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Karnataka hijab row.. Asaduddin Owaisi rants against Pakistan


No surprises from someone who wouldn’t dare say Allah Hu Akbar on live TV

That shit is worse than holding burning coal per the hadith quote in the video, that's like crashing a car and burning in it real time.

The African Americans were able to emancipate themselves mainly because there was a large, and growing section of whites that believed that the treatment of the African Americans was wrong and worked with them to pass laws.

In India, we have the total opposite. Hindu society is radicalized to the core and goes to any extent to justify the mistreatment of the Muslims and takes great pleasure in the suffering of the Muslims.

As you probably know, this won't end well for us.

I see a problem even on Facebook that while all this is going on if a pro-Pakistan article is posted and Hindu's mocking the Indian Muslim out of no-where come through and back them up. You guys really need to get the message across to a wider section of Indian Muslims to lay off the Cola they are drinking and see realty for what it is, before it's too late.
 
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that's a pretty one sided view of Bangladesh...completely devoid of the fact that minority but controlling western ruling elite had neglected the eastern population to the extent that when a bengali won the elections fair and square, treacherous traitors like bhutto and yahya refused to even call in the parliament session, what the hell did you expect the bengali Pakistanis to think except that the west really hates us and we have no choice to get independence...I mean, DUH! Had power been peacefully transferred, west and east Pakistan would still be together today, mujib would've never simply settled for Bangladesh if he was going to be the ruler over both east and west. would you settle for a suzuki mehran when you had the chance of owning a chevy impala? answer is obvious...face it, the western ruling minority elite gave the entire fiasco an ethnic trust
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@Bilal9 your thoughts good sir?

I really don't want to hijack the thread - this is not about Bangladesh. But since you asked - there was scope of compromise when Mujib won the popular mandate - majority of Pakistanis were Bengalis at that time, so popular mandate easily went to Mujib and he handily won position of PM fair and square.

However Yahya and Bhutto were power hungry and they were not ready to relinquish power so easily, hence Bhutto came up with "Udhar tum, Idhar hum" idea.

Mujib was even okay with self rule in East Pakistan, i.e. controlling economy, defence and major functions would be decided in Islamabad. But Yahya had already decided that this was going to be a bloody separation "hum is Haramzaad kaum ki nasl badl dunga". The rest is of course history and its greatest folly.

The game could have been played better (Ayub khan did so with Bengalis with many development items for East Pakistan, except for the fact that he finally dissolved parliament and started Military rule, which continues today). Pushing out Bengali politicos from Pakistan's top level govt. was not seen as fair by most Bengalis.

Ultimately - labelling Bengali Muslims in East Pakistan as "snakes". "traitors" and "Hindus" is a common excuse by some folks who do not understand these issues, one should realize that Indian Muslim league was formed in Calcutta by a majority of educated Bengali Muslims themselves headed by Suhrawardy, Sher-E-Bangla Fazlul Haque, the Nawab family of Dhaka etc. The first major convention of All India Muslim League was in Dhaka in a house (Rose Garden) that I have visited many times. How can one be a traitor to ones own cause?

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The degree of personal Islamic religiosity in Bangladesh today is simply not something to be questioned by Muslims in other countries, as that of Malaysia and Indonesia is also unquestionable by outsiders. I mean who decides who has "Adha Imaan"? Mortals or Allah?

People who question Bangladeshi resolve about Islam need only look at our society. There are more Hijaabis in Bangladesh today than ten years ago and these folks are doing it voluntarily - not because someone is forcing them to. That should tell you something.

People in this thread who are dumping on Bangladeshis are invariably Indian false-flaggers and want to drive a wedge between the warming relations between both countries by labeling us as "traitors".

Pakistan got split not because Bengali Muslims wanted to become Hindus, it did so because of other deeper philosophical chasms and divisions which are too numerous and deep to discuss in this thread and ones which we could not reach across and resolve between both wings. We can start with feudalism vs. egalitarianism as philosophies - but let's continue that elsewhere.

 
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Ok Owaisi Sahb.

I dont mind you or your fellow Muslim's Pakistan bashing as long as it ensures safety of your life, homes and property.

You are free to do. Many in Pakistan and outside Pakistan make livings by abusing Pakistan. You are welcome to the club.

Will this hatred get you gelled in Indian society? No it wont.
 
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I really don't want to hijack the thread - this is not about Bangladesh. But since you asked - there was scope of compromise when Mujib won the popular mandate - majority of Pakistanis were Bengalis at that time, so popular mandate easily went to Mujib and he handily won position of PM fair and square.

However Yahya and Bhutto were power hungry and they were not ready to relinquish power so easily, hence Bhutto came up with "Udhar tum, Idhar hum" idea.

Mujib was even okay with self rule in East Pakistan, i.e. controlling economy, defence and major functions would be decided in Islamabad. But Yahya had already decided that this was going to be a bloody separation "hum is Haramzaad kaum ki nasl badl dunga". The rest is of course history and its greatest folly.

The game could have been played better (Ayub khan did so with Bengalis with many development items for East Pakistan, except for the fact that he finally dissolved parliament and started Military rule, which continues today). Pushing out Bengali politicos from Pakistan's top level govt. was not seen as fair by most Bengalis.

Ultimately - labelling Bengali Muslims in East Pakistan as "snakes". "traitors" and "Hindus" is a common excuse by some folks who do not understand these issues, one should realize that Indian Muslim league was formed in Calcutta by a majority of educated Bengali Muslims themselves headed by Suhrawardy, Sher-E-Bangla Fazlul Haque, the Nawab family of Dhaka etc. How can one be a traitor to ones own cause?

The degree of personal Islamic religiosity in Bangladesh today is simply not something to be questioned by Muslims in other countries, as that of Malaysia and Indonesia is also unquestionable by outsiders. I mean who decides who has "Adha Imaan"? Mortals or Allah?

People who question Bangladeshi resolve about Islam need only look at our society. There are more Hijaabis in Bangladesh today than ten years ago and these folks are doing it voluntarily - not because someone is forcing them to. That should tell you something.

People in this thread who are dumping on Bangladeshis are invariably Indian false-flaggers and wan to to drive a wedge between the warming relations between both countries by labeling us as "traitors".

Pakistan got split not because Bengali Muslims wanted to become Hindus, it did so because of other deeper philosophical chasms and divisions which are too numerous and deep to discuss in this thread and ones which we could not reach across and resolve between both wings. We can start with feudalism vs. egalitarianism as philosophies - but let's continue that elsewhere.
agreed, its been 50 years, but Bangladeshis, 2 generations later, still own Pakistan's ideology as there own, they still consider it as their brainchild, I know...I have as many Bangladeshi friends (and very close ones) as I do Pakistani friends, and I have a lot of friends. I have yet to see a Bangladeshi who dislikes Pakistan, every single one owns Pakistan as their own. They Pakistani son in laws and daughter in laws, the bengali cultural identity has never been a blocker. Just sad what happened, wish we had an Imran Khan at that time...

Bro, where in the u.s. are you at anyway? I get a feeling I know you, you aren't in washington state are you?
 
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Pakistan refers to the parent country with several major ethnic groups (it was originally West Pakistan). Bangladesh (originally East Pakistan) is almost entirely Bengali in regard to ethnicity and language. It shares no border with Pakistan nor does it share any language or ethnic group. The separation of the two countries did not separate two identical groups of people like the examples named in the question. It separated two groups of people that already struggled to find commonalities with one another due to major differences in language and ethnicity in addition to a 1,000+ km physical distance between the two nations.

Retaining the name East Pakistan wouldn’t make much sense. In the Bengali language the “desh” ending means land so “Bangladesh” means land of the Bengalis. In Urdu and Farsi, “stan” means land, and Pak means pure, so Pakistan means land of the pure. When Bangladesh was a part of Pakistan having a name with Persian or Urdu roots made sense, but since it is almost entirely Bengali speaking now, a name that has roots in the mother tongue of 99% of Bengalis makes more sense.

The name Pakistan refers to the names (First/Last Alphabets) of the five northern regions of the British Raj: Punjab, Afghania, Kashmir, Sindh, and Baluchistan.[33]

The name of Bengalis or their land appears nowhere in there. EP was always considered an "exclave" by West Pakistani ruling elites, though it contributed more than 60% of export revenue. Therein lay the root of the problem. It gave Mujib enough ammo to start secession movement.


Even today - if you look at Wikipedia entry for Pakistan, there is no mention of Bengalis who were top Pakistani leaders or even any mention of East Pakistan as an entity.
 
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The name Pakistan refers to the names (First/Last Alphabets) of the five northern regions of the British Raj: Punjab, Afghania, Kashmir, Sindh, and Baluchistan.[33]

The name of Bengalis or their land appears nowhere in there. EP was always considered an "exclave" by West Pakistani ruling elites, though it contributed more than 60% of export revenue. Therein lay the root of the problem.


Even today - if you look at Wikipedia entry for Pakistan, there is no mention of Bengalis who were top Pakistani leaders or even any mention of East Pakistan as an entity.
west Pakistan's vadera class ruling elite of the time have a lot to answer for. anyways...back to topic of this asaduddin joker.
 
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agreed, its been 50 years, but Bangladeshis, 2 generations later, still own Pakistan's ideology as there own, they still consider it as their brainchild, I know...I have as many Bangladeshi friends (and very close ones) as I do Pakistani friends, and I have a lot of friends. I have yet to see a Bangladeshi who dislikes Pakistan, every single one owns Pakistan as their own. They Pakistani son in laws and daughter in laws, the bengali cultural identity has never been a blocker. Just sad what happened, wish we had an Imran Khan at that time...

Bro, where in the u.s. are you at anyway? I get a feeling I know you, you aren't in washington state are you?

No bhaisaab - I am in Los Angeles. I am proud to call many local Pakistani bhais and bhabis my close friends. :-)

You are absolutely right, there are many intermarriages between families of both countries where Islamic cultures are more or less identical.
 
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No bhaisaab - I am in Los Angeles. I am proud to call many local Pakistani bhais and bhabis my close friends. :-)
ok, so you didn't relocate to los angeles from the san francisco bay area by any chance did you? Cuz I have lived in the sfo bay area since I was a teenager and have had a ton of Bangladeshi friends over the decades there as well.
 
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The African Americans were able to emancipate themselves mainly because there was a large, and growing section of whites that believed that the treatment of the African Americans was wrong and worked with them to pass laws.

In India, we have the total opposite. Hindu society is radicalized to the core and goes to any extent to justify the mistreatment of the Muslims and takes great pleasure in the suffering of the Muslims.

As you probably know, this won't end well for us.
The problem with muslims is they dont assimilate into the larger society well...they place religion above the nation.
A common hindu doesnt perceive this hijab thing as people of one community trying to assert their rights..he perceives it as nuslims being adamant to flaunt their religious identity.
All that college said was not to wear head scarf in the class; those 6 muslim girls have done more harm to their community girls than good...this issue will become a pan india issue now.
No minority community can prosper by constantly antagonising the majority community.
I have never seen any girl wearing hijab in the classrooms..why this sudden change in some parts of india?
Muslims should also remember the atrocities committed by them against hindus not just in middle ages but alsp in the recent past..numerous bombings, terrorist attacks, genocide of kashmiri pandits , killing innocent hindus in riots , burning trains like godhra..the list goes on.
It is this attitude that united hindus...otherwise hindus were never united....they were divided on caste lines..muslims had a peaceful existence in india for a longtime even after them breaking india by shedding a lot of blood of hindus.
P.S:South karnataka where this hijab controversy flared up also had history of atrocities against hindus by tipu sultan...muslims in karnataka telangana and andhra have migrated to south india during muslim rule and have never really assimilated with hindu community here..they speak urdu even to this day..didnt adapt to local culture.
 
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The problem with muslims is they dont assimilate into the larger society well...they place religion above the nation.
A common hindu doesnt perceive this hijab thing as people of one community trying to assert their rights..he perceives it as nuslims being adamant to flaunt their religious identity.
All that college said was not to wear head scarf in the class; those 6 muslim girls have done more harm to their community girls than good...this issue will become a pan india issue now.
No minority community can prosper by constantly antagonising the majority community.
I have never seen any girl wearing hijab in the classrooms..why this sudden change in some parts of india?
Muslims should also remember the atrocities committed by them against hindus not just in middle ages but alsp in the recent past..numerous bombings, terrorist attacks, genocide of kashmiri pandits , killing innocent hindus in riots , burning trains like godhra..the list goes on.
It is this attitude that united hindus...otherwise hindus were never united....they were divided on caste lines..muslims had a peaceful existence in india for a longtime even after them breaking india by shedding a lot of blood of hindus.
P.S:South karnataka where this hijab controversy flared up also had history of atrocities against hindus by tipu sultan...muslims in karnataka telangana and andhra have migrated to south india during muslim rule and have never really assimilated with hindu community here..they speak urdu even to this day..didnt adapt to local culture.

As usual, the filth comes out of the woodwork to justify the bigotry of this depraved society and blame the victim.

I'm waiting for you to cut your janeu before lecturing others on what is acceptable and what is not.
 
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I reluctantly agree with what you have said, but there is important point that you should take note of and factor in your thoughts

The Indian Muslims have been subjected to numerous state sponsored pogroms that have absolutely brutalized the community.
nailed it.
 
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