Kashmir Issue - Choose a Mediator

[Fireurimagination]

Japan, Vietnam, US

Whole of Europe sans Russia

Whole of Europe got peace when Russians slaughtered Germans like crazy. Japan got peace when US fired couple of nukes down their throat. This is world's reality strength only respects strength, peace through superior firepower.

It was peace when one party subdued the other

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Japan, Vietnam, US

Whole of Europe sans Russia

Japan/Vietnam/US - They killed a lot of each other. The bloodthirst was met. Hence you find peace.

Whole of Europe got peace when Russians slaughtered Germans like crazy. Japan got peace when US fired couple of nukes down their throat. This is world's reality strength only respects strength, peace through superior firepower.

Bingo.

 

[Spectre]

Japan/Vietnam/US - They killed a lot of each other. The bloodthirst was met. Hence you find peace.


Bingo.

Oh I think we have fought three wars, in addition to bloody partition and decades of proxy wars, should be enough no?

 

[Post Colonnial]

So much arrogance is not good. Pakistan has a battle hardened army and airforce in addition to nukes.

Never ever underestimate the adversary. Best and most successful countries don't fight their enemies, they turn their enemies to friends.

ofcourse, arrogance is never good. Pakistani army however is NOT a battle hardened army. All they have done is go after ill-equipped provincial militia most of whom were their own making in the first place. All their wok has only been inside Paikistan; when they venture out they get thrashed. Their command structure is byzantine, their controls are personality driven and shambles of what it once was. Only the patriotic jingoist Pakistani will call them battle hardended or capable.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Won't call 1 Billion or nearby Hindus as wiped out. Logically they are 14% or so of Human Population.

Persians have been nearly wiped out, Jews have been nearly wiped out, Indians (Americans) have been nearly wiped out, Mayans have been wiped out.

The presence of a Billion does not negate the existence of another Billion who don't live as Hindus today. In any case, Hindus survived because they out fought and out lived their enemies. Not due to merciful nature of Xavier or Aurangzeb or Sikander Butshikan.

Oh I think we have fought three wars, in addition to bloody partition and decades of proxy wars, should be enough no?

None of them qualifies for wars. We have fought skirmishes. A few days, a month. These are nothing.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Oh I think we have fought three wars, in addition to bloody partition and decades of proxy wars, should be enough no?

No, take out the army, give Pakistanis a free hand to kill all Indians in Kashmir then probably it will be enough, in fact I'm not very sure that even that will be enough

 

[lightoftruth]

We even asked the UN office to pack their bags from their,we ain't no kids who need elders advice on solving some shit and everyone knows it thus noone is interested in getting insulted.

 

[Spectre]

The presence of a Billion does not negate the existence of another Billion who don't live as Hindus today. In any case, Hindus survived because they out fought and out lived their enemies. Not due to merciful nature of Xavier or Aurangzeb or Sikander Butshikan.


None of them qualifies for wars. We have fought skirmishes. A few days, a month. These are nothing.

Your logic then should apply equally to Christians and Muslims equally along with Hindus. All three of us have fought each other one way or another, never mind who is the aggressor and who is the victim.

What qualifies for War Indeed - How many deaths do we need? 1000 - 10,000 - 100,000 - 1,000,000 - 10,000,000

Pick a number and then factor in nukes and MAD

No, take out the army, give Pakistanis a free hand to kill all Indians in Kashmir then probably it will be enough, in fact I'm not very sure that even that will be enough

Every one on our side of Kashmir, Hindu - Muslim - Sikh is an Indian. Are you asking for depopulation of Kashmir?

We even asked the UN office to pack their bags from their,we ain't no kids who need elders advice on solving some shit and everyone knows it thus noone is interested in getting insulted.

Good Point.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Your logic then should apply equally to Christians and Muslims equally along with Hindus. All three of us have fought each other one way or another, never mind who is the aggressor and who is the victim.

What qualifies for War Indeed - How many deaths do we need? 1000 - 10,000 - 100,000 - 1,000,000 - 10,000,000

Pick a number and then factor in nukes and MAD

If you want to live fight, if you don't want to fight you don't deserve to live

Every one on our side of Kashmir, Hindu - Muslim - Sikh is an Indian. Are you asking for depopulation of Kashmir?

In fact I am suggesting fight for every Indian - Hindu, Muslim or Sikh

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Your logic then should apply equally to Christians and Muslims equally along with Hindus. All three of us have fought each other one way or another, never mind who is the aggressor and who is the victim.

What qualifies for War Indeed - How many deaths do we need? 1000 - 10,000 - 100,000 - 1,000,000 - 10,000,000

Pick a number and then factor in nukes and MAD

I, as a narrow minded bigot, am prepared to think primarily and only about Hindus, Sikhs, Jain, Parsis, Shia, Ahmedia, Buddhists welfare. On priority. I decide based on what's best for us(mentioned above). The rest are secondary. In Kashmir the lines are drawn. Anybody who wants to cross to the no man's land is welcome to do so. But he/she will be shred to pieces by both sides.

What qualifies for War Indeed - How many deaths do we need? 1000 - 10,000 - 100,000 - 1,000,000 - 10,000,000

Pick a number and then factor in nukes and MAD

Difficult to say.
At least in the scale of millions.

 

[Spectre]

I, as a narrow minded bigot is prepared to think primarily and only about Hindus, Sikhs, Jain, Parsis, Shia, Ahmedia, Buddhists welfare. On priority. I decide based on what's best for us(mentioned above). The rest are secondary. In Kashmir the lines are drawn. Anybody who wants to cross to the no man's land is welcome to do so. But he/she will be shred to pieces by both sides.

No arguments there, better answer would have been all Indians.

I, as a narrow minded bigot, am prepared to think primarily and only about Hindus, Sikhs, Jain, Parsis, Shia, Ahmedia, Buddhists welfare. On priority. I decide based on what's best for us(mentioned above). The rest are secondary. In Kashmir the lines are drawn. Anybody who wants to cross to the no man's land is welcome to do so. But he/she will be shred to pieces by both sides.


Difficult to say.
At least in the scale of millions.

I then wish for you to be very very wrong

 

[SarthakGanguly]

No arguments there, better answer would have been all Indians.

I am no diplomat sire. I am just being myself.

I then wish for you to be very very wrong

Human beings have the habit of not learning from other's mistakes. Humans learn from their own.

Otherwise major wars would not have happened all over the world.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Look at Pakistan even after losing half their country, a broken economy, fundamentalism, terrorism and what not all, they still want to have their way by hook or by crook.

 

[RanvirSena]

Kashmir is important but the biggest issue facing India is Bangladesh. This land of cockroaches is eating away at the Indian economy and needs to be destroyed. I suggest a joint effort between NATO, India and Pakistan to deal with them.

 

[Spectre]

I am no diplomat sire. I am just being myself.


Human beings have the habit of not learning from other's mistakes. Humans learn from their own.

Otherwise major wars would not have happened all over the world.

If only we learnt from our own mistakes my friend, if only. We have a very short collective memory as a society.

Kashmir is important but the biggest issue facing India is Bangladesh. This land of cockroaches is eating away at the Indian economy and needs to be destroyed. I suggest a joint effort between NATO, India and Pakistan to deal with them.

The ideology you stand for is vile, no better than maoists and naxalites.