am sure there will be some goodwill from Indians too if we accept LOC as international border so we could also finally setup proper water agreements and other things.

Thats a noble thought.....I second your view as a possible solution....

Thought Patriot....dude....the brainwashing bit....was it really necessary?? Do you really think Indians break out into a song everytime there is a serious moment in their lives???
Cmon Ill give you that Bollywood is entertaining....but the psychological effects of Bollywood can only be observed in the demented!!!!
 
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Thank god I got known how much hatred Pakistani Govt has filed in normal citizens of Pakistan. I don't need to quote some abusive words used by Indians at the time of Mumbai attacks as this will make this thread useless and will only decrease the prestige of both nations.

That was the chant by Kashmiris.

Read the article again. I guess you missed it.
 
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LOL.....Did you coin the phrase yourself.....Its effin hilarious....

On a serious note....I feel India is too nice to these traitors "jo jis thali mein khate hain usi mein chhed karte hain".....flying another nations flag in India other than in an embassy is reason enough to rip them up a new arshole....

They were forced to join India against their will.

I know the Indian brainwash media loves to rewrite history, but the Kashmiris know exactly what happened in 1947.

Tomorrow everyones gonna want a seperate state for themselves

Thank you.
At least you are honest enough to admit the real reason why India opposes the Kashmiri struggle for freedom.
 
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Lol, like Pakistan really give a better alternative to the poor Kashmiris in stark contrast to "nunga bhooka Hindustan"! Unfortunately, Pakistan of today is very different from secular Jinnah's vision. Hell yeah, a society where fundamentalism in making alarming inroads is a much better option than a society which allows to vent your frustration by the way of elections and anti-establishment rallies!
Btw how many Kashmiris do YOU really know, and I mean personally? I happen to know quite a few. So please do enjoy whatever aberrations of reality that you may harbor, all by yourself.
As regards to the article by A Roy, she's an extreme leftie moron (sympathizing with even the naxals)! A couple of books later she thinks the world of herself, but then she has her voice as guaranteed by- note this- the secular Indian Constitution. Surprised? Wonder what happens to such renegades in other countries?!!

Most countries, including Pakistan, have free media with dissenting views, so get off your high horse.

As regards religious fundamentalism, I already posted a few gems of Indian religious 'tolerance' in that other thread where you dared me. And you have the gall to show your face again with that canard! :rofl:
 
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Buddy nobody here watches Lollywood..In fact bollywood is far more popular in Pakistan then Lollywood...Now you see that's the problem.You're not accepting that there is a problem.I presented a solution which you might like but the fact is you gotta accept the fact that yes there is a insurgency it would not go down whether PAK supports it or not ie all those people who're sick entired of GOI should be allowed to move to Pakistan (We should provide refugee if we have little bit of respect for Kashmiris..and then accept LOC as international border but also give us some favors such as proper agreements on water etc as we will completely drop Kashmir issue)

Wrong solution.

Why should brave Kashmiris have to give up their ancestral homes and livelihood and reward Indian thuggery?

And if you think India will stop blackmailing us over water, you are too trusting.
 
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It is a principled response to people who explicitly ask for our help by name

Nanga bhookha Hindustan, jaan se pyaara Pakistan

thats hilarious :cheesy:

so.. IF baloch people (even some of them) ask for Indian help we can also come and help them... can we? (as I see...recent reports, some Baloch leaders are openly asking for india help)..After all we are also obliged to respond for people who explicitly ask for our help
 
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thats hilarious :cheesy:

so.. IF baloch people (even some of them) ask for Indian help we can also come and help them... can we? (as I see...recent reports, some Baloch leaders are openly asking for india help)..After all we are also obliged to respond for people who explicitly ask for our help

If thousands of ordinary Balochis defy a stationed army of 700,000 thugs and ask for Indian help, then you would have a comparable case.

If a couple of fatcats living in London ask for it, umm, I doubt it!
 
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They were forced to join India against their will.

I know the Indian brainwash media loves to rewrite history, but the Kashmiris know exactly what happened in 1947.



It depends who's perspective you look at it from......

If you want to talk about "forced".....I dont think an insurgency and unrest for the last 20 years was what the Kashmiri's wanted.....But militancy was forced upon the Kashmiri's by Pakistan....ever think of that??
I mean had there been no attack on Kashmir in '47 and the ascension to India had gone without interference from Pakistan.....maybe the Kashmiri's would have been blessed with better lives......maybe they wouldnt have to live under military rule....
Why was Kashmir not heavily militarized before the 80's??

Dont just blame us for the plight of the Kashmiri's....you sow the bad seeds and expect us to take blame for it.....and now when we try to uproot this same weed....you call it brutality.....Is Hypocrisy offered as a major in Pakistani schools?? Im starting to wonder.....
 
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If thousands of ordinary Balochis defy a stationed army of 700,000 thugs and ask for Indian help, then you would have a comparable case.

If a couple of fatcats living in London ask for it, umm, I doubt it!

See democracy at work here....our fatcats dont need to run off to London to save their lives and protest...our constitution gives them the right to do it right here in India
 
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Most countries, including Pakistan, have free media with dissenting views, so get off your high horse.

As regards religious fundamentalism, I already posted a few gems of Indian religious 'tolerance' in that other thread where you dared me. And you have the gall to show your face again with that canard! :rofl:

Are you seriously going to compare the level of journalism in Pakistan with India......cmon except on this forum I have never even heard of anyone calling Pakistani media as credible.....
Not to say we dont have some shitty news channels in India that spin conspiracy theories and rely on "wet dreams" to concoct stories.....but the professionalism in Media, the level of transparency in media....cannot even be equated with Pakistan....

Come back in 10 years and maybe we can have this discussion....

Just answer one question.....Can you print a news report critizing Islam in your country....or even write a story calling the Quaid a "Baniya Bastard".....???
I hardly think so....so what free media do you speak of sir?
 
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